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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#221 » by El Duderino » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:22 am

ReasonablySober wrote:Biggest boom or bust guy in the draft. Swing for the fences. I like it.


Yep
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#222 » by blazza18 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:23 am

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blazza18 wrote:Not playing in SL is disappointing.


it is however, playing in the U20 league is just as good to play some good competition even if its not for the nba SL


Oh yea true. Just would have liked to see him play with Henson in SL. Would have been entertaining.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#223 » by Thunder Muscle » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:24 am

Douggystyle29 wrote:Does anybody know if this guy can shoot the ball at all? Like this pick but if he has absolutely no shot, I am leaning towards bust. If he has a decent shot, this guy might be beasty in a few years. Seems a little timid on defense though. Very very exciting pick!!!!!


I think his perimeter shooting is considered a weaknesses at this point. On page 2 there is a video by DX of his strength and weaknesses. Biggest thing is he's raw and physically needs to add bulk.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#224 » by emunney » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:24 am

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emunney wrote:4th year in a row we've picked the top guy on my board.




Actually you had Gobert above him, just sayin :wink:[/quote]

Nope, I amended.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#225 » by ampd » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:25 am

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N8Frog wrote:Obviously don't have to like the pick, but I'm a little surprised by some being so down on a pick that is essentially against everything this organization has done in recent years. They've taken a chance on a guy that could be a home run instead of picking a safer role player. Its the farthest thing from a win now pick.


As a drafter, Hammond does tend to operate in a way which in theory should please most people in this forum.


He has actually gotten really good value in the draft for where we have picked. But we never acquire multiple picks, and his trades and FA moves have been awe inspiring in their futility
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#226 » by Ayt » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:26 am

apdamico wrote:
LUKE23 wrote:
carmelbrownqueen wrote:Tobias is a tweener


Tobias is a basketball player. There is no way to absolve the Redick/Harris trade regardless of the opinions on Hammond overall.

:lol:


What do you disagree with?
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#227 » by ampd » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:27 am

Buckfan76 wrote:Luke 23 do we have to wait until the draft is over? Or can we even trade him? Heck part of me says trade him to NYK for JR Smith?


We basically need him to agree to any trade. We can sign and trade him, or he can accept the QO and then he gets to approve/reject any trade we make with him involved.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#228 » by Ayt » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:27 am

GHOSTofSIKMA wrote:
Ayt wrote:
So what should I look for in terms of potential NBA skills during the summer league?


youre being kind of critical on the guy considering you dont know sht about him.

im in the dark as well. but if the little bit of video ive seen tonight is very intriguing. his measurables are insane. and with those measuables this guy is certainly not some biyombo type if thats what your thinking. i was concerned about his shooting form as my first impression but yet the report also states he can shoot pretty well despite that. i get the sense that as he ages and they clean up the mechanics there that maybe he can be solid. put that with his handle and his size and we may really have something. the foreign part for milwaukee helps too.

im guess im optimistic. this is as close to a hs kobe/garnett pick you can get these days.


I don't know **** about him? Based on what?
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#229 » by europa » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:27 am

ampd wrote:
europa wrote:
N8Frog wrote:Obviously don't have to like the pick, but I'm a little surprised by some being so down on a pick that is essentially against everything this organization has done in recent years. They've taken a chance on a guy that could be a home run instead of picking a safer role player. Its the farthest thing from a win now pick.


As a drafter, Hammond does tend to operate in a way which in theory should please most people in this forum.


He has actually gotten really good value in the draft for where we have picked. But we never acquire multiple picks, and his trades and FA moves have been awe inspiring in their futility


Yup, especially lately. If this kid and Henson pan out it'll be pretty impressive how good his last 4 picks have been.

Course he botched one of them all to hell with a pathetic trade. But still that'll be some fine drafting work.

Like we both said, it's after the draft when the problems often start.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#230 » by ampd » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:31 am

europa wrote:
ampd wrote:
europa wrote:
As a drafter, Hammond does tend to operate in a way which in theory should please most people in this forum.


He has actually gotten really good value in the draft for where we have picked. But we never acquire multiple picks, and his trades and FA moves have been awe inspiring in their futility


Yup, especially lately. If this kid and Henson pan out it'll be pretty impressive how good his last 4 picks have been.

Course he botched one of them all to hell with a pathetic trade. But still that'll be some fine drafting work.

Like we both said, it's after the draft when the problems often start.


With Giannis, Henson, Larry we will have some crazy length. We still need someone who can create their own shot efficiently in isolation situations of course.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#231 » by theFireBlanket » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:31 am

carmelbrownqueen wrote:
blazza18 wrote:
Steve210 wrote:So we traded Tobias who didn't develop fast enough, and pick a raw 18 year old that probably won't be ready to contribute for about 3 years, brilliant!


Basically why I am so confused with this pick lol. This team has nfi what its doing.

Tobias is a tweener
So is Luc Mbah a Moute, and we still have him. And I love LRMAM. Rather have Tobias, LRMAM and Giannis than just the latter two and nothing to show for Tobias when J.J. Redick is gone.

By the way, Hammond only dealt Tobes to get J.J. (flip Gustavo to ATL) & Josh Smith. Danny Ferry screwed him over.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#232 » by Ike » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:31 am

LUKE23 wrote:
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Alright, Luke. I wasn't trying it personal towards anyone on this board. It was just a general comment about some of the posts in this thread. If you can't see why I'd take what Hammond and Drew take with a grain of salt, then I don't know what to tell you.


I fully realize this. I don't know why people feel the need to **** on one of the few optimistic nights of the year for fans of this team. We will have plenty of time for this **** during the season. :D



Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it you who earlier tonight said that people could get bent if they still try and defend Hammond?
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#233 » by msiris » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:32 am

I think this guy will grow out of the SF position. He as grown a lot as of late. The odds are against him and he does not have a lot of experience.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#234 » by Chuck Diesel » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:33 am

Love it. Had to get freaky with the pick here.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#235 » by MikeIsGood » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:34 am

El Duderino wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Biggest boom or bust guy in the draft. Swing for the fences. I like it.


Yep


Yeah, I like it too. Admittedly disappointed we didn't take Schroeder, but I'm over it.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#236 » by Ayt » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:35 am

msiris wrote:I think this guy will grow out of the SF position. He as grown a lot as of late. The odds are against him and he does not have a lot of experience.


We need to hope he learns how to play basketball before we worry about what position he plays.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#237 » by Wise1 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:37 am

Didn't want Shabazz. Very pleased with this pick.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#238 » by MartyConlonOnTheRun » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:37 am

I'm so pissed Hammond didn't waste 2 picks to select the same guy at 15 that everyone on here wanted.
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#239 » by MasterChef » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:37 am

15. Milwaukee Bucks: SF Giannis Antetokounmpo, Greece

The youngest player in the draft has tremendous potential. But there's not a lot known about him. Antetokounmpo may stay in Greece, as is typical for Greek players, for a few years. He has a great wingspan and is a very smooth athlete. He already has shown great handles and reminds scouts of Nicolas Batum. The Bucks could use help on the wings, but this pick is one for the future, possibly even three or four years down the road. Grade: B


When we're in Seattle?

Hope this guy pans out. Our front court could be amazing. Basically, everything everyone has been saying here...
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Re: Milwaukee Bucks Pick Giannis with pick #15 

Post#240 » by Rockmaninoff » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:37 am

GOS, I was going to say the same thing about this being like the 'high school' era.

I love the pick. Extremely young, physical tools, drive.
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