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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1761 » by Daver » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:31 pm

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Badgerlander wrote:I would only give up a first for a player on a rookie deal like Quickley because you’ve got him for at least five years. Sexton for only 3 years and the probability that he is best as a sixth man not worth a first.
That said second rounders are now 2mil per for four years (two gtd) makes them a lot more valuable these days


Quickley is an RFA after this season and due a massive contract. It’s the main reason the Knicks would move him.

Sexton is signed for three years on a reasonable deal.




Sexton is not a 6th man your getting him to start not come off the bench
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Post#1762 » by LUKE23 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:32 pm

I’m keeping Marjon/AJJ/future 1sts out of that trade. Not saying I wouldn’t move those pieces, just not for Sexton. Combo of Portis/Pat/Allen and/or distant 2nd rounders then I’m willing to roll the dice on his talent and hope AG’s coaching can integrate him.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1763 » by lightningrodman » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:33 pm

That NBA Insider Goat account also said that the Robin Lopez signing was because they want Bobby to play exclusively at the 4 and needed a rim protector for those lineups — to me this strains credulity
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1764 » by vtime » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:33 pm

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vtime wrote:
Plossum wrote:Beasley is a good get. I doubt we get much from him but it’s worth a shake for the min.


He’s been a 20ppg scorer when given big minutes on high efficiency shooting. What’s to doubt?


His play the last two years is what adds doubt.


You didn’t watch him last yr in Utah then.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1765 » by Couch Potato » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:35 pm

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You need the 2029 first to combine with more firsts beyond that down the road. We’re in the spot we are right now because we don’t have firsts we can trade for quite a while that we’d need to make a blockbuster trade. Trading one now would just be kicking the can down the road even further, and we cannot afford to do that.


2029 is 6 years out. Giannis isn't gonna wait until the team falls apart. It's now or never. Bucks are to predictable last 3 or 4 years. Same players almost. Heck almost same team yet again barring two rookies and a new coach. Middleton and Brook older and paid more. Yeah we lost Carter and Ingles. But landed Malik and Robin. Still need a Bobby,Pat,Allen and 2029 first trade for something good yet.


It’s incredibly short sighted to trade a first in a year Giannis isn’t even under contract (and would be old if he is) for a marginal asset. The Bucks 2029 first is valuable, let alone the opportunity cost of not having it when the opportunity to trade for an actual superstar opens up.

There’s just no way to rationalize trading a first that far out for Sexton when you’re attaching good players to the deal as well. We’d be losing key players in our rotation AND one of our few trade assets for a non All Star, with zero ability to replace those players because we’re stuck paying guys league minimum in a non-destination city.

Imagine we trade our 2029 first and next year SGA becomes available, but we’re out of the race completely because we burned that pick on Sexton.


2029 first is only valuable if Giannis is retired or on another team then full tank mode.
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Post#1766 » by vtime » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:36 pm

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jakecronus8 wrote:Wasting roster spots for Brook Lopez nepotism? Smh. Not a great look.

Letting him walk? Way worse look


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Sign and trading him, and then building a roster built for the playoffs? Way better look.

Having $27 million spent on centers that are useless come playoff time hasn't worked in the past, and won't work now, and that doesn't even include Bobby.


Lopez is not useless in the playoffs. In the conference finals versus ATL with Giannis out, Lopez saved our season and we won the title. Stop this blasphemy
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Post#1767 » by Couch Potato » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:52 pm

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vtime wrote:
Plossum wrote:Beasley is a good get. I doubt we get much from him but it’s worth a shake for the min.


He’s been a 20ppg scorer when given big minutes on high efficiency shooting. What’s to doubt?


With a fast and confident release.

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Post#1768 » by Badgerlander » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:54 pm

tedbrogen wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:I would only give up a first for a player on a rookie deal like Quickley because you’ve got him for at least five years. Sexton for only 3 years and the probability that he is best as a sixth man not worth a first.
That said second rounders are now 2mil per for four years (two gtd) makes them a lot more valuable these days


Quickley is an RFA after this season and due a massive contract. It’s the main reason the Knicks would move him.

Sexton is signed for three years on a reasonable deal.


I think Quickley’s defense is worth a massive contract. Sexton is reasonable if he continues to improve but his best statistical season he played mostly off the bench and at less than starter minutes. I suppose his deal aligns with our stars but I’m more a believer in Q. Q reached out to Jrue last year to discuss the finer points of defense
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1769 » by Badgerlander » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:56 pm

Daver wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:I would only give up a first for a player on a rookie deal like Quickley because you’ve got him for at least five years. Sexton for only 3 years and the probability that he is best as a sixth man not worth a first.
That said second rounders are now 2mil per for four years (two gtd) makes them a lot more valuable these days


Quickley is an RFA after this season and due a massive contract. It’s the main reason the Knicks would move him.

Sexton is signed for three years on a reasonable deal.




Sexton is not a 6th man your getting him to start not come off the bench


Ideally yes, and maybe he does start but probably doesn’t finish close games
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Post#1770 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:58 pm

vtime wrote:
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LedZepp007 wrote:Letting him walk? Way worse look


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Sign and trading him, and then building a roster built for the playoffs? Way better look.

Having $27 million spent on centers that are useless come playoff time hasn't worked in the past, and won't work now, and that doesn't even include Bobby.


Lopez is not useless in the playoffs. In the conference finals versus ATL with Giannis out, Lopez saved our season and we won the title. Stop this blasphemy


He destroyed us 2 years in a row.
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Post#1771 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:58 pm

MarJon becoming a solid rotation piece would be huge. I'm skeptical but hopeful. But if he doesn't shine onFriday he's a bust.
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Post#1772 » by crowhead76 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:58 pm

lightningrodman wrote:That NBA Insider Goat account also said that the Robin Lopez signing was because they want Bobby to play exclusively at the 4 and needed a rim protector for those lineups — to me this strains credulity


That same account also followed up later by saying Lopez would not see significant minutes this year.
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Post#1773 » by Milbucks96 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 8:59 pm

Marjon should be considered in any trade. He’s raw and will be 23 by the time the season starts. I know he can still develop but I have a hard time believing he’ll play playoff minutes next season.
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1774 » by ShootingtheJ » Tue Jul 4, 2023 9:01 pm

vtime wrote:
Ayt wrote:
vtime wrote:
He’s been a 20ppg scorer when given big minutes on high efficiency shooting. What’s to doubt?


His play the last two years is what adds doubt.


You didn’t watch him last yr in Utah then.


An inefficient 53TS% with bad defense in Utah. He has been a bad player for awhile at multiple stops, plus off the court issues.
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Post#1775 » by Matches Malone » Tue Jul 4, 2023 9:04 pm

crowhead76 wrote:
lightningrodman wrote:That NBA Insider Goat account also said that the Robin Lopez signing was because they want Bobby to play exclusively at the 4 and needed a rim protector for those lineups — to me this strains credulity


That same account also followed up later by saying Lopez would not see significant minutes this year.


They started running polls for fans to vote on what piece of insider info they give out next. Feels like they are just engagement farming lol.
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Post#1776 » by Daver » Tue Jul 4, 2023 9:04 pm

Milbucks96 wrote:Marjon should be considered in any trade. He’s raw and will be 23 by the time the season starts. I know he can still develop but I have a hard time believing he’ll play playoff minutes next season.


I agree that word untouchable associated with him is so funny ge hasnt done a dsmn thing yet may never will who knows but holy cow bucks are asses if they woulfnt put him in a trade packsge to upgrade
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1777 » by crowhead76 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 9:05 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
Daver wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
Quickley is an RFA after this season and due a massive contract. It’s the main reason the Knicks would move him.

Sexton is signed for three years on a reasonable deal.




Sexton is not a 6th man your getting him to start not come off the bench


Ideally yes, and maybe he does start but probably doesn’t finish close games


This is where Beauchamp taking a leap this year is incredibly important. A possible closing lineup of Jrue, Marjon, Middleton, Crowder, and Giannis would be ideal.
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Post#1778 » by Matches Malone » Tue Jul 4, 2023 9:06 pm

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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1779 » by crowhead76 » Tue Jul 4, 2023 9:09 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:
vtime wrote:
Ayt wrote:
His play the last two years is what adds doubt.


You didn’t watch him last yr in Utah then.


An inefficient 53TS% with bad defense in Utah. He has been a bad player for awhile at multiple stops, plus off the court issues.




What off the court issues?
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Re: Bucks News, Transactions and Trade Ideas - Beasley on a 1 Year Deal 

Post#1780 » by tedbrogen » Tue Jul 4, 2023 9:11 pm

Badgerlander wrote:
tedbrogen wrote:
Badgerlander wrote:I would only give up a first for a player on a rookie deal like Quickley because you’ve got him for at least five years. Sexton for only 3 years and the probability that he is best as a sixth man not worth a first.
That said second rounders are now 2mil per for four years (two gtd) makes them a lot more valuable these days


Quickley is an RFA after this season and due a massive contract. It’s the main reason the Knicks would move him.

Sexton is signed for three years on a reasonable deal.


I think Quickley’s defense is worth a massive contract. Sexton is reasonable if he continues to improve but his best statistical season he played mostly off the bench and at less than starter minutes. I suppose his deal aligns with our stars but I’m more a believer in Q. Q reached out to Jrue last year to discuss the finer points of defense


Not disputing any of that. Just pointing out your logic of giving up a first for Quickley but not Sexton because Quickley is on a rookie contract is incorrect.

Sure you have RFA rights on Quickley but he can also take the QO, so you’d only get him for two years guaranteed. Or someone can throw a max at him and you either match or lose him for nothing.

If you only want to use a first based on having control of a player longer, Sexton is signed to a longer deal currently.

If it’s about salary, Sexton will be cheaper than Quickley after this season for the following two.

But I see you moved the goalposts already so I digress.

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