Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million

[MickeyDavis]

Am I seeing this right, that the Bucks vs Memphis is on TNT this Tuesday?

Weird but true. Also on Bally's. I'm guessing Marques isn't doing preseason so probably Novak

[ShootingtheJ]

Yea Nwora is one of the biggest chuckers I’ve ever seen and even though he’s probably already one of the better shooters in the league, I wouldn’t want him out there other than garbage minutes.

I think you are misusing the term "chucker". That's a player who takes ill advised shots. Nwora makes his shots, he's a scorer, that's a good thing.

[Milbucks96]

Yea Nwora is one of the biggest chuckers I’ve ever seen and even though he’s probably already one of the better shooters in the league, I wouldn’t want him out there other than garbage minutes.

I don't think you understand the term "chucker". That's a player who takes I'm advised shots. Nwora is a shot maker, that's a good thing.

Maybe I don’t. I do know that whenever he gets his hands on the ball, he’s getting a shot up. Chucker, ball hog, player with terrible shot selection lol call it whatever you want. I know that’s your guy and I admit he might be one of the better shooters already. Maybe he would look good next to some starters but I just don’t see it with him.

[theFireBlanket]

I think that Jordan is definitely on the right team to become a good player. He's surrounded by guys that will hold him accountable.

[ShootingtheJ]

Yea Nwora is one of the biggest chuckers I’ve ever seen and even though he’s probably already one of the better shooters in the league, I wouldn’t want him out there other than garbage minutes.

I don't think you understand the term "chucker". That's a player who takes I'm advised shots. Nwora is a shot maker, that's a good thing.

Maybe I don’t. I do know that whenever he gets his hands on the ball, he’s getting a shot up. Chucker, ball hog, player with terrible shot selection lol call it whatever you want. I know that’s your guy and I admit he might be one of the better shooters already. Maybe he would look good next to some starters but I just don’t see it with him.

What don't you like? You don't like highly efficient scoring? How is talking shots you consistently make poor shot selection?

[MVP2110]

I think Nwora is probably the 11th or 12th man in the rotation to start the year. As in I don't expect him to get minutes but if there is an injury to someone or for sure 2 guys then he'll have his chance at real minutes. Then again when donte comes back he'll be knocked back a peg

[emunney]

Folks, 6 assists is very few assists given how much he had the ball in his hands in that game. And what about... the *other* games?

He shouldn't get the ball unless he should shoot the ball. More bad than good will come from any other kind of touch.

[PANDEMONEUM]

went to the scrimmage.
no Hood, Semi, Giannis.

Giorgos is smaller than i thought.
idk if he can play SF even.

JOB isnt good. hes not going to make the team.
maybe Semis injury is major enough, only reason i can see job getting the spot.

everyone missed open shots.
a bit annoying.

i saw some new plays, kind of exciting that we even ran plays.
been asking for more sets since yr 1 with Bud

[DrWood]

I don't think you understand the term "chucker". That's a player who takes I'm advised shots. Nwora is a shot maker, that's a good thing.

Maybe I don’t. I do know that whenever he gets his hands on the ball, he’s getting a shot up. Chucker, ball hog, player with terrible shot selection lol call it whatever you want. I know that’s your guy and I admit he might be one of the better shooters already. Maybe he would look good next to some starters but I just don’t see it with him.

What don't you like? You don't like highly efficient scoring? How is talking shots you consistently make poor shot selection?

While it's not as bad as basing an opinion on his very small sample of summer league games where he was highly inefficient, it's pretty bad to assume he will be efficient based on a small sample of largely garbage-time minutes in his rookie year.
At best you can be hopeful, but I don't see how he's going to get any minutes this year unless probably multiple players on the roster are injured or cut.

[PANDEMONEUM]

jrue, hill
allen, pat
midds
G, than,
brook, portis
9 man rotation, easy
donte, hood, eventually when they get healthy
sandro doesnt look like a liability. could b ok with the starters
giorgios maybe some scrub mins, along with nwora and semi

[drone3]

went to the scrimmage.
no Hood, Semi, Giannis.

Giorgos is smaller than i thought.
idk if he can play SF even.

JOB isnt good. hes not going to make the team.
maybe Semis injury is major enough, only reason i can see job getting the spot.

everyone missed open shots.
a bit annoying.

i saw some new plays, kind of exciting that we even ran plays.
been asking for more sets since yr 1 with Bud

Is it Semis hip injury from Jrues screen 6 months back? Or a different injury?

[ShootingtheJ]

Maybe I don’t. I do know that whenever he gets his hands on the ball, he’s getting a shot up. Chucker, ball hog, player with terrible shot selection lol call it whatever you want. I know that’s your guy and I admit he might be one of the better shooters already. Maybe he would look good next to some starters but I just don’t see it with him.

What don't you like? You don't like highly efficient scoring? How is talking shots you consistently make poor shot selection?

While it's not as bad as basing an opinion on his very small sample of summer league games where he was highly inefficient, it's pretty bad to assume he will be efficient based on a small sample of largely garbage-time minutes in his rookie year.
At best you can be hopeful, but I don't see how he's going to get any minutes this year unless probably multiple players on the roster are injured or cut.

He started a couple games, played big minutes in another, and his start lines actually improved in those games.

He's definitely in the rotation this year. Who would be ahead of him?

[leroyjw10]

What don't you like? You don't like highly efficient scoring? How is talking shots you consistently make poor shot selection?

While it's not as bad as basing an opinion on his very small sample of summer league games where he was highly inefficient, it's pretty bad to assume he will be efficient based on a small sample of largely garbage-time minutes in his rookie year.
At best you can be hopeful, but I don't see how he's going to get any minutes this year unless probably multiple players on the roster are injured or cut.

He started a couple games, played big minutes in another, and his start lines actually improved in those games.

He's definitely in the rotation this year. Who would be ahead of him?

I like Nwora and would like to see him get real minutes with guys like Jrue, Midds, and Giannis to figure out if he can fit in as a complementary player. But if everyone is healthy, I don't see him getting any backup 2/3 minutes ahead of Grayson or Patty. His best bet would be backup 4 minutes, but I think Semi will get the first shot at those minutes. And Semi being good enough to hold down those minutes is probably best long term for the Bucks.

[Brewhoopfan]

What don't you like? You don't like highly efficient scoring? How is talking shots you consistently make poor shot selection?

While it's not as bad as basing an opinion on his very small sample of summer league games where he was highly inefficient, it's pretty bad to assume he will be efficient based on a small sample of largely garbage-time minutes in his rookie year.
At best you can be hopeful, but I don't see how he's going to get any minutes this year unless probably multiple players on the roster are injured or cut.

He started a couple games, played big minutes in another, and his start lines actually improved in those games.

He's definitely in the rotation this year. Who would be ahead of him?

Giannis
Khris
Jrue
Lopez
Allen
DDV (when healthy)
Portis
Pat
Hill

At best, Jordan is the 10th man if, IF, he can beat out Semi, Hood, and Thanasis. I'd like to see Jordan's shooting play as well, but last year he couldn't even beat out Thanasis. On the other hand, it wouldn't surprise me one bit to see Bud put the regular season on cruise control and go really deep into his bench on a regular basis.

[Badgerlander]

That'd be pretty alright for the min.

A dude that can step in and randomly score 15-20 while not sinking your team..that'll do

Rudy Gay has averaged just over 10ppg the last 4 years. So a guy that can come in and randomly put up 10-12 points while also not being a defensive stalwart. Basically I’m just hoping Hood still has a midrange game for when Mids isn’t on the floor.

And while averaging 10-12 points a game Gay has randomly given his team 15-20 points multiples times.

Semantics are fun. An effective veteran on a minimum deal is very valuable. Hood may be done but he is young enough and was good enough not that long ago that the move could pay off very well. Considering that the team doesn't need him to produce, it seems like a pretty good risk/lottery ticket to me.

Gotcha, I see lottery and I’m thinking that you meant the potential of a lottery pick level player not a scratch off, lol. My bad. I liked Hood pre injury, hope he gets back into form.

[BucksFanSD]

went to the scrimmage.
no Hood, Semi, Giannis.

Giorgos is smaller than i thought.
idk if he can play SF even.

JOB isnt good. hes not going to make the team.
maybe Semis injury is major enough, only reason i can see job getting the spot.

everyone missed open shots.
a bit annoying.

i saw some new plays, kind of exciting that we even ran plays.
been asking for more sets since yr 1 with Bud

Thanks for the recap. Were there no other positives from the scrimmage other than the new plays ran?

[Turk Nowitzki]

Have there been any further updates on Bobby? Saw a tweet that he left the scrimmage with an injury (hamstring?) and then nothing since then.

[averageposter]

Could be the high of the chip, could be the new puppy sucking up all my time, but I have not been voraciously following the Training camp news as I usually do. So I ask what is the latest on DDV, All I could find with google, is a update from aldridge behind a paywall, in late September that basically said he hadn't been cleared for camp yet. I wasn't sure if I should read into yet. I also realized that I really only know he had ankle surgery on ligament damage, and never really established a normal recovery timeframe for whatever the specific procedure was.

[Turk Nowitzki]

What don't you like? You don't like highly efficient scoring? How is talking shots you consistently make poor shot selection?

While it's not as bad as basing an opinion on his very small sample of summer league games where he was highly inefficient, it's pretty bad to assume he will be efficient based on a small sample of largely garbage-time minutes in his rookie year.
At best you can be hopeful, but I don't see how he's going to get any minutes this year unless probably multiple players on the roster are injured or cut.

He started a couple games, played big minutes in another, and his start lines actually improved in those games.

He's definitely in the rotation this year. Who would be ahead of him?

Did a double take on this line. We're still talking about Jordan Nwora here, right?

There's literally nothing to suggest that he's "definitely in the rotation", especially if everyone's healthy. Bud has a lot of options.

[crkone]

Could be the high of the chip, could be the new puppy sucking up all my time, but I have not been voraciously following the Training camp news as I usually do. So I ask what is the latest on DDV, All I could find with google, is a update from aldridge behind a paywall, in late September that basically said he hadn't been cleared for camp yet. I wasn't sure if I should read into yet. I also realized that I really only know he had ankle surgery on ligament damage, and never really established a normal recovery timeframe for whatever the specific procedure was.

The team knows the schedule and said he's ahead of it but wouldn't give a definite time frame. That's from straight from the Horst's mouth.