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[ShootingtheJ]

Brooklyn’s firesale for peanuts makes me think that Pat + Marjon + 2031 SRP for Thomas could be a real thing.

The one thing Brooklyn seems committed to is not taking on salary past this year.

[Frank Nova]

Brooklyn’s firesale for peanuts makes me think that Pat + Marjon + 2031 SRP for Thomas could be a real thing.

It’s a no brainer.

[Frank Nova]

Brooklyn’s firesale for peanuts makes me think that Pat + Marjon + 2031 SRP for Thomas could be a real thing.

The one thing Brooklyn seems committed to is not taking on salary past this year.

Gotta get a guarantee that Pat will decline his PO or buy him out for pennies on the dollar. The latter seems somewhat realistic but idk.

[ReasonablySober]

So what will this board have to talk about with DFS being on the move?

[engelmartin]

So what will this board have to talk about with DFS being on the move?

Hopefully Nick Richards.

[Frank Nova]

but why?

Cam is actually a significantly worse defender than Dame. just to put that into perspective

We have wing defense and a POA, we need a microwave scorer that when the half court offense breaks down and we need a bucket, we can get one. Cam is the perfect super 6 man to bring off the bench and protect a lead or shoot us back into a game. You need to score more points than the other team to win, just to put that into perspective.

I love Jackson Jr continuing to start next to Dame and I’m good with having Trent Jr and Aj Green coming off the bench. I’m not good with Aj Green being depended on in a playoff series and I’d like to have a variety of options there. And I really like Noah Clowney as a stretch 4 to have in the rotation as well just to throw that in there.

Give up 2 bum players and a draft pick 7yrs from now to strengthen our immediate title chances with Dame and Giannis and what’s left of Khris? Yeah, it’s a no brainer for me.

what year do you believe it is?

i think you think we have wing defense and POA defense because it is improved over last season. but last season was atrocious in those respects. love Andre but his defense is only valuable if he's able to stay on the court. after him, it's still kinda yikes.

Lol what does what year it is have to do with anything? Just out of curiosity..

I agree with you for the most part, maybe it is just the illusion that the bar was set so low last year, the jump this year isn’t as grandiose as it seems. Idk. But, I’m using the NBA cup as reference here, this team clearly has that next gear when games become meaningful. What we did to OKC is the model I’m going to go by on why I’m fairly confident our wing defense and POA isn’t any type of major issue. A minor one? Maybe, again Idk.

I don’t think it’s “yikes” necessarily because I really like Jackson Jr and Ryan Rollins in that role. Both are super capable players. But, I don’t trust Aj Green or Trent Jr in a playoff series. I understand your concern.

We still have elite rim protection behind everything and outside of Dame we don’t have a dynamic guard to take pressure off of him. That’s why I’m so enamored with Cam Thomas and think he’s a good fit here regardless of the nay sayers.

When everyone in the playoffs is allowed to play a more physical brand of defense, every NBA player becomes a capable defender with effort. It’s 100x harder to get a bucket in that regard. We struggled with that so bad for how long? You just can’t have enough of those guys.

[raferfenix]

Guys who supposedly were going for firsts being traded for seconds is a good sign for the value of our 2031 first.

Bad sign for what picks Bobby could yield though if we need to liquidate him in a multi-team deal.

[ShootingtheJ]

We have wing defense and a POA, we need a microwave scorer that when the half court offense breaks down and we need a bucket, we can get one. Cam is the perfect super 6 man to bring off the bench and protect a lead or shoot us back into a game. You need to score more points than the other team to win, just to put that into perspective.

I love Jackson Jr continuing to start next to Dame and I’m good with having Trent Jr and Aj Green coming off the bench. I’m not good with Aj Green being depended on in a playoff series and I’d like to have a variety of options there. And I really like Noah Clowney as a stretch 4 to have in the rotation as well just to throw that in there.

Give up 2 bum players and a draft pick 7yrs from now to strengthen our immediate title chances with Dame and Giannis and what’s left of Khris? Yeah, it’s a no brainer for me.

what year do you believe it is?

i think you think we have wing defense and POA defense because it is improved over last season. but last season was atrocious in those respects. love Andre but his defense is only valuable if he's able to stay on the court. after him, it's still kinda yikes.

Lol what does what year it is have to do with anything? Just out of curiosity..

I agree with you for the most part, maybe it is just the illusion that the bar was set so low last year, the jump this year isn’t as grandiose as it seems. Idk. But, I’m using the NBA cup as reference here, this team clearly has that next gear when games become meaningful. What we did to OKC is the model I’m going to go by on why I’m fairly confident our wing defense and POA isn’t any type of major issue. A minor one? Maybe, again Idk.

I don’t think it’s “yikes” necessarily because I really like Jackson Jr and Ryan Rollins in that role. Both are super capable players. But, I don’t trust Aj Green or Trent Jr in a playoff series. I understand your concern.

We still have elite rim protection behind everything and outside of Dame we don’t have a dynamic guard to take pressure off of him. That’s why I’m so enamored with Cam Thomas and think he’s a good fit here regardless of the nay sayers.

When everyone in the playoffs is allowed to play a more physical brand of defense, every NBA player becomes a capable defender with effort. It’s 100x harder to get a bucket in that regard. We struggled with that so bad for how long? You just can’t have enough of those guys.

Bucks need a guy who can handle the ball, playmake, and defend. The only skill Thomas has is hitting mid range jumpers. He'll be shut down versus good defenders.

[fansinceforever]

We're doing that thing again where we ignore that the other team needs to be compensated when trading away solid players.

[yb90]

what year do you believe it is?

i think you think we have wing defense and POA defense because it is improved over last season. but last season was atrocious in those respects. love Andre but his defense is only valuable if he's able to stay on the court. after him, it's still kinda yikes.

Lol what does what year it is have to do with anything? Just out of curiosity..

I agree with you for the most part, maybe it is just the illusion that the bar was set so low last year, the jump this year isn’t as grandiose as it seems. Idk. But, I’m using the NBA cup as reference here, this team clearly has that next gear when games become meaningful. What we did to OKC is the model I’m going to go by on why I’m fairly confident our wing defense and POA isn’t any type of major issue. A minor one? Maybe, again Idk.

I don’t think it’s “yikes” necessarily because I really like Jackson Jr and Ryan Rollins in that role. Both are super capable players. But, I don’t trust Aj Green or Trent Jr in a playoff series. I understand your concern.

We still have elite rim protection behind everything and outside of Dame we don’t have a dynamic guard to take pressure off of him. That’s why I’m so enamored with Cam Thomas and think he’s a good fit here regardless of the nay sayers.

When everyone in the playoffs is allowed to play a more physical brand of defense, every NBA player becomes a capable defender with effort. It’s 100x harder to get a bucket in that regard. We struggled with that so bad for how long? You just can’t have enough of those guys.

Bucks need a guy who can handle the ball, playmake, and defend. The only skill Thomas has is hitting mid range jumpers. He'll be shut down versus good defenders.

Would a good defender be matched up on him if he shares the floor with Giannis, Khris, and Dame? Also. He is a good ball handler and 3pt shooter. He is a smarter and slightly younger Jordan Poole.

[ShootingtheJ]

Lol what does what year it is have to do with anything? Just out of curiosity..

I agree with you for the most part, maybe it is just the illusion that the bar was set so low last year, the jump this year isn’t as grandiose as it seems. Idk. But, I’m using the NBA cup as reference here, this team clearly has that next gear when games become meaningful. What we did to OKC is the model I’m going to go by on why I’m fairly confident our wing defense and POA isn’t any type of major issue. A minor one? Maybe, again Idk.

I don’t think it’s “yikes” necessarily because I really like Jackson Jr and Ryan Rollins in that role. Both are super capable players. But, I don’t trust Aj Green or Trent Jr in a playoff series. I understand your concern.

We still have elite rim protection behind everything and outside of Dame we don’t have a dynamic guard to take pressure off of him. That’s why I’m so enamored with Cam Thomas and think he’s a good fit here regardless of the nay sayers.

When everyone in the playoffs is allowed to play a more physical brand of defense, every NBA player becomes a capable defender with effort. It’s 100x harder to get a bucket in that regard. We struggled with that so bad for how long? You just can’t have enough of those guys.

Bucks need a guy who can handle the ball, playmake, and defend. The only skill Thomas has is hitting mid range jumpers. He'll be shut down versus good defenders.

Would a good defender be matched up on him if he shares the floor with Giannis, Khris, and Dame? Also. He is a good ball handler and 3pt shooter. He is a smarter and slightly younger Jordan Poole.

Versus Boston, yes. Who's he guarding against them?

[yb90]

Bucks need a guy who can handle the ball, playmake, and defend. The only skill Thomas has is hitting mid range jumpers. He'll be shut down versus good defenders.

Would a good defender be matched up on him if he shares the floor with Giannis, Khris, and Dame? Also. He is a good ball handler and 3pt shooter. He is a smarter and slightly younger Jordan Poole.

Versus Boston, yes. Who's he guarding against them?

Probably White to keep him from getting posted up by Holiday.

[Fotis St]

De-Bud the Bucks Team :

Khris
Brook
Marjon

for

Josh Giddey
Vucevic
Lonzo Ball

We shed 7.6M ... not sure who needs to add value here. Bulls though terrible for years do not have draft picks. They have pick swaps like us and their '31 .... so If we have to add or receive value ... pick swap their '31 first

This is a not sexy Khris replacement with Giddey. Lonzo is the filler & Brook for Vuc is the sweetener. Tired of Lillard getting more boards than Brook.

(Checked on fanspo success cause we sent out the biggest contract "Khris")


EDIT

Just checked

Lonzo + Giddey for Khris works

I didn't notice Lonzo is back playing ... I am happy for him and maybe he could become our secondary playmaker and future primary... I would pull the trigger , it is a high risk - high reward move to get Lonzo.

(adding Brook and Vuc makes it more complicated)

Thoughts ?

[Badgerlander]

So what will this board have to talk about with DFS being on the move?

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[ShootingtheJ]

So what will this board have to talk about with DFS being on the move?

Read on Twitter

Walkers agent is working really hard, but he'll need some teams to go threw some injuries to find a spot. He's as good as some guys in the league, but it's tough when roster are tight.

[yb90]

De-Bud the Bucks Team :

Khris
Brook
Marjon

for

Josh Giddey
Vucevic
Lonzo Ball

We shed 7.6M ... not sure who needs to add value here. Bulls though terrible for years do not have draft picks. They have pick swaps like us and their '31 .... so If we have to add or receive value ... pick swap their '31 first

This is a not sexy Khris replacement with Giddey. Lonzo is the filler & Brook for Vuc is the sweetener. Tired of Lillard getting more boards than Brook.

(Checked on fanspo success cause we sent out the biggest contract "Khris")


EDIT

Just checked

Lonzo + Giddey for Khris works

I didn't notice Lonzo is back playing ... I am happy for him and maybe he could become our secondary playmaker and future primary... I would pull the trigger , it is a high risk - high reward move to get Lonzo.

(adding Brook and Vuc makes it more complicated)

Thoughts ?

I'd rather try to trade the '31 and Pat for Giddey. Lonzo and Giddey for Khris is a no go for me.

[raferfenix]

With firsts at a premium maybe the Bucks are incentivized to help another team get Cam Johnson:

The Nets are now said to be seeking multiple first-round picks from teams interested in trading for sharpshooter Cam Johnson. – via marcstein.substack.com

Kings are where I first started thinking about this since they’re in such a Herb Kohl kind of purgatory where they need to acquire more talent to win now but can’t be too risky because Rich Paul.

[Baddy Chuck]

"Brooklyn Nets want a first for DFS"
"Brooklyn Nets want a first for Schroder"
"Brooklyn Nets want 2 firsts for Cam Johnson"

Mhm, mhm. Nice to want.

[-Jragon-]

De-Bud the Bucks Team :

Khris
Brook
Marjon

for

Josh Giddey
Vucevic
Lonzo Ball

We shed 7.6M ... not sure who needs to add value here. Bulls though terrible for years do not have draft picks. They have pick swaps like us and their '31 .... so If we have to add or receive value ... pick swap their '31 first

This is a not sexy Khris replacement with Giddey. Lonzo is the filler & Brook for Vuc is the sweetener. Tired of Lillard getting more boards than Brook.

(Checked on fanspo success cause we sent out the biggest contract "Khris")


EDIT

Just checked

Lonzo + Giddey for Khris works

I didn't notice Lonzo is back playing ... I am happy for him and maybe he could become our secondary playmaker and future primary... I would pull the trigger , it is a high risk - high reward move to get Lonzo.

(adding Brook and Vuc makes it more complicated)

Thoughts ?

Not sure why they'd want KM especially after how he just choked against them.

I'd do it in a heartbeat

[paulpressey25]

"Brooklyn Nets want a first for DFS"
"Brooklyn Nets want a first for Schroder"
"Brooklyn Nets want 2 firsts for Cam Johnson"

Mhm, mhm. Nice to want.

Haven’t done an analysis of it, but how many available firsts are out there with contenders. Feels like we’ve had so many future firsts dealt over the past three years that the only team with a surplus to give is OKC. Everyone else is tapped out of draft capital.