Giannis Thread - 13th Season with the Bucks

[aboveAverage]

Hopefully this extra pressure from Giannis and his camp means that the owners will consider a head coach change sooner than they would’ve preferred if we don’t start the season off well.

Give us a better coach, a few trade deadline deals, and some luck, and I think we can be a decent contender. Next season should be even better with more options for Horst. I think we will be fine and will be able to convince Giannis to stay for at least this season.

Not sure what to make of him moving his family to Greece. If that’s true, I’m not sure it’s related to the Bucks or Milwaukee in general.

[StickeeFingaz]

I find it very hard to believe that his kids are going to be in Greece while he’s playing ball in Milwaukee.

[Prez]

The family moving to Greece stuff is bizarre and it would be bizarre regardless of the team he’s playing on in the NBA, even if he were to get traded. It doesn’t make any sense.

[humanrefutation]

I find it very hard to believe that his kids are going to be in Greece while he’s playing ball in Milwaukee.

It happens all the time with immigrant families, the vast majority of whom do not have private jets that they can hop on at a moment's notice to reunite at will. I have relatives who spent years apart from their kids - sans a visit here or there - because they had to work in one country to afford a decent lifestyle for their kids in another.

I don't see this as particularly extraordinary and I don't see a relationship with a potential trade request unless you think we're trading him to Panathinaikos.

[emunney]

So he can’t sign a super max with a new team six months after a trade?

No. You can only sign a supermax with the team that drafted you unless your traded while still on your rookie contract.

Its why Luka didnt sign a supermax with the Lakers. He wasn't eligible

Like I said hes blatantly lying because he doesn't think people are smart enough to know better.

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Someone smarter than me can correct me if I'm wrong, but Shams seems to be right.

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant
to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran
Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that
covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into,
264 Article VII
were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection
with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to
Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded
before six (6) months following the date on which such
Extension or Renegotiation was signed. If a team acquires
a player in a trade, then, for a period of six (6) months
following the date of the trade, the team may not enter into
(X) an Extension with the player pursuant to Section 7(a)
above that covers five (5) Seasons (or, if the trade occurred
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such trade occurred, were
permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with
an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (Y) a

The keys here are what the supermax is and how many years of service Giannis has. The supermax gives you 30% of the cap if you've met certain criteria. It typically only applies to guys getting their 2nd contracts, because once you have 7 years of service, you are eligible for that 30% figure anyway. And once you have 10 years of service, you can get 35% of the cap. In all cases, your personal max salary is either that proportion of the cap applying to your circumstance or 105% of your previous salary, whichever is greater.

You can also hit the 35% level early if you don't change teams (except by a trade during your rookie deal). But Giannis is about to enter year 13. He's 35% no matter what.

[tydett]

I pulled a Supreme and asked ChatGPT about the max salary for Giannis and it told me that he makes too much money to contribute to a Roth IRA so I hope he's getting his post-career affairs in order and has a good accountant.

[jakecronus8]

Any chance that once Giannis' current deal expires he just plays in Greece for a few years before retiring?

[emunney]

No. You can only sign a supermax with the team that drafted you unless your traded while still on your rookie contract.

Its why Luka didnt sign a supermax with the Lakers. He wasn't eligible

Like I said hes blatantly lying because he doesn't think people are smart enough to know better.

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Someone smarter than me can correct me if I'm wrong, but Shams seems to be right.

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant
to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran
Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that
covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into,
264 Article VII
were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection
with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to
Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded
before six (6) months following the date on which such
Extension or Renegotiation was signed. If a team acquires
a player in a trade, then, for a period of six (6) months
following the date of the trade, the team may not enter into
(X) an Extension with the player pursuant to Section 7(a)
above that covers five (5) Seasons (or, if the trade occurred
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such trade occurred, were
permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with
an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (Y) a

While that reads like stereo instructions I might be wrong but as far as I know...



To be eligible for an NBA supermax contract extension, a player must be entering their eighth or ninth season, have been with the team that drafted them (or traded for them on their rookie deal) for their entire career, and have achieved one of the following in the preceding seasons: selection to an All-NBA team, winning NBA MVP, or winning the Defensive Player of the Year award.

Key Criteria for Supermax Eligibility
Years of Service: The player must be entering their eighth or ninth year in the NBA.

Team Loyalty: The player must be on the team that originally drafted them or traded for them on their rookie scale contract.

Award Criteria: The player must have met at least one of the following criteria within the three seasons preceding the contract extension:
All-NBA Team: Selected to the All-NBA First, Second, or Third Team.
MVP: Won the NBA Most Valuable Player award.
Defensive Player of the Year (DPOY): Won the Defensive Player of the Year award.

I'd really need it explained why Luka wasn't supermax eligible after being traded if Giannis still would be

If im wrong so be it and I retract my statement about the blatant lie. Shams is still a hack just driving clicks at the start of the preseason and that ill stand by


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Luka's extension starts at 30% of the 26/27 cap because he has fewer than 10 years of service and has changed teams after his rookie deal. Right now that's 49.8m but it can change according to how accurate the league's cap projections turn out.

[aboveAverage]

Any chance that once Giannis' current deal expires he just plays in Greece for a few years before retiring?

Unlikely. He just released a video on Instagram talking about building a legacy and how important it is to him. He wants another championship. From the vibes I got, it seemed like he would really like that second title to be with the Bucks.

[PG Graveyard]

No. You can only sign a supermax with the team that drafted you unless your traded while still on your rookie contract.

Its why Luka didnt sign a supermax with the Lakers. He wasn't eligible

Like I said hes blatantly lying because he doesn't think people are smart enough to know better.

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Someone smarter than me can correct me if I'm wrong, but Shams seems to be right.

In the event a player enters into (A) an Extension pursuant
to Section 7(a) above (other than a Designated Veteran
Player Extension governed by Section (f)(ii) below) that
covers five (5) Seasons (or, for Extensions entered into
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such Extension was entered into,
264 Article VII
were permissible in Extensions entered into in connection
with an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (B) a Renegotiation pursuant to
Section 7(c) above, then the player may not be traded
before six (6) months following the date on which such
Extension or Renegotiation was signed. If a team acquires
a player in a trade, then, for a period of six (6) months
following the date of the trade, the team may not enter into
(X) an Extension with the player pursuant to Section 7(a)
above that covers five (5) Seasons (or, if the trade occurred
prior to the first day of the 2024-25 Salary Cap Year,
four (4) or more Seasons) and/or provides for Salary and
Unlikely Bonuses or annual increases or decreases in the
player’s Salary and/or Unlikely Bonuses in excess of the
amounts that, at the time such trade occurred, were
permissible in Extensions entered into in connection with
an agreement to trade the Contract pursuant to
Section 8(e)(2) above, or (Y) a

The keys here are what the supermax is and how many years of service Giannis has. The supermax gives you 30% of the cap if you've met certain criteria. It typically only applies to guys getting their 2nd contracts, because once you have 7 years of service, you are eligible for that 30% figure anyway. And once you have 10 years of service, you can get 35% of the cap. In all cases, your personal max salary is either that proportion of the cap applying to your circumstance or 105% of your previous salary, whichever is greater.

You can also hit the 35% level early if you don't change teams (except by a trade during your rookie deal). But Giannis is about to enter year 13. He's 35% no matter what.

So Shams was right about that part but the rest was gossipy garbage that wouldn’t make it in the National Enquirer

[Matches Malone]

Any chance that once Giannis' current deal expires he just plays in Greece for a few years before retiring?

It would suck for the Bucks asset wise, but selfishly I'd almost prefer it than seeing him dawn another NBA jersey. Think he wants more NBA rings though first.

He could move on from the Bucks, and it ends in him winning more titles and everything he envisions, but there's also a world in which it backfires, and he gets Shaq'd around the league and winds up playing with 6 different organizations before it's all said and done. For someone like Giannis who talks about legacy a lot, I'm not sure he'd want to finish out like that.

[Bodiroga13]

The Greek site that posted about his family moving to Greece, is a trash site. Either it's true or not, i agree that this is not related to a potential trade request, how could it be? More of an indication that he wants to leave NBA it seems and play in Euroleague, than anything else. But this looks irrational to me, leaving so much money on the table. UNLESS he can't stand anymore all this NBA pressure or something like that. Don't forget that after the bubble, he said that he thought about stop playing basketball because he felt worn out.

If i had to guess, i would say that this whole conversation about a potential trade-which, i repeat is not related to his family moving to Greece- could be Giannis pressing Bucks organization to trade this 31 first round pick+Kuzma for a good player, in order to maximize his chances for another championship. I am not justifying this "blackmail", i am just saying it's possible. He already did it with Dame. He knows that his window is short. So maybe that's what his silence about this trade conversation, implies.

[humanrefutation]

Ultimately, I do not think they'll trade Giannis this season.

Next summer is the turning point. The Bucks will have a 26 first and their own 31-33 firsts. That's three firsts plus a pick swap (and other swaps-on-swaps). They could probably turn that into a pretty damn good player - that is, if Giannis extends.

[FrieAaron]

The family moving to Greece stuff is bizarre and it would be bizarre regardless of the team he’s playing on in the NBA, even if he were to get traded. It doesn’t make any sense.

Yep. Playing in New York or LA makes it virtually no easier to play while your family is in Greece than it does in Milwaukee. I could certainly see him preferring they grew up there, but in terms of basketball I don't think it indicates much, unless he plans on playing overseas way sooner that we would think.

[raferfenix]

If i had to guess, i would say that this whole conversation about a potential trade-which, i repeat is not related to his family moving to Greece- could be Giannis pressing Bucks organization to trade this 31 first round pick+Kuzma for a good player, in order to maximize his chances for another championship.

Idk if Giannis would pull a LeBron demanding an immediate liquidation of all remaining assets.

But the calculus of Horst holding his fire until a draft day trade when we could package more future firsts absolutely comes in this context.

Alternatively if it's done the Bucks would be that much more reticent to deal a future first so many years away.

[Packbuckman]

They are going to have a very good season and Giannis will sign the super max extension to end all doubt book it baby

[Bucknado]

Can’t believe he didn’t just send the kiddos to Hartford Ave.

[GiannisAnte34]

They are going to have a very good season and Giannis will sign the super max extension to end all doubt book it baby

[Daver]

[quote="raferfenix"]Edens talking about a June meeting Giannis doesn’t recall is absolutely untenable in this context.

Mariah moving the family out of Milwaukee isn’t great either.

This Shams article reads to me like Giannis was pissed how the Bucks handled media day.

Why else would people in the know be turning up the heat at the start of the season talking to Shams? Giannis had an opportunity to say Shams’ reporting wasn’t true (and he could say so still) and went the opposite direction.[/quote


This Shams article reads to me like Giannis was pissed how the Bucks handled media day.


Please explain what did the bucks do on media day to piss him off.
Giannis has been doing nothing but mentioning how much he likes the turner signing n thinks this team has gotten faster n better.He thinks tery can compete.If im giannis im still pissed about 2019 mega gag when they were healthy.Dont get his feelings toward last 3 years when either hin midds or dame didnt play in round 1.No one knows how bucks do with a healthy squad

[Frank Nova]

Maybe Giannis is part of the Maverick Carter Euro movement with LeBron and Miska Raznatovic?