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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1701 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:05 pm

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MKE_Beers wrote:I know there's been speculation about this but KoC said on his podcast this morning that signing Robin was part of the deal to bring Brook back.


About 20 games into the season this board is going to sink in to a ton of regret over passing on a potential BroLo sign and trade.

Your key word is potential. Unless you know for a fact deals that we turned down. You don't.
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Post#1702 » by German Athens » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:05 pm

These stats always have a ton of noise, and they’re usually against weaker competition, but they are pretty shocking to me.

Quickley in 14 games without Brunson this past season:
25.8/5.8/6.4 on 45.7/39.5/86.5 with a 3.7 assist to turnover ratio.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1703 » by mg » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:07 pm

RiotPunch wrote:Playing around with the idea that maybe New York would rather have Sexton locked into a team-friendly deal rather than risk overpaying IQ (and in this scenario add Olynyk to soak up Toppin's vacant minutes). Ainge adds another 1st to his war chest (and ~$30M in expirings). We upgrade the backcourt while keeping Bobby/Pat, Fontecchio for fun(tecchio).

MKE: Quickley, Fontecchio
UTA: Fournier, Allen, MKE '29 1st, DET '24 2nd
NYK: Sexton, Olynyk


I agree the Knicks would likely rather have Sexton locked up on a reasonable long term deal especially if they could also dump Fournier. Sexton was CAA until last year when he switched to Klutch so the Knick FO knows him well.

That Quickley contract extension is going to get very messy. The rumor is he wants 5/$125 mil. Honestly not sure the Bucks should be giving up their '29 FRP only to deal with that situation.
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Post#1704 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:11 pm

Is Quickley rumored to be available or is this just wishful thinking?
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Post#1705 » by jimmybones » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:18 pm

jakecronus8 wrote:The sadness has sunk in. They needed a needle moving type bold move and we’re stuck in the Sexton/Powell discussions. This core isn’t winning another title


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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1706 » by lightningrodman » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:18 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Is Quickley rumored to be available or is this just wishful thinking?


Haven't seen any rumors this summer but it would make sense for them to move him. He's due an expensive contract extension and the Knicks have a bit of a roster crunch -- not a ton of minutes or money to go around after Brunson/DDV/Hart/Barrett.
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Post#1707 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:19 pm

Beasley is a high volume career 38% 3 point shooter. .491 from 2, 808 from FT. He can shoot. He’s a good athlete. He definitely has some shot selection and defensive concerns, but I can’t be mad at that addition at the minimum.

That said, hopefully he’s in the rotation but not the starting SG. Still hope we add Sexton.
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Post#1708 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:26 pm

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MKE_Beers wrote:I know there's been speculation about this but KoC said on his podcast this morning that signing Robin was part of the deal to bring Brook back.


About 20 games into the season this board is going to sink in to a ton of regret over passing on a potential BroLo sign and trade.

Your key word is potential. Unless you know for a fact deals that we turned down. You don't.


Sure, the Rockets did a sign and trade for Dillon Brooks, but weren't willing to do a sign and trade for their 1st choice, Lopez? The Rockets traded 2 - 2nds to move Washington and Garuba, but weren't willing to do the same deal with us?

Come on man, what are you trying to do here?
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Post#1709 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:27 pm

Absolute steal to get two legit rotation guys like Beasley and Crowder on those contracts. I'd say I'm surprised at the amount of hand-wringing over a break-glass-in-case-of-emergency 3rd string Center in RoLo, but pessimists gonna pessimist. Not happy about Thanasis likely being back and taking up a roster spot, but other than that no real complaints. Think there's still a good chance that we see a Grayson/Bobby trade happen to round out the roster, and if they can flip Powell here I think that's a slam dunk offseason.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1710 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:27 pm

LUKE23 wrote:Beasley is a high volume career 38% 3 point shooter. .491 from 2, 808 from FT. He can shoot. He’s a good athlete. He definitely has some shot selection and defensive concerns, but I can’t be mad at that addition at the minimum.

That said, hopefully he’s in the rotation but not the starting SG. Still hope we add Sexton.


I'm not an AJ Green guy, but he'd be better in the same role.
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Post#1711 » by jimmybones » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:27 pm

MickeyDavis wrote:I'll counter the Debbie Downers. I'm not sad at all. I, like many here, suffered through the pre Giannis years. Yeah we had the one FTD year but we weren't close to contenders. We had one great year under Karl and then it imploded immediately. Before that was the Dunleavy years. Can this core win another title? That remains to be seen.

But if you want to be sad, take a trip down memory lane. I can't wait for the home opener.


It’s not an exciting hot take to say it remains to be seen but it’s the truth. The “this core will never win another title” crowd is mind boggling to me.

Who is a championship contending roster then?

The Bucks are not in the top 5 teams of having a realistic shot of winning it?

Again, I can see wanting to go a different direction but “running it back” with this core is not some absurd notion and it’s not a hopeless venture. A lot of things have to go right to win it all but to act like the Bucks aren’t in that mix of teams where it’s possible is crazy talk.
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Post#1712 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:30 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Absolute steal to get two legit rotation guys like Beasley and Crowder on those contracts. I'd say I'm surprised at the amount of hand-wringing over a break-glass-in-case-of-emergency 3rd string Center in RoLo, but pessimists gonna pessimist. Not happy about Thanasis likely being back and taking up a roster spot, but other than that no real complaints. Think there's still a good chance that we see a Grayson/Bobby trade happen to round out the roster, and if they can flip Powell here I think that's a slam dunk offseason.


In a vacuum I’d rather keep Pat than Bobby, but based on the current roster I think an Allen/Pat trade makes more sense. Still hoping for Sexton.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1713 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:31 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Starting to think ShootingtheJ is Gery Woelful...


I don't remember being excited about Jabari being on the summer league roster.
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Post#1714 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:35 pm

beasley and rolo and bringing back crowder are all solid moves for the money imo

jrue/
allen/ beasley/ green
mids/ pc/ marjon
giannis/ jae
lopez/ portis/ lopez

3 rookies plus thanasis is 16

dont we have room for 1 more?
who am i forgetting that fills us up?
have we heard anything on goran or wes one way or the other?
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Post#1715 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:38 pm

The Sexton thing is tough. What is he worth? How much better will he get? What position is he? He can score points, and he hustles. Despite his hustle, he's been a bad defender. Size wise, his 8' 2 1/2" standing reach makes him bigger than Grayson, but still too small for switching. He's a scorer and does it efficiently, but isn't a passer.

The biggest thing is his team has never been better with him on the floor, not even the year he scored 24 ppg. Will that change with experience? He's the most confusing player in the league.
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Post#1716 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:42 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:beasley and rolo and bringing back crowder are all solid moves for the money imo

jrue/
allen/ beasley/ green
mids/ pc/ marjon
giannis/ jae
lopez/ portis/ lopez

3 rookies plus thanasis is 16

dont we have room for 1 more?
who am i forgetting that fills us up?
have we heard anything on goran or wes one way or the other?


AJ Green only received a 2 way tender, which can be rescinded. We've done that in the past. I think they'll make some decisions with 2 way guys during summer league.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1717 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:42 pm

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About 20 games into the season this board is going to sink in to a ton of regret over passing on a potential BroLo sign and trade.

Your key word is potential. Unless you know for a fact deals that we turned down. You don't.


Sure, the Rockets did a sign and trade for Dillon Brooks, but weren't willing to do a sign and trade for their 1st choice, Lopez? The Rockets traded 2 - 2nds to move Washington and Garuba, but weren't willing to do the same deal with us?

Come on man, what are you trying to do here?

Who did Houston offer us for Brook in the sign and trade?
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Post#1718 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:42 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:The Sexton thing is tough. What is he worth? How much better will he get? What position is he? He can score points, and he hustles. Despite his hustle, he's been a bad defender. Size wise, his 8' 2 1/2" standing reach makes him bigger than Grayson, but still too small for switching. He's a scorer and does it efficiently, but isn't a passer.

The biggest thing is his team has never been better with him on the floor, not even the year he scored 24 ppg. Will that change with experience? He's the most confusing player in the league.


Well the one thing besides the pretty efficient scoring, solid 3 ball, and good isolation ability (useful in playoffs) is that I think he’s talented enough ball handler to be a lead ball handler. That has been a massive weakness on this team for years. I think you can start Sexton next to Jrue but stagger them somewhat as well. Sexton can be the lead ball handler late - he’s a better iso player than Jrue and it will allow Jrue to rest more for defense.

But really the reason I do it, assuming we don’t have to throw a 1st in, is that it’s worth the risk to add some U25 talent if all we are giving up is a couple non top 4 guys. Sextons contract now looks like a steal compared to 72 hours ago.
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Post#1719 » by emunney » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:43 pm

I'd give up multiple picks for Quickley before I'd include one or a rotation player for Sexton.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1720 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 3:43 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:The Sexton thing is tough. What is he worth? How much better will he get? What position is he? He can score points, and he hustles. Despite his hustle, he's been a bad defender. Size wise, his 8' 2 1/2" standing reach makes him bigger than Grayson, but still too small for switching. He's a scorer and does it efficiently, but isn't a passer.

The biggest thing is his team has never been better with him on the floor, not even the year he scored 24 ppg. Will that change with experience? He's the most confusing player in the league.


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