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Round 2: Tyler Smith

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A - Future All Star
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B - Future Rotation Piece
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C - Too Early
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D - Never a Rotation Piece
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#101 » by humanrefutation » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:04 am

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humanrefutation wrote:He gives me Bobby Portis vibes without the strength or the "don't **** with me" vibe.

Edit: The Ringer compared him to Charlie V. Not a bad comp. Hopefully he has a motor, though.

Is that bad? I prefer my draft picks not to punch teammates and get double Ts in key points of the game. But the fans get to shout Bobby Bobby!!!


To be fair, who hasn't wanted to punch Nikola Mirotic?
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#102 » by Matches Malone » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:06 am

Turk Nowitzki wrote:I haven't gotten to watch his highlights in full yet but is pre achilles injury Rodney Hood a reasonable comp? That's the first place my mind went after seeing a couple clips.


He has some similarities to GG Jackson I thought.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#103 » by emunney » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:07 am

humanrefutation wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:He gives me Bobby Portis vibes without the strength or the "don't **** with me" vibe.

Edit: The Ringer compared him to Charlie V. Not a bad comp. Hopefully he has a motor, though.

Is that bad? I prefer my draft picks not to punch teammates and get double Ts in key points of the game. But the fans get to shout Bobby Bobby!!!


To be fair, who hasn't wanted to punch Nikola Mirotic?


Also, Bobby needs to control himself, but giving him separate Ts for touching a guy twice in the space of a half second in one altercation is always going to be extremely dumb to me and absolutely not what instant replay is for.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#104 » by Ill-yasova » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:18 am

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Why does Duke have so many guys that I have zero problem with, till I hear them talk and then I’m like “what a (hygiene) bag?” Its a miracle of nature Tyler Herro didn’t go there.


Tyler Herro is like "if an Ed Hardy shirt was a person"


LOL or a Dan Flashes shirt [edited to say I didn’t know Dan Flashes was real! I thought it was made up for the “I Think You Should Leave” skit. Obnoxious shirt culture is having a moment!]

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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#105 » by rilamann » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:21 am

Horst is just hoping he's good enough to trade for a 38 year old in 2 years.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#106 » by Bernman » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:46 am

jimmybones wrote:I feel you man, I like Bobby. He's just the one I would sacrifice from our current rotation to bring in a starting two guard that can defend. A Bobby caliber player at guard balances us out more and is a chance at improving our athleticism and ability to defend.

If we have to lean on Bobby a lot as a shot creator it probably means some combo of Dame/Giannis and Khris are hurt and we're **** anyway


If we offload Bobby, the sg he's replaced w/ would need to have some orchestrating abilities. Bruce Brown would be 1 example.

And sans drafting a rotation-ready big man, which we didn't, we have to find one thru our limited FA & trade options, especially after we'd already offloaded Bobby.

If we have Giannis & one of the other 2 core players, we're capable of winning it all. Heck, even Dame & Midds had an outside shot, at least if they had a decent supporting cast. Sometimes that would mean a 3rd guy, like Bobby, or whoever, has to do some creating. So that's worth maintaining, in replacement form at least.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#107 » by PG Graveyard » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:53 am

rilamann wrote:Horst is just hoping he's good enough to trade for a 38 year old in 2 years.


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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#108 » by Bernman » Fri Jun 28, 2024 12:56 am

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ReasonablySober wrote:Vecenie and whoever was on his broadcast thought his future was at center. That'd be cool.


He'd need to put on some weight and get a lot stronger, but sure, why not. Doubt he can be any worse of a rim-deterrent than Bobby is.


yeah 6'9" barefoot with a 7'1" wingspan is big enough to at least play SOME 5 down the road

I do see him as a 3/4 tho, at least for his rookie contract


He's got an 8'9" standing reach (if the combine measurement was accurate), in addition to being lean. Beauchamp was lean w/ an 8'10 standing reach. Maybe the way to salvage Beauchamp as an asset is for him to fill out and play him at C.

In all seriousness, off the top of my head I can't think of a C w/ an 8'9" standing reach. And if they did, he was notably strong, which Tyler isn't, & there's no reason to believe he will be. So no chance he's a C if that standing reach is near accurate.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#109 » by German Athens » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:01 am

Bernman wrote:
JonHeist wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
He'd need to put on some weight and get a lot stronger, but sure, why not. Doubt he can be any worse of a rim-deterrent than Bobby is.


yeah 6'9" barefoot with a 7'1" wingspan is big enough to at least play SOME 5 down the road

I do see him as a 3/4 tho, at least for his rookie contract


He's got an 8'9" standing reach (if the combine measurement was accurate), in addition to being lean. Beauchamp was lean w/ an 8'10 standing reach. Maybe the way to salvage Beauchamp as an asset is for him to fill out and play him at C.


He definitely shorted his standing reach to boost his vert numbers. Probably 8’11” or so.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#110 » by Bernman » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:04 am

German Athens wrote:He definitely shorted his standing reach to boost his vert numbers. Probably 8’11” or so.


I've heard of one player doing that, & I didn't get it then, let alone how it would be an epidemic. That's even harder to believe. I, & scouts, care about your standing reach more than vert as a bigger guy.

Unfortunately, this is all we have to go by, AFAIK. Optically, he looks closer to a 3, than a 5, between the frame & standing verticality.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#111 » by Baddy Chuck » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:07 am

Defensively I look at guys like Nance or Looney who can/could use their speed and length on the perimeter to contain. I think standing reach helps a lot more inside where neither dudes are really rim protectors but find ways elsewhere to compete defensively. If he's more of a four, which to me his skillset suggests, and we have Giannis who is basically just a 5 anyway I'm not very concerned with his measurables. I wouldn't be looking forward to many Smith/Bobby lineups though.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#112 » by Matches Malone » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:11 am

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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#113 » by German Athens » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:22 am

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German Athens wrote:He definitely shorted his standing reach to boost his vert numbers. Probably 8’11” or so.


I've heard of one player doing that, & I didn't get it then, let alone how it would be an epidemic. That's even harder to believe. I, & scouts, care about your standing reach more than vert as a bigger guy.

Unfortunately, this is all we have to go by, AFAIK. Optically, he looks closer to a 3, than a 5, between the frame & standing verticality.


I don’t get it either, particularly as a big, but it does seem to be pretty wide spread at this point. Oso is another guy who appears to have done it. Reed Shepperd probably did.

More factually, we can look at guys who’ve been to the combine multiple times, Bona dropped his standing reach this year by 2.5”. Daron Holmes 1”. Terrence Shannon Jr dropped 2”.

Guards likely do it even more often, but I don’t care to keep digging.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#114 » by drone3 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:45 am

Hoping Tyler is our Trey Murphy III
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#115 » by yb90 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 1:56 am

Gives me Tari Eason vibes.
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Post#116 » by drone3 » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:01 am

Looks more like a 4 than a 5 but either way majority of our players are multi positional
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#117 » by worthlessBucks » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:20 am

Looks like he’s got some tools.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#118 » by Prez » Fri Jun 28, 2024 2:58 am

Tight. Tight tight tight. Watched a few highlight vids and I’m sold on poor man’s Bosh.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#119 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:00 am

I am okay with this pick.
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Re: Round 2: Tyler Smith 

Post#120 » by Matches Malone » Fri Jun 28, 2024 3:03 am

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