2025 Offseason Season Thread Vol. 1

[marson]

Legit question: why is everyone so hung up on getting Durant? He could not take the Suns even to the playoff qualifier. “But he was hurt the final 7 games!” <— Some may argue. Well yes, but they were 4 games below .500 before he got hurt. What was the excuse then? If the Heat acquire a past his prime talent in Durant, then they will clearly have learned nothing after the Lowry debacle.

He’s not going to the Heat. It’s either the Wolves, Rockets, or Spurs, these teams have more competitive roster than Miami.

We all know Durant at this stage is not the bus driver.

[RexBoyWonder]

Man, I don’t know if I want to see Wiggins on this team after these last few months. He totally sucked, looked like he was in a coma half the time and then bailed as soon as the season ended. He was a disaster.

WHO COULDV'E SEEN IT IN ADVANCE THOUGH

[RexBoyWonder]

Lowkey really curious to see how the front office is going to try to spin this offseason.

There's no way they'll just come out say "We **** up so bad these last few years so now we're totally stuck and have no moves to make so we're running it back despite just having a terrible year with this exact roster".


What can they really say to keep the casuals excited?! I can't even imagine....

[marson]

Lowkey really curious to see how the front office is going to try to spin this offseason.

There's no way they'll just come out say "We **** up so bad these last few years so now we're totally stuck and have no moves to make so we're running it back despite just having a terrible year with this exact roster".


What can they really say to keep the casuals excited?! I can't even imagine....

We’ve been in a similar situation before during the Whiteside-Dragic era, just waiting for the right player who truly wants to be here.

The real question is when that time will come, in 3 or 4 years? Who knows. But based on our history, a top-tier player (a 1A) will eventually sign/traded here.

Need to be patient and let the process unfold. Pat’s mind is still sharp for someone who’s 80. I can see him staying on for another five years if he chooses to.

[HeatFanLifer]

Lowkey really curious to see how the front office is going to try to spin this offseason.

There's no way they'll just come out say "We **** up so bad these last few years so now we're totally stuck and have no moves to make so we're running it back despite just having a terrible year with this exact roster".


What can they really say to keep the casuals excited?! I can't even imagine....

There’s been a complete lack of a coherent strategy since the Lowry signing. Some examples:
1) Re-signing Drob to a massive deal despite the fact that the previous season he regressed and disappeared in the playoffs.
2) Let Vincent/Strus leave, but later traded for Rozier and gave up a first too.
3) Pinning a lot of franchise hopes on a Dipo recovery after severe injury.
4) Not trading Butler in the 2024 offseason when he was out for the playoffs the season prior.
5) Desperation trade for Wiggins after realizing Butler was not going to yield on getting one last massive paycheck (though granted, I think Butler fading in the playoffs showed the Heat made the right call not extending him.)


Mitchell, Jovic, and Ware could end up being good additions, but it’s far too early to tell and none of them are going to be that player the Heat need to push the team to the next level. Riley really shoukd hold his advisors accountable, the Heat have dug themselves into a pretty deep hole.

[NightWatch]

which of these guard would help the Heat or none of them? Jrue Holiday, Lonzo Ball, Chris Paul

[DayofMourning]

Spoiler:

There are many ways to build a successful team. Yes, drafting a star often is the way, but it’s not the only way.

Indians are in the Finals because they took risks. They traded Sabonis for Haliburton, and they traded for Siakam. They also traded Brogdon and got Nesmith as part of that deal in a throw in. A lot of their guys have been home grown draftees in Turner, Nembhard, Sheppard, Mathurin etc. None of those guys are stars.

Risk is probably what you could put it down to for all 4 conference finalists when you think about it. OKC traded a prime PG for a treasure trove, absolutely fluked SGA becoming as good as he has, and then drafted incredibly well. They also stunk it up for years in a ‘Process’ style rebuild. New York nailed the Brunson FA signing and he went from solid starter to star. They then took a big risk in all 3 deals involving Anunoby, Towns and Bridges. Minnesota took a risk sending multiple firsts for Gobert, and then dealing Towns for Randle and better depth.


Does anyone really feel like Indiana are worlds better than us? We can be right back in the hunt in the East, and it won’t take much. We just gotta either take some risks or draft well and have a little luck.

Both teams in the Finals traded their top players for unproven talent. Now theyre reaping the rewards.

Sabonis for Hali would be similar to Bam for Harper. Hali worked out. Harper may too.

Its all a gamble on talent reaching its peak. Sometimes that can happen with the home team. Others max out better elsewhere in a situation that fits them.

I believe Ive seen enough of our top 2 guys to understand their limitations. They need a top 10 guy. Pretty hard to add those guys, ever.

Might make sense to hit the reset. Id be surprised if Pat ever did that.

However, even he can see the writing on the wall with our current leaders.

Sold!! Can you make this happen DoM?

Ive been working on the details with both teams. Should be THE headline in a few weeks.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Legit question: why is everyone so hung up on getting Durant? He could not take the Suns even to the playoff qualifier. “But he was hurt the final 7 games!” <— Some may argue. Well yes, but they were 4 games below .500 before he got hurt. What was the excuse then? If the Heat acquire a past his prime talent in Durant, then they will clearly have learned nothing after the Lowry debacle.

Suns were 33-29 when KD played this year, 3-17 when he didn’t. When KD and Booker played without Beal the Suns had a win rate comparable to the elites in the league. With KD in the court and Booker/Beal off the Suns had a +9 net rating, if you filter it down to games they all 3 actually played in its +22. Those are elite numbers.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Legit question: why is everyone so hung up on getting Durant? He could not take the Suns even to the playoff qualifier. “But he was hurt the final 7 games!” <— Some may argue. Well yes, but they were 4 games below .500 before he got hurt. What was the excuse then? If the Heat acquire a past his prime talent in Durant, then they will clearly have learned nothing after the Lowry debacle.

Suns were 33-29 when KD played this year, 3-17 when he didn’t. When KD and Booker played without Beal the Suns had a win rate comparable to the elites in the league. With KD in the court and Booker/Beal off the Suns had a +9 net rating, if you filter it down to games they all 3 actually played in its +22. Those are elite numbers.

Riley is going to have to push issue here cause it seems like KD has eyes on other teams. The T Wolves noise is getting really loud. Suns don’t control their picks so Randle, McDaniels, and a few pick assets might get it done for them. Was not expecting for the Wolves to be in on this but here we are.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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Trey Murphy made me a lot of money this year, would love for the rumors/noise to have some truth to them. The casual fan doesn’t know how good he is just yet and he has great size at 6’9 with a 7’1 wingspan and a very good vertical at 38 inches.

Even if the rumors aren’t true, if everyone on the pelicans is truly available we need to be getting on the phone and asking about him.

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Legit question: why is everyone so hung up on getting Durant? He could not take the Suns even to the playoff qualifier. “But he was hurt the final 7 games!” <— Some may argue. Well yes, but they were 4 games below .500 before he got hurt. What was the excuse then? If the Heat acquire a past his prime talent in Durant, then they will clearly have learned nothing after the Lowry debacle.

Suns were 33-29 when KD played this year, 3-17 when he didn’t. When KD and Booker played without Beal the Suns had a win rate comparable to the elites in the league. With KD in the court and Booker/Beal off the Suns had a +9 net rating, if you filter it down to games they all 3 actually played in its +22. Those are elite numbers.

Riley is going to have to push issue here cause it seems like KD has eyes on other teams. The T Wolves noise is getting really loud. Suns don’t control their picks so Randle, McDaniels, and a few pick assets might get it done for them. Was not expecting for the Wolves to be in on this but here we are.

Seems like noise is building up for the 3 teams that were rumored to have mutual interest at the deadline between the Wolves Heat and Spurs. Those other teams likely are more willing to get a good deal done in good faith, Pat will likely play games and try to lowball

[3ammy3uck3ts]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Terry Rozier
Jaime Jaquez Jr

30.5 mil out

for

CJ McCollum

30.6 in

or

Andrew Wiggins
Jaime Jaquez Jr
Terry Rozier

58.7 out

for

Herb Jones
Kelly Olynyk
CJ McCollum

58.0 in

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They have some pieces I’d love to have for sure

[MettaWorldPanda]

Sounds like Quinn is getting the Suns job. I like that we are going for the Spain coach. Bring someone in that can draw up some offense.

[MettaWorldPanda]

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Sounds like Quinn is getting the Suns job. I like that we are going for the Spain coach. Bring someone in that can draw up some offense.

I’ve never heard of him or at least that I remember but apparently he’s the real deal overseas? Is that his thing, elite offense?

[3ammy3uck3ts]

Knicks fans are now begging the Knicks front office to go out and get Bam, maybe shouldn’t have wasted 5 1sts on Bridges who’s skillset overlapped with OG who was already on the roster.

I have no clue what the Knicks have asset wise but they’re talking like Bam is plan B to Giannis.

[MettaWorldPanda]

Sounds like Quinn is getting the Suns job. I like that we are going for the Spain coach. Bring someone in that can draw up some offense.

I’ve never heard of him or at least that I remember but apparently he’s the real deal overseas? Is that his thing, elite offense?

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[3ammy3uck3ts]

Sounds like Quinn is getting the Suns job. I like that we are going for the Spain coach. Bring someone in that can draw up some offense.

I’ve never heard of him or at least that I remember but apparently he’s the real deal overseas? Is that his thing, elite offense?

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Thank god.

[greg4012]

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Definitely need new voices in the room offensively. Personnel is only part of the equation with the stagnant offense.