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Post#1241 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:12 pm

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GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:question for you guys.....

if your girlfriend was a supermodel making millions of dollars a year but was kind of a trainwreck emotionally and sometimes attacked you with a butcher knife would you.....

1. stay and try to work it out?
2. run and hide?

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How often, and how does my wife feel about it?


basically this happens during sex the one time she gives it up a year. the rest of the time shes a perfect angel.

your wife is acting like fans of other basketball teams do the bucks. shes thinks its kinda funny and shes glad this is your problem and not hers but there is some jealously involved
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Post#1242 » by Craig_Hodges » Fri Jun 11, 2021 4:13 pm

I'm right there with the extreme frustration, however, eluding to trading him or going back into full tank mode is absolute bonkers to me. I have been closely following this team for over 3 decades and these last 4 years have EASILY been the most enjoyable. Higher highs and lower lows, but overall an amazing 4 years of Bucks consumption compared to any other 4 year stretch since 1990. I love Giannis and all his flaws, just like I loved Favre and all his. Come to grips with the fact that this is not Jordan or Lebron or KD or Larry Bird or Bill Russell. He will always be a step below those guys and his main problem will probably always be the mental aspect of the game. I'd rather have a majorly flawed superstar than no superstar at all. For better or for worse, if you root for the Bucks, that is your only choice.
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Post#1243 » by ANTETOKOUNBROS » Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:53 am

Giannis is the same player or worse since his rookie year from a skills standpoint-- what has changed is that he filled out his gifted frame and regressed in all facets regarding shooting. He has not demonstrated any polish, 'cleverness' or advanced honed skills on offense , his decision making is the same as it has always been, poor and erratic-- it really does seem like he has not been coached his entire career. He has been succeeding on the basis of his physical gifts and natural ability -- I think based on the fact that he won 2 MVPs and a DPOY, proves he is probably a top 5 physically gifted player of all time.
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Post#1244 » by Pachinko_ » Sat Jun 12, 2021 6:54 am

Craig_Hodges wrote:I'm right there with the extreme frustration, however, eluding to trading him or going back into full tank mode is absolute bonkers to me.

Depends what you get. Something like Tatum + Brown I'd go for it, but we're probably past the point when teams would offer anything like that.
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Post#1245 » by HKPackFan » Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:34 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:question for you guys.....

if your girlfriend was a supermodel making millions of dollars a year but was kind of a trainwreck emotionally and sometimes attacked you with a butcher knife would you.....

1. stay and try to work it out?
2. run and hide?

asking for a friend



Just run, don't think about it, just run.

Especially if you've already had some fun. Because it only goes downhill.

Crazy never goes away.
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Post#1246 » by yannisk » Sun Jun 13, 2021 12:47 pm

how does he have his hands like that?

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Post#1247 » by machu46 » Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:49 pm

yannisk wrote:how does he have his hands like that?

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Honestly, the hands are the least of his issues. It's a little clunky but that's to be expected with the gigantic hands he has. He still does a pretty good job of holding the ball with his right hand and not letting his left hand interfere. Ball actually comes off his hand pretty well. Everything else is messed up though.
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Post#1248 » by midranger » Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:55 pm

yannisk wrote:how does he have his hands like that?

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Re: Giannis SIGNS 

Post#1249 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:57 pm

ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:Giannis is the same player or worse since his rookie year from a skills standpoint-- what has changed is that he filled out his gifted frame and regressed in all facets regarding shooting. He has not demonstrated any polish, 'cleverness' or advanced honed skills on offense , his decision making is the same as it has always been, poor and erratic-- it really does seem like he has not been coached his entire career. He has been succeeding on the basis of his physical gifts and natural ability -- I think based on the fact that he won 2 MVPs and a DPOY, proves he is probably a top 5 physically gifted player of all time.

good post... id say his usage determination and ego has increased. skills remain stagnant. while shooting confidence and accuracy have declined.
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Post#1250 » by crkone » Sun Jun 13, 2021 4:34 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:Giannis is the same player or worse since his rookie year from a skills standpoint-- what has changed is that he filled out his gifted frame and regressed in all facets regarding shooting. He has not demonstrated any polish, 'cleverness' or advanced honed skills on offense , his decision making is the same as it has always been, poor and erratic-- it really does seem like he has not been coached his entire career. He has been succeeding on the basis of his physical gifts and natural ability -- I think based on the fact that he won 2 MVPs and a DPOY, proves he is probably a top 5 physically gifted player of all time.

good post... id say his usage determination and ego has increased. skills remain stagnant. while shooting confidence and accuracy have declined.
The funny thing is he's gotten numerous shooting and personal coaches hired and fired too.

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Post#1251 » by LuessiT » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:28 pm

By the way can we bring back Giannis DHOs, where his drives are fake DHOs into an explosion to the rim? Something like that:



These possessions would drastically reduce the amount of offensive fouls called on Giannis (because the defense isn't in a position to take a charge), cut down the time Giannis aimlessly dribbles and increase ball movement. Such an easy play and idk why we're not running it (other than Giannis not being able to make the read when to drive and when to hand off).
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Post#1252 » by bucksfansince88 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:32 pm

LuessiT wrote:By the way can we bring back Giannis DHOs, where his drives are fake DHOs into an explosion to the rim? Something like that:



These possessions would drastically reduce the amount of offensive fouls called on Giannis (because the defense isn't in a position to take a charge), cut down the time Giannis aimlessly dribbles and increase ball movement. Such an easy play and idk why we're not running it (other than Giannis not being able to make the read when to drive and when to hand off).


That would require coaching
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Post#1253 » by Plossum » Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:47 pm

This Giannis takes around here are just awful. Dude is only 25 and an MVP caliber player. Curry, Lebron, KD, Jordan, Dirk etc all 27 or older before they finally broke through. It takes time and you gotta take your lumps sometimes before you can make it. That some numbnuts around here genuinely think trading Giannis is a good idea is beyond dopey. It takes time for some of the greats to break through. Have just a little faith.

He's got flaws at the moment, but most players do. I still remember the **** Dirk used to cop, especially after 2007, and it's all just so stupid.

Settle down blog boys and enjoy Giannis while we have him, warts and all. It sure as hell beats watching the Electric Swag Twins or burning seasons for high draft picks.
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Post#1254 » by blazza18 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:11 am

The Giannis isn't age x when all these future hall of famers finally broke through would make more sense if Giannis had the brains or offensive repertoire those dudes have.

Trading him would probably be the biggest decision any franchise as ever made but finding the actual perfect roster to surround him with is an enormous task I'm pretty certain no one outside of 1 or 2 elite GM's can do.
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Re: Giannis SIGNS 

Post#1255 » by mattg » Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:12 am

Plossum wrote:This Giannis takes around here are just awful. Dude is only 25 and an MVP caliber player. Curry, Lebron, KD, Jordan, Dirk etc all 27 or older before they finally broke through. It takes time and you gotta take your lumps sometimes before you can make it. That some numbnuts around here genuinely think trading Giannis is a good idea is beyond dopey. It takes time for some of the greats to break through. Have just a little faith.

He's got flaws at the moment, but most players do. I still remember the **** Dirk used to cop, especially after 2007, and it's all just so stupid.

Settle down blog boys and enjoy Giannis while we have him, warts and all. It sure as hell beats watching the Electric Swag Twins or burning seasons for high draft picks.

Let's be real, none of the guys you mentioned ever struggled with decision making like Giannis does. Curry/Dirk/KD were bothered by super physical defense and adapted to that. Jordan and Lebron just went from having scrub teammates to legit ones. But generally they made good decisions. Giannis literally looks completely baffled making basic reads. Like he can't reliably pass out of double teams let alone even anticipate them :lol:

Also, look at the actual basketball skill level of the guys you mentioned and compare to Giannis. It's not even on the same planet. It's just not a legit comparison since none of those dudes were failing specifically because they were continually trying to do things they had no ability to do. It's not like Dirk was trying to be a PnR ball handler and then realized oh I gotta get into the mid post and stick to my strengths. Or that MJ was just jacking 10 3s per game until a coach told him to drive to the basket. Or that Curry was posting up 15 times a game until he realized he's the GOAT shooter. That's where we are at with Giannis. Like if Giannis made Monta Ellis level decisions we already have a title, maybe 2, and are en route to potentially number 3.
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Re: Giannis SIGNS 

Post#1256 » by Plossum » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:07 am

All fair points, but I'm still going to back Giannis to figure it out. I disagree with people who say he doesn't have the skills or smarts to do it. He isn't Josh Smith or Dwight Howard. Giannis doesn't have the skills of those guys I mentioned (HoFers who took time to break through), but a lot of them can't do the things Giannis can do. Giannis will get better at playing to his strengths, working around his weaknesses and building the skills he needs to evolve. It might take another couple of years but to think he's a finished product is foolish IMO.
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Post#1257 » by MissKhriddleton » Thu Jun 17, 2021 1:27 am

blazza18 wrote:Trading him would probably be the biggest decision any franchise as ever made but finding the actual perfect roster to surround him with is an enormous task I'm pretty certain no one outside of 1 or 2 elite GM's can do.

Not sure this is true at all. We just **** it up with horrible asset management for the last 10 years.
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Re: Giannis SIGNS 

Post#1258 » by paulpressey25 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:03 am

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blazza18 wrote:Trading him would probably be the biggest decision any franchise as ever made but finding the actual perfect roster to surround him with is an enormous task I'm pretty certain no one outside of 1 or 2 elite GM's can do.

Not sure this is true at all. We just **** it up with horrible asset management for the last 10 years.


Yep, all we have from the drafts of 2014 to 2027 are Jrue and Donte. That’s terrible.
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Re: Giannis SIGNS 

Post#1259 » by TD75 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:26 am

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MissKhriddleton wrote:
blazza18 wrote:Trading him would probably be the biggest decision any franchise as ever made but finding the actual perfect roster to surround him with is an enormous task I'm pretty certain no one outside of 1 or 2 elite GM's can do.

Not sure this is true at all. We just **** it up with horrible asset management for the last 10 years.


Yep, all we have from the drafts of 2014 to 2027 are Jrue and Donte. That’s terrible.

Agreed. If the Bucks actually had Masai or any other elite GM and maximized the value of their draft picks, it would be a different discussion. However, for all the issues with Giannis' in game decision making, the roster building of the Bucks as a franchise has been a disaster (with moments of good adaptations in between).
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Re: Giannis SIGNS 

Post#1260 » by blazza18 » Thu Jun 17, 2021 2:35 am

The roster building has been a disaster but an elite 1A player wins at least one ring the past three years with it :dontknow:
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