Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Joe Johnson workout, pg 97

[SupremeHustle]

A. Using the current Bucks roster and cap situation, build a championship team that has Donte starting as the shooting guard.

B. Now use the same situation, but you can trade Donte.

Which one was easier A or B?

[emunney]

The hope has got to be some sort of junk for junk trade when the junk coming our way miraculously clicks into place, like the Warrick and Joe Alexander for Salmons deal that sparked the Fear the Deer run by filling a gaping hole on the wing and also allowing Ersan and LRMAM to form a super effective PF platoon.

So like Craig and DJW for ?

The key to the Salmons trade was we got value for taking Salmons cap money off the Bulls, so they could pursue Bosh and Wade.

Of course ironically, Salmons outplayed his remaining $6.5mm year left on his contract, and opted out with us.

So, to extract the value you got from Salmons, we’ve got to take longer money back, than we send out.

Yep, that's what I've been looking for. This is actually desirable for us, imo, since if it doesn't work out we can then try it again next year. I don't really see anything with the particular player combo I noted. Maybe Rodney McGruder?

[tydett]

A. Using the current Bucks roster and cap situation, build a championship team that has Donte starting as the shooting guard.

B. Now use the same situation, but you can trade Donte.

Which one was easier A or B?

In fairness, B is much easier because Donte is the only real asset we have after the Jrue trade. Aside that, we have a lot of players on the poo-poo platter.

[emunney]

A. Using the current Bucks roster and cap situation, build a championship team that has Donte starting as the shooting guard.

B. Now use the same situation, but you can trade Donte.

Which one was easier A or B?

If you believe that Donte isn't capable of starting for a championship team that also starts Giannis, Middleton, and Jrue, what's the alchemy required to turn him into that piece? They're equally easy/hard.

[SupremeHustle]

A. Using the current Bucks roster and cap situation, build a championship team that has Donte starting as the shooting guard.

B. Now use the same situation, but you can trade Donte.

Which one was easier A or B?

If you believe that Donte isn't capable of starting for a championship team that also starts Giannis, Middleton, and Jrue, what's the alchemy required to turn him into that piece? They're equally easy/hard.

I wanna see it.

[drone3]

DJA + DJW for Satoransky

[DingleJerry]

I choose A in that scenario.

Someone mentioned taking the longer bad money back and kind of a reclamation project. That's probably where I'm at, need to hit on something like that, the Tim Hardaway to Dall type trade rings a bell to me. You got value back on him as a bad contract but he actually was a good player if used properly, even if overpaid. If we can find a wing like that or a replacement for Brook like that it helps a lot. Or hitting on a late pick changes our fortunes a bit. Like say Diakite clicks.

[tski1972]

Because fake trades are fun....

[RiotPunch]

#1
MKE: Eric Gordon, JaVale McGee, Malik Monk, David Nwaba
HOU: Cody Zeller, Bismack Biyombo, Pat Connaughton, CHA '21 2nd
CHA: Brook Lopez, P.J. Tucker, DJ Augustin, Bryn Forbes
CLE: D.J. Wilson, IND '25 2nd

#2
MKE: Brunson
DAL: DiVincenzo

Holiday / Brunson
Gordon / Monk
Middleton / Nwaba
Giannis / Buyout
Portis / McGee

[slos]

Gordon is maybe the only "bad contract" that could actually help us.

Gordon and Martin Jr for Augustin, Connaughton, Wilson, Craig is equal money and leaves enough money for one buyout vet. It upgrades our Top 8 going from Pat to Gordon, but leaves the rest of the roster with rookies and Thanasis + vet in between

Holiday.......DiVincenzo....Powell (2-way)
Gordon.......Forbes.........Merrill
Middleton....Thanasis......Martin
Giannis.......Vet.............Nwora
Lopez.........Portis..........Diakite (2-way)

[ShootingtheJ]

Eric Gordon shot 32% from 3 last year, and is shooting 33% from 3 this year, the year everyone else can hit 3s.

He's in the bottom 10 of contracts I'd want on my team.

[ShootingtheJ]

A. Using the current Bucks roster and cap situation, build a championship team that has Donte starting as the shooting guard.

B. Now use the same situation, but you can trade Donte.

Which one was easier A or B?

We need another Donte. If we trade Donte, we'll still need another Donte.

[xTitan]

A. Using the current Bucks roster and cap situation, build a championship team that has Donte starting as the shooting guard.

B. Now use the same situation, but you can trade Donte.

Which one was easier A or B?

I’ll make you this promise, if the Bucks don’t win the NBA championship it won’t be because of Donte and him not executing his role.

[coolhandluke121]

A. Using the current Bucks roster and cap situation, build a championship team that has Donte starting as the shooting guard.

B. Now use the same situation, but you can trade Donte.

Which one was easier A or B?

If you believe that Donte isn't capable of starting for a championship team that also starts Giannis, Middleton, and Jrue, what's the alchemy required to turn him into that piece? They're equally easy/hard.

I wanna see it.

So whom would you prefer, Paul George or Damian Lillard? I'm sure the salaries are close enough.

I mean if DDV is as mediocre as you say, what the heck are they getting for him and his paltry salary? Combine him with bad contracts and who's giving up a missing piece? Combine him with Brook and DJA and win a title with Pat C, Thanasis, Portis, or Forbes as your 5th-best player on any given night? I don't think you've thought this through, but if you're so adamant about, it's up to you to find trades that actually make the team better, are consistent with your take on what you seem to think should be obvious about DDV's value without being ridiculous from the other team's perspective, work under the cap, and don't leave them with literally the worst supporting cast in the history of the NBA playoffs, because it's not as simple as just saying you don't think DDV is as good as some of us think and they should trade him.

[ShootingtheJ]

DJA + DJW for Satoransky

Bucks get: Satoransky
Knicks get: DJA
Bulls get: Ntilikina, DJW, Indy 2025 2nd rounder (via Bucks)

I think we needed to give the Bulls motivation to do this

[SupremeHustle]

A. Using the current Bucks roster and cap situation, build a championship team that has Donte starting as the shooting guard.

B. Now use the same situation, but you can trade Donte.

Which one was easier A or B?

We need another Donte. If we trade Donte, we'll still need another Donte.

Not as a starter in my opinion.

[giannis and 1]

Pat, Wilson, 2 2nds for Bamba

At the draft: Brook, Augustin, 1st, 2nd for Rozier

Extend Holiday.

Bamba/Diakete
Giannis/Portis/Thanasis
Middleton/Nwora
Jrue/DDV/Forbes/Merrill
Rozier/Powell

Would this be cap compliant after Jrue's extended? I'm guessing no?

[SupremeHustle]

Wilson and Donte for Burks.

[Daver]

Wilson and Donte for Burks.

That one i would do

[ShootingtheJ]

Wilson and Donte for Burks.

That one i would do

Burks is a nice offensive player, but that's an awful trade. Terrible asset management. Burks was dealt for a 2nd a year ago, and is now a backup to Reggie Bullock. DDV has so much more value.