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Post#181 » by Licensed to Il » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:46 pm

LOL at the quote that dame was “elated” to be waived and can join a contender. He’s the reason we didn’t contend, more.
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Post#182 » by ReginaldDwight » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:46 pm

The return of Greenfields prodigal son.
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Post#183 » by bdpecore » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:47 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Losing the TPE and full MLE is whatever. I was always skeptical of anyone who thought we were gonna legitimately upgrade the roster with these meager salary exceptions that will almost always net you nothing more than some type of journeyman rotation guy. Leveraging Kuzma's salary plus the 2031 1st was always gonna be the avenue to a legit roster upgrade, and that's become a necessity with these other moves now.


What do you think about Kuz/1st for Herb/Alvarado?


I don't think Herb makes sense anymore with how much we're clearly committed to the Giannis/Turner/Bobby frontcourt. You need a better shooter/offensive creator at wing or guard right now.


DeMar DeRozan seems like the ideal fit for this roster. Yes he’s more of a midrange shooter but is able to create his own shot and for others. His defensive deficiencies can be offset by having two elite rim protectors behind him.

The only other options who might be available are RJ Barrett or Miles Bridges.
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Post#184 » by ABucksFan » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:47 pm

Do we have a spot for Thanasty?
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Post#185 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:49 pm

You guys still like Ryan Dunn? Dunn for Dairy works.
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Post#186 » by CJTURT » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:50 pm

Jabari Walker would be intriguing. Good size . Plays d and can score .
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Post#187 » by drone3 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:51 pm

Roster shaping up. Rollins should be back


KPJ / Rollins? / .....
Green / Harris / Ajax
GTJ / Prince / Livingston
Giannis / Kuzma / Smitty
Miles / Portis / Sims
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Post#188 » by rayallenscalves » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:52 pm

bucksfansince88 wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:So we could trade Kuzma, 31 FRP and 32 swap and bring back up to 30 mil. Who is out there you'd be willing to give up that package for? In the words of a great Bucks fan "GIVE ME NAMES!"


Ingram, Fox, Wiggins, Murphy, Vassell, Barrett, Herro, Barrett, Derozan, Simons.

We need Rich Paul to force Fox here


I would greatly prefer a bigger wing, someone in the 6"7-6"9 range. We've already got our fair share of undersized 2-guards.
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Post#189 » by CJTURT » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:53 pm

rayallenscalves wrote:
bucksfansince88 wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:So we could trade Kuzma, 31 FRP and 32 swap and bring back up to 30 mil. Who is out there you'd be willing to give up that package for? In the words of a great Bucks fan "GIVE ME NAMES!"


Ingram, Fox, Wiggins, Murphy, Vassell, Barrett, Herro, Barrett, Derozan, Simons.

We need Rich Paul to force Fox here


I would greatly prefer a bigger wing, someone in the 6"7-6"9 range. We've already got our fair share of undersized 2-guards.


Jabari Walker. Only 22. Played great in the second half of last season shot 40% from three. Good rebounder and defender
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Post#190 » by BUCKnation » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:57 pm

I will say, I think Horst went way too early with the Harris deal
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Post#191 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:57 pm

bdpecore wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
What do you think about Kuz/1st for Herb/Alvarado?


I don't think Herb makes sense anymore with how much we're clearly committed to the Giannis/Turner/Bobby frontcourt. You need a better shooter/offensive creator at wing or guard right now.


DeMar DeRozan seems like the ideal fit for this roster. Yes he’s more of a midrange shooter but is able to create his own shot and for others. His defensive deficiencies can be offset by having two elite rim protectors behind him.

The only other options who might be available are RJ Barrett or Miles Bridges.


Miles Bridges and KPJ on the same team? :o

Turn Kuzma into Wiggins and Andre Jackson into Kris Dunn, then let Horst relax for a few weeks.
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Post#192 » by drone3 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:57 pm

drone3 wrote:Roster shaping up. Rollins should be back


KPJ / Rollins? / .....
Green / Harris / Ajax
GTJ / Prince / Livingston
Giannis / Kuzma / Smitty
Miles / Portis / Sims
Forgot about Bogi...
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Post#193 » by jimmybones » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:58 pm

Honestly are we just taking Indianas identity lol?

Hali is better than KPJ but he fits the mold of the fast playmaker than can score.

Turner is… Turner

Giannis is Siakim on steroids

Trent, Green, Bobby are solid role players that can knock down shots and play with a face paced offense

If they could play mostly smaller 3 guard lineups backed by Turner/Siakim surely we can do that with Turner/GIANNIS
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - The Wizardry of Jon Horst 

Post#194 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:58 pm

bdpecore wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
What do you think about Kuz/1st for Herb/Alvarado?


I don't think Herb makes sense anymore with how much we're clearly committed to the Giannis/Turner/Bobby frontcourt. You need a better shooter/offensive creator at wing or guard right now.


DeMar DeRozan seems like the ideal fit for this roster. Yes he’s more of a midrange shooter but is able to create his own shot and for others. His defensive deficiencies can be offset by having two elite rim protectors behind him.

The only other options who might be available are RJ Barrett or Miles Bridges.


*shudders*

Please, for the love of god, no.
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Post#195 » by slos » Tue Jul 1, 2025 8:59 pm

BUCKnation wrote:I will say, I think Horst went way too early with the Harris deal


Doesn’t he have the same agent with Turner?
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Post#196 » by BigO » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:00 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:You guys still like Ryan Dunn? Dunn for Dairy works.



I still like Dunn. I like him so much, I'd trade the current second highest paid player on the team for him.

Kuzma for Dunn.
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Post#197 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:01 pm

I just checked. No NBA team with two players named Gary on the roster has ever won a title.
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Post#198 » by GHOSTofSIKMA » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:02 pm

LuessiT wrote:To me, this looks like another desaster. We've turned Jrue Holiday and Khris Middleton + assets into Miles Turner, Kyle Kuzma and 20m dead cap per year. Let that sink in.


add how old ass they were and a young kpj and trent and its a **** home run
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Post#199 » by SupremeHustle » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:04 pm

slos wrote:
BUCKnation wrote:I will say, I think Horst went way too early with the Harris deal


Doesn’t he have the same agent with Turner?


That might explain it. I'm not a huge fan of Harris. Used to be way back in the day. But now, I don't know.

I am surprised to see that he's only 30.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - The Wizardry of Jon Horst 

Post#200 » by M-C-G » Tue Jul 1, 2025 9:05 pm

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
LuessiT wrote:To me, this looks like another desaster. We've turned Jrue Holiday and Khris Middleton + assets into Miles Turner, Kyle Kuzma and 20m dead cap per year. Let that sink in.


add how old ass they were and a young kpj and trent and its a **** home run


Turning Kuz salary into a viable SF and then bringing back Rollins feels like a grand slam of an off-season

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