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Head Coaching Candidates - Finalists Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin - Another New Poll Added

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Favorite Finalist?

Nurse
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82%
Atkinson
24
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Griffin
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2%
 
Total votes: 150

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Re: Head Coaching Candidates - Finalists Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin - Another New Poll Added 

Post#1541 » by MVP2110 » Mon May 22, 2023 5:31 pm

JayMKE wrote:Atkinson seems even more of a stubborn non in-game coach than Budenholzer, don't get it other than contrarian choice. That's doubling down. Nurse is the only correct choice, always has been.


This, if you didn't like Bud's in game adjustment ability you really won't like Atkinson
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Post#1542 » by buckboy » Mon May 22, 2023 5:41 pm

MVP2110 wrote:1. Nurse

Huge gap

2. Atkinson

Griffin's domestic violence past should be an automatic disqualifier imo


I would agree with this post, but I'm not sure that Adrian Griffin has a DV past. I'm not saying he doesn't, but I think it is very possible that the allegations were BS in this case. And I know for a fact that the Bucks know far more about the situation than I do, so I'll give them/Griffin the benefit of the doubt.

My list is the same as above: Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin.
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Post#1543 » by tedbrogen » Mon May 22, 2023 5:41 pm

Isn’t the hope that Atkinson will be a better coach after working under Kerr? I mean, Kerr does make in game adjustments. He might let Draymon run a bit too wild but Kerr doesn’t let his players just play random on offense.

But yeah, I want Nurse.
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Post#1544 » by Frank Nova » Mon May 22, 2023 5:42 pm

Voted for Nurse. He’s a X and O tactical style coach and holds everyone accountable which is good for a star like Giannis who needs accountability to be prevalent within the organization.
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Post#1545 » by MikeIsGood » Mon May 22, 2023 5:42 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:Many of you were upset when there were no early leaks about Nurse (STUPID HORST, STUPID BUCKS) but were wrong.

Many of you think all we have to do is pay Nurse a lot and he's a lock to come here. That's also wrong.


With you on point one, but unsure on point two. Much like with point one, I'm not believing what we do or do not see in the media reports. I'm still not so sure that this isn't already all but a done deal, and Nurse all along. Maybe not, but it's definitely where my head has been at from day one - and not just based on blind hope (...but also that).
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Post#1546 » by machu46 » Mon May 22, 2023 5:47 pm

buckboy wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:1. Nurse

Huge gap

2. Atkinson

Griffin's domestic violence past should be an automatic disqualifier imo


I would agree with this post, but I'm not sure that Adrian Griffin has a DV past. I'm not saying he doesn't, but I think it is very possible that the allegations were BS in this case. And I know for a fact that the Bucks know far more about the situation than I do, so I'll give them/Griffin the benefit of the doubt.

My list is the same as above: Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin.

I will simply say that I know for a fact Griffin has his demons.


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Post#1547 » by buckboy » Mon May 22, 2023 5:49 pm

machu46 wrote:
buckboy wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:1. Nurse

Huge gap

2. Atkinson

Griffin's domestic violence past should be an automatic disqualifier imo


I would agree with this post, but I'm not sure that Adrian Griffin has a DV past. I'm not saying he doesn't, but I think it is very possible that the allegations were BS in this case. And I know for a fact that the Bucks know far more about the situation than I do, so I'll give them/Griffin the benefit of the doubt.

My list is the same as above: Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin.

I will simply say that I know for a fact Griffin has his demons.


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And I will also say that there are things I may not be aware of. I'm commenting strictly on the August/2020 allegations by his ex-wife. If there's more I'd be interested to learn what the "more" may be. Or maybe I wouldn't.
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Re: Head Coaching Candidates - Finalists Nurse/Atkinson/Griffin - Another New Poll Added 

Post#1548 » by paulpressey25 » Mon May 22, 2023 5:55 pm

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With you on point one, but unsure on point two. Much like with point one, I'm not believing what we do or do not see in the media reports. I'm still not so sure that this isn't already all but a done deal, and Nurse all along. Maybe not, but it's definitely where my head has been at from day one - and not just based on blind hope (...but also that).


Yep. Had been told Bud was the guy back in March(?) when he worked his way out of Atlanta. And then two months later, there were couple selective leaks that Bud was in the running for other jobs. But at the end of the day? Bud.

That's how Edens did it five years ago. Have full confidence it is what's happening now with Nick Nurse.

Edens used the time to negotiate specifics, get Giannis on board, and interview a bunch of people to ask their opinions about how to fix things with the team.
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Post#1549 » by Ron Swanson » Mon May 22, 2023 5:56 pm

Don't really get this constant obsession with "adjustments" and the confidence in which some people speak about identifying who's good at said in-game adjusting. Like, at a certain point you're literally just describing a head coach's job (doing stuff in the middle of a game) and it becomes such a meaningless and subjective term. What are the adjustment criticisms about Atkinson that I'm missing? That he didn't (or couldn't) scream enough at D'Angelo Russell to stop shooting in a playoff game 4-years ago against a superiorly talented Sixers team? Should he have taken Allen off Embiid and start trapping/spamming double teams? We need some specifics here.
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Post#1550 » by Matches Malone » Mon May 22, 2023 5:59 pm

JayMKE wrote:Atkinson seems even more of a stubborn non in-game coach than Budenholzer, don't get it other than contrarian choice. That's doubling down. Nurse is the only correct choice, always has been.


Coaching isn’t done in a vacuum. People have room to grow as coaches. Seems short sighted to label him already.
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Post#1551 » by Turk Nowitzki » Mon May 22, 2023 6:00 pm

I have no clue what VanVleet's relationship was like with Nurse or Griffin but it's at least a little interesting to me that we made a push for him at the deadline and now are shortlisting two Raptors guys as potential coaches.
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Post#1552 » by MVP2110 » Mon May 22, 2023 6:04 pm

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JayMKE wrote:Atkinson seems even more of a stubborn non in-game coach than Budenholzer, don't get it other than contrarian choice. That's doubling down. Nurse is the only correct choice, always has been.


Coaching isn’t done in a vacuum. People have room to grow as coaches. Seems short sighted to label him already.


If we all agree that the #1 issue we needed to solve for was in game playoff adjustments then Kenny is basically as good as any random assistant coach because we've never seen him do that
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Post#1553 » by chonestown » Mon May 22, 2023 6:04 pm

Surprised there hasn't been more talk about Griffin in this thread. Wonder if he's the fallback option if Nurse goes elsewhere. Time spent as the lead to Nurse, tenures under defensive hardasses Skiles and Thibs, Milwaukee connection. Ticks off a lot of boxes.
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Post#1554 » by WuTang_CMB » Mon May 22, 2023 6:05 pm

Nurse is perfect fit for your club. Can lead a veteran group and produce. His greatest strength is in playoff adjustments and figuring out team's weaknesses. Your club has experience, shooting, role definition and defenders. His offensive system isn't the greatest and allows for a lot of freedom but it works with a Veteran club with talent. He also doesn't have to develop players. Having a superstar in Giannis and more importantly knowing his weaknesses will help him counter those against the top teams who try to exploit them. Great fit overall and I'd be shocked if he wasn't chosen.
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Post#1555 » by ReasonablySober » Mon May 22, 2023 6:05 pm

I would say the #1 issue by far is building an elite offense in the half-court.
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Post#1556 » by MVP2110 » Mon May 22, 2023 6:06 pm

chonestown wrote:Surprised there hasn't been more talk about Griffin in this thread. Wonder if he's the fallback option if Nurse goes elsewhere. Time spent as the lead to Nurse, tenures under defensive hardasses Skiles and Thibs, Milwaukee connection. Ticks off a lot of boxes.


It does feel like to me that Griffin is the fallback if Nurse says no
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Post#1557 » by chonestown » Mon May 22, 2023 6:09 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
chonestown wrote:Surprised there hasn't been more talk about Griffin in this thread. Wonder if he's the fallback option if Nurse goes elsewhere. Time spent as the lead to Nurse, tenures under defensive hardasses Skiles and Thibs, Milwaukee connection. Ticks off a lot of boxes.


It does feel like to me that Griffin is the fallback if Nurse says no


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Post#1558 » by Matches Malone » Mon May 22, 2023 6:10 pm

MVP2110 wrote:
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JayMKE wrote:Atkinson seems even more of a stubborn non in-game coach than Budenholzer, don't get it other than contrarian choice. That's doubling down. Nurse is the only correct choice, always has been.


Coaching isn’t done in a vacuum. People have room to grow as coaches. Seems short sighted to label him already.


If we all agree that the #1 issue we needed to solve for was in game playoff adjustments then Kenny is basically as good as any random assistant coach because we've never seen him do that

I think you’re being irrationally obtuse on him because he’s not your first choice. He clearly made the right adjustments to take the horrible nets team further than it should have gone.
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Post#1559 » by MVP2110 » Mon May 22, 2023 6:14 pm

Matches Malone wrote:
MVP2110 wrote:
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Coaching isn’t done in a vacuum. People have room to grow as coaches. Seems short sighted to label him already.


If we all agree that the #1 issue we needed to solve for was in game playoff adjustments then Kenny is basically as good as any random assistant coach because we've never seen him do that

I think you’re being irrationally obtuse on him because he’s not your first choice. He clearly made the right adjustments to take the horrible nets team further than it should have gone.


He put in a good system but he rarely deviated from that, actually in a very similar manner to Bud although Bud actually deviated more than Kenny did. Also again it's a myth that he constantly overachieved with them, he did in 1 of his 4 seasons but his other 3 were either at expectations or worse. And we have zero clue how he would do as a playoff coach
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Post#1560 » by soxperry » Mon May 22, 2023 6:16 pm

WuTang_OG wrote:Nurse is perfect fit for your club. Can lead a veteran group and produce. His greatest strength is in playoff adjustments and figuring out team's weaknesses. Your club has experience, shooting, role definition and defenders. His offensive system isn't the greatest and allows for a lot of freedom but it works with a Veteran club with talent. He also doesn't have to develop players. Having a superstar in Giannis and more importantly knowing his weaknesses will help him counter those against the top teams who try to exploit them. Great fit overall and I'd be shocked if he wasn't chosen.


See, this is where i think we have problems that Nurse cannot solve. For one, while we do have offensive talent, its not as robust as most of the other contenders. Low iq, cant create, and the 3 pointers dont seem to fall in the playoffs.

Meanwhile, we are also kind of a mirage on defense outside of Jrue and Giannis. Too many old players, not enough athleticism, cant stay in front of elite fast players, Brook is solid but overrated on D.

Perhaps Bud should get more credit for consistently making these guys look way better than they are in the regular season. I dont know if Nurse can fix what seem to be deeply entrenched roster flaws.

I bet he can turn Marjon into a good defender though, so that's something.

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