Round 1, Game 5: Bucks at Raps - 4/24/17 - 6:00 PM CST - FSN/NBATV

CoachJReturns · Post #141 » by **CoachJReturns** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:38 pm

Raps fan here expecting a win, but really hoping for a loss. Call me an anti-fan or whatever, but I've never cared much for the Lowry + DeMar era. Last year was a lot of fun, but the rest has bored me to tears.
I hope you guys get a big bounce back win tonight by 15+ points, but expect a close win for Raptors. Then I get to see this core for another 4-5 years...Ugh.

kid idioteque · Post #142 » by **kid idioteque** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:38 pm

Raptors win next two, get swept by Cavs.

VooDoo7 · Post #143 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:40 pm

The NBA would obviously rather have a TOR-CLE match-up. Hopefully Silver didn't give the refs 'stern' orders to make sure this happens.

Bucks_MacGyver · Post #144 » by **Bucks_MacGyver** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:45 pm

Biggest game 5 in Bucks history since 2001 ECF game 5.

BucksPackers · Post #145 » by **BucksPackers** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:45 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:The NBA would obviously rather have a TOR-CLE match-up. Hopefully Silver didn't give the refs 'stern' orders to make sure this happens.

Not to sure that the NBA wants the Raps vs Clev. If milwaukee is an up and coming team then im sure the NBA wants to see what they have. Raps are as good as they will ever be they won't get any better with the roster that they have. At least we can get better lol.

BucksPackers · Post #146 » by **BucksPackers** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:46 pm

Bucks_MacGyver wrote:Biggest game 5 in Bucks history since 2001 ECF game 5.

Lol so it is the second biggest game 5 then................

BucksPackers · Post #147 » by **BucksPackers** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:48 pm

If mids is not 100 percent then I don't like our chances in this one. Toronto has been more physical in all but one of the games. We need mids to put in at least 20 to have a chance.

VooDoo7 · Post #148 » by **VooDoo7** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:51 pm

BucksPackers wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:The NBA would obviously rather have a TOR-CLE match-up. Hopefully Silver didn't give the refs 'stern' orders to make sure this happens.

Not to sure that the NBA wants the Raps vs Clev. If milwaukee is an up and coming team then im sure the NBA wants to see what they have. Raps are as good as they will ever be they won't get any better with the roster that they have. At least we can get better lol.

Raps fan base is WAY bigger than ours. That alone means more $, and that's all the NBA cares about. TV ratings.

freewhitemoon · Post #149 » by **freewhitemoon** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:53 pm

of all the matchups the NBA wants to fix I wouldn't be too worried about toronto vs milwaukee, cmon now man....

newerabucks · Post #150 » by **newerabucks** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:53 pm

VooDoo7 wrote:
BucksPackers wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:The NBA would obviously rather have a TOR-CLE match-up. Hopefully Silver didn't give the refs 'stern' orders to make sure this happens.

Not to sure that the NBA wants the Raps vs Clev. If milwaukee is an up and coming team then im sure the NBA wants to see what they have. Raps are as good as they will ever be they won't get any better with the roster that they have. At least we can get better lol.

Raps fan base is WAY bigger than ours. That alone means more $, and that's all the NBA cares about.

Disagree w/ this take. LeBron vs. the next big NBA superstar is more compelling than a nondescript Raptors team. Giannis is right on the cusp of becoming a serious household name and the next big thing - and a semi-finals series would take him that much closer.

Post #151 » by **Prez** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:54 pm

CoachJReturns wrote:Raps fan here expecting a win, but really hoping for a loss. Call me an anti-fan or whatever, but I've never cared much for the Lowry + DeMar era. Last year was a lot of fun, but the rest has bored me to tears.
I hope you guys get a big bounce back win tonight by 15+ points, but expect a close win for Raptors. Then I get to see this core for another 4-5 years...Ugh.

I've posted about it here during this series, and other Raps fans get really pissed when you bring it up. But like what is the long-term plan? Paying Kyle Lowry that supermax, and then likely also Ibaka and/or Tucker basically locks you up into a core that is good but basically has zero shot of winning it all. And with the age of Lowry and Ibaka (?) the window might be smaller than expected, it might not be long before more of the younger teams in the conference pass them up.

I think the Raps win this series but even if they do I think the Raps would just be better off blowing it up, flipping Derozan and whatever else for young assets/picks.

SupremeHustle · Post #152 » by **SupremeHustle** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:56 pm

worthlessBucks wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Right now the only reason Toronto has to L's is because of Snell's Cool J.

(LL COOL J!)

Anyways, Giannis needs to be something like a Phenomenon and Khris needs to Rock the Bells in order for us to win. Get through Toronto and Cleveland would be the only real challenge stopping the Bucks from Going Back to Cali. I could see us Doin' It, but on the road in Toronto, It Gets No Rougher.

They call me Jaws. My hat is like a shark's fin.

More than 1 viewer of Deep Blue Sea, good to know.

Saw it in theaters.

Spoiler:

BucksPackers · Post #153 » by **BucksPackers** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 5:58 pm

newerabucks wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
BucksPackers wrote:

Not to sure that the NBA wants the Raps vs Clev. If milwaukee is an up and coming team then im sure the NBA wants to see what they have. Raps are as good as they will ever be they won't get any better with the roster that they have. At least we can get better lol.

Raps fan base is WAY bigger than ours. That alone means more $, and that's all the NBA cares about.
Disagree w/ this take. LeBron vs. the next big NBA superstar is more compelling than a nondescript Raptors team. Giannis is right on the cusp of becoming a serious household name and the next big thing - and a semi-finals series would take him that much closer.

Exactly what I was saying. Up and coming team vs a team that might be rebuilding soon.

Rockmaninoff · Post #154 » by **Rockmaninoff** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:01 pm

newerabucks wrote:
VooDoo7 wrote:
BucksPackers wrote:

Not to sure that the NBA wants the Raps vs Clev. If milwaukee is an up and coming team then im sure the NBA wants to see what they have. Raps are as good as they will ever be they won't get any better with the roster that they have. At least we can get better lol.

Raps fan base is WAY bigger than ours. That alone means more $, and that's all the NBA cares about.
Disagree w/ this take. LeBron vs. the next big NBA superstar is more compelling than a nondescript Raptors team. Giannis is right on the cusp of becoming a serious household name and the next big thing - and a semi-finals series would take him that much closer.

Yeah, I think the NBA is way more concerned with global star players, than with teams and their regional fan bases.

Everybody wants to see LeBron vs Giannis.

CoachJReturns · Post #155 » by **CoachJReturns** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:04 pm

Prez wrote:
CoachJReturns wrote:Raps fan here expecting a win, but really hoping for a loss. Call me an anti-fan or whatever, but I've never cared much for the Lowry + DeMar era. Last year was a lot of fun, but the rest has bored me to tears.
I hope you guys get a big bounce back win tonight by 15+ points, but expect a close win for Raptors. Then I get to see this core for another 4-5 years...Ugh.

I've posted about it here during this series, and other Raps fans get really pissed when you bring it up. But like what is the long-term plan? Paying Kyle Lowry that supermax, and then likely also Ibaka and/or Tucker basically locks you up into a core that is good but basically has zero shot of winning it all. And with the age of Lowry and Ibaka (?) the window might be smaller than expected, it might not be long before more of the younger teams in the conference pass them up.

I think the Raps win this series but even if they do I think the Raps would just be better off blowing it up, flipping Derozan and whatever else for young assets/picks.

There is no long term plan. None at all. I think the more reasonable Raptors fans are just enjoying the winning seasons while they last, since there have been so very few of them. I mean we basically have had a crap, or completely irrelevant team since the end of the big VC era. So now management is just riding it out and everyone's okay with that.
I'm in the very small minority(probably 5 percent) of fans that see it differently. Last year's conference finals appearance satisfied my desire to see this team not be a joke. It was a fun year. But I understand we beat a mediocre Pacers team and a Heat team that was without Bosh AND Whiteside. So we essentially coasted until we got destroyed by the Cavs. I mean we won 2 games, but we got obliterated in our losses. The 2 wins made the series look way more competitive than it actually was.
I'm ready for a blow up, letting everyone walk and trading DeMar for a top 10 pick, but unless we got destroyed in this series it won't happen. Management is fine with the regular season record/treadmill team situation. Most fans are too apparently as evidenced by our attendance while paying some of the highest ticket prices in the league to watch a non-contender. It sucks, but that's the reality.

DingleJerry · Post #156 » by **DingleJerry** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:05 pm

One thing I thought of if just now if we somehow win this series and play Cle. Cle defense is just awful right now so should lead to high scoring games. Obviously I expect to lose the series but hope to win 1, maybe 2 games. Either way, with the bad defense and high scoring games Giannis will likely have some pretty gaudy stat lines in the series leading to more hype for him and the Bucks going into next year. Which the NBA and Bucks should all like.

Bucknado · Post #157 » by **Bucknado** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:06 pm

Lowry missed shoot around with back stiffness and Cory Joseph is battling a cold.

I missed work with front stiffness.

Go Bucks!

TheWig · Post #158 » by **TheWig** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:07 pm

LedZepp007 wrote:
TheWig wrote:
LedZepp007 wrote:This is the biggest game in 15 years

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I guess everybody forgot about the Atlanta playoff series in 2010

I was at Game 6. Worked out well...

Without Bogut, we weren't doing anything in the second round. This is a bigger game.

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We're not doing anything in the second round if we get through Toronto

Post #159 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:12 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:
worthlessBucks wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:Right now the only reason Toronto has to L's is because of Snell's Cool J.

(LL COOL J!)

Anyways, Giannis needs to be something like a Phenomenon and Khris needs to Rock the Bells in order for us to win. Get through Toronto and Cleveland would be the only real challenge stopping the Bucks from Going Back to Cali. I could see us Doin' It, but on the road in Toronto, It Gets No Rougher.

They call me Jaws. My hat is like a shark's fin.

More than 1 viewer of Deep Blue Sea, good to know.

Saw it in theaters.

Spoiler:
That Samuel L. Jackson death is still hilarious.

Watch on YouTube

I got that DVD as a Valentine's gift from my girlfriend when I was in high school.

This is underrated:

Watch on YouTube

th87 · Post #160 » by **th87** » Mon Apr 24, 2017 6:20 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:Right now the only reason Toronto has to L's is because of Snell's Cool J.

(LL COOL J!)

Anyways, Giannis needs to be something like a Phenomenon and Khris needs to Rock the Bells in order for us to win. Get through Toronto and Cleveland would be the only real challenge stopping the Bucks from Going Back to Cali. I could see us Doin' It, but on the road in Toronto, It Gets No Rougher.

They call me Jaws. My hat is like a shark's fin.

The Bucks won't rest until the clock ticks 4, 3, 2, 1, as the Cavs are Loungin'. The extra rest might Knock Them Out of rhythm, while we come in Headsprung, which could help us pull the upset. Imagine That.