2017 TV/Movie/Book Thread with Spoilers

[Bucksfan28]

Let me know what you think of Marlo, Snoop and Chris

Snoop in the hardware store(s4e1 I believe) is so hilarious. "Yu ernt that buck mayne"

Finished s2 yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it up until the last episode. The cliffhanger with Sobotka going on a rage-induced hunt for the Greek, only to not show even a second of that encounter was insulting. But Frank and Ziggy, despite his propensity for being socially clueless, put on a couple great performances.

Can't wait to see where the Stringer and Avon story goes next.

[jimmybones]

Let me know what you think of Marlo, Snoop and Chris

Snoop in the hardware store(s4e1 I believe) is so hilarious. "Yu ernt that buck mayne"

Finished s2 yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it up until the last episode. The cliffhanger with Sobotka going on a rage-induced hunt for the Greek, only to not show even a second of that encounter was insulting. But Frank and Ziggy, despite his propensity for being socially clueless, put on a couple great performances.

Can't wait to see where the Stringer and Avon story goes next.

You're in for a fun ride. I have a hard time ranking seasons 1/3/4. But 5 is easily the worst for me.

[emunney]

S4 is soul crushing.

[Nowak008]

I'm actually in the middle of plowing through the series again since it's been 4-5 years since I've watched any of the episodes. I liked the second season much more this go around. Carcetti is more of a bitch than I remember at least in the 3rd season. Starting up the 4th season now...I forgot how little/young Michael is in this season WOW.

[humanrefutation]

I can see where you are coming from but I really enjoyed it, I'm a big sci-fi guy and its hard to get a plot twist to surprise me like they did.

Spoiler:

I mean, I started getting an inclination about the plot twist when Louise was dreaming about her daughter and said something to her to the effect of "if you want math, ask your father." Knowing that Ian was an engineer tipped me off that she actually was seeing the future. But yeah, when she asked Costello "who is that girl" in the dream, is only confirmed that suspicion.

But if the language itself was the gift that allowed people to perceive their future possibilities, then why was Louise having these dreams prior to even interacting with Abbott and Costello? Or did learning the language actually impact events prior to meeting A&C(and if so, wouldn't have that caused her to make an assortment of other decisions in her interactions with them?).

It just didn't add up to me. Also - the idea of choosing to have a daughter who is going to die a terrible death at such a young age without telling your husband is absolutely horrifying to me, but that's a different story.

Spoiler:

She starts having the visions as she starts understanding their language, which is understood in essentially the same way. This is why the language is represented by circles - with no actual beginning or end as we think of them but only as part of a whole. Whether or not she's gaining the power solely on her own or because the Aliens are already giving her the power somehow, I don't know.

The moral question is a complicated one but I think the resolution the story takes is a very happy and optimistic one. Remember again that she now is able to see all of time as a whole, so she has information that Ian doesn't have access to. She knows the heartache it will cause but chooses in the end that the joy and love they will both feel is worth it, for both of him.

Spoiler:

The first scene of the movie is her having a vision of her daughter's death, though, prior to her interacting with A&C, so I don't know if that works with the theory that the language enables her to perceive the future.

Further, if learning the language is what is causes her to perceive her entire timeline, I wonder whether other people gain that capacity as they do so as well. Ian seemed on his way to understanding the language - if he does so, can he also perceive his entire timeline? And would that make him feel differently about Hannah or Louise? She's also seen in the last images teaching the language and with a book she published about learning the language. It also seems that the language was adopted as the universal language of the Earth - as noted in her meeting with General Shang. Wouldn't this enable everyone to perceive their futures?

[FrieAaron]

Spoiler:

I mean, I started getting an inclination about the plot twist when Louise was dreaming about her daughter and said something to her to the effect of "if you want math, ask your father." Knowing that Ian was an engineer tipped me off that she actually was seeing the future. But yeah, when she asked Costello "who is that girl" in the dream, is only confirmed that suspicion.

But if the language itself was the gift that allowed people to perceive their future possibilities, then why was Louise having these dreams prior to even interacting with Abbott and Costello? Or did learning the language actually impact events prior to meeting A&C(and if so, wouldn't have that caused her to make an assortment of other decisions in her interactions with them?).

It just didn't add up to me. Also - the idea of choosing to have a daughter who is going to die a terrible death at such a young age without telling your husband is absolutely horrifying to me, but that's a different story.

Spoiler:

She starts having the visions as she starts understanding their language, which is understood in essentially the same way. This is why the language is represented by circles - with no actual beginning or end as we think of them but only as part of a whole. Whether or not she's gaining the power solely on her own or because the Aliens are already giving her the power somehow, I don't know.

The moral question is a complicated one but I think the resolution the story takes is a very happy and optimistic one. Remember again that she now is able to see all of time as a whole, so she has information that Ian doesn't have access to. She knows the heartache it will cause but chooses in the end that the joy and love they will both feel is worth it, for both of him.

Spoiler:

The first scene of the movie is her having a vision of her daughter's death, though, prior to her interacting with A&C, so I don't know if that works with the theory that the language enables her to perceive the future.

Further, if learning the language is what is causes her to perceive her entire timeline, I wonder whether other people gain that capacity as they do so as well. Ian seemed on his way to understanding the language - if he does so, can he also perceive his entire timeline? And would that make him feel differently about Hannah or Louise? She's also seen in the last images teaching the language and with a book she published about learning the language. It also seems that the language was adopted as the universal language of the Earth - as noted in her meeting with General Shang. Wouldn't this enable everyone to perceive their futures?

Spoiler:

I'll have to rewatch to be sure, but I know the movie starts at what we would perceive as the end. Her narration explains how she used to view life and time much differently and we see shots of the book she will end up writing on the heptapod language. I don't remember enough specifics though to remember whether or not those flashbacks/flashforwards would have been before any of this even started.

Not sure on whether or not Ian being able to learn the language would give him any sort of ability or not. I suspect not, and more it's something the aliens were slowly trying to teach her specifically. She does appear to be for one reason or another "the chosen one." Why exactly is something only they know (somehow it prevents the destruction of their homeworld far far in the future.

[BUCKnation]

S4 is soul crushing.

S4 is so good, yet unbelievably depressing in most cases.

[HKPackFan]

Saw John Wick 2. It was fun.


If you like JW1, it's more of the same, MOAR secret assassin society, MOAR head shots. Lots and lots of Head shots.

It's fun. Ending threw me off a little. Keanu looks pretty bad ass shooting people in the head. The movie can be quite ridiculous at times, but no one is watching it for the realism.

Cliche house of mirrors fight scenes are the most cliche thing ever. That was the only thing I was like, are they really going to do this?

Besides that it, it was good fun, but be prepared this one gets a bit more campy.

[Bucksfan28]

Let me know what you think of Marlo, Snoop and Chris

Snoop in the hardware store(s4e1 I believe) is so hilarious. "Yu ernt that buck mayne"

Finished s2 yesterday and thoroughly enjoyed it up until the last episode. The cliffhanger with Sobotka going on a rage-induced hunt for the Greek, only to not show even a second of that encounter was insulting. But Frank and Ziggy, despite his propensity for being socially clueless, put on a couple great performances.

Can't wait to see where the Stringer and Avon story goes next.

You're in for a fun ride. I have a hard time ranking seasons 1/3/4. But 5 is easily the worst for me.

Stringer's reveal about D's murder.. . About time he derailed a bit.

[BMatt07]

I was bored and I didn't have any TV's shows to watch, so I gave Frequency a chance (I was always a fan of the Dennis Quaid movie for some reason). I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised. Kinda corny, but it was entertaining.

[ReasonablySober]

I was bored and I didn't have any TV's shows to watch, so I gave Frequency a chance (I was always a fan of the Dennis Quaid movie for some reason). I have to say, I was pleasantly surprised. Kinda corny, but it was entertaining.

I remember seeing that on a date when it came out. I liked it.

[jakecronus8]

So I was thinking about how SNL often produces the next big comedic movie and/or tv stars and thought about the current cast. In years past, even when the cast is perceived to be pretty bad you'd have a few that stood out and could see becoming stars. Looking at the current cast I can't even find one. I know many will say McKinnon but I have never found her to be funny and I think she gets overrated because they put her in nearly every sketch. Cecily Strong is probably the closest for me.

Also, they need something different for the Weekend Update. Jost is plain cheese and Che is just not meant for a platform like that

[Iheartfootball]

So I was thinking about how SNL often produces the next big comedic movie and/or tv stars and thought about the current cast. In years past, even when the cast is perceived to be pretty bad you'd have a few that stood out and could see becoming stars. Looking at the current cast I can't even find one. I know many will say McKinnon but I have never found her to be funny and I think she gets overrated because they put her in nearly every sketch. Cecily Strong is probably the closest for me.

Also, they need something different for the Weekend Update. Jost is plain cheese and Che is just not meant for a platform like that

I agree with Weekend Update. Jost for me is just okay. The problem is Che. He's too angry. I don't know if it's schtick or that how he actually is but he's awful on W.U.

Cast still seems young to me and needs time for someone (besides McKinnon) to fill the void left by Ferrel, Fallon, Poehler, Fey, etc. No one on the current cast (sans McKinnon - I do like her and find her funny) has that star quality. As a team the show is okay. I do enjoy the 'Inside Socal' skit that Mooney and Bennett do for some reason. Always makes me laugh.

You're right though. None of these cast members could carry an A list movie currently. They are all bit players.

[humanrefutation]

So I was thinking about how SNL often produces the next big comedic movie and/or tv stars and thought about the current cast. In years past, even when the cast is perceived to be pretty bad you'd have a few that stood out and could see becoming stars. Looking at the current cast I can't even find one. I know many will say McKinnon but I have never found her to be funny and I think she gets overrated because they put her in nearly every sketch. Cecily Strong is probably the closest for me.

Also, they need something different for the Weekend Update. Jost is plain cheese and Che is just not meant for a platform like that

Every generation has their folks. In this current iteration, I think the writing has been the challenge, not the acting. Cecily Strong, Kate McKinnon, Bobby Moynihan, Beck Bennett, Vanessa Bayer, and Aidy Bryant generally nail their sketches fairly consistently. Kyle Mooney is great when he's in the right role. Pete Davidson, Mikey Day, Melissa Villasenor, and Sasheer Zamata show flashes of greatness when they're used in the right role. Leslie Jones - as polarizing as she can be - is getting better. Her Trump sketch last week was pretty funny. Kenan is Kenan.

If I had to guess who had major potential to become stars outside of SNL, I'd point to the women (all of them, but especially Cecily, McKinnon, Zamata, and Jones) and Pete Davidson. Davidson, in particular, could become a superstar ala Will Ferrell, or a premier stand up comic. Mikey Day has pretty much secured a job on SNL for as long as he wants - they put him in almost everything these days - but I don't know if he can break out of there into something bigger.

[crkone]

Legion is getting pretty good. Love the creepiness from last night and the last scene with everyone surrounding him in his head.

[Iheartfootball]

If I had to guess who had major potential to become stars outside of SNL, I'd point to the women (all of them, but especially Cecily, McKinnon, Zamata, and Jones) and Pete Davidson. Davidson, in particular, could become a superstar ala Will Ferrell, or a premier stand up comic. Mikey Day has pretty much secured a job on SNL for as long as he wants - they put him in almost everything these days - but I don't know if he can break out of there into something bigger.

I just wanted to point this paragraph and that sentence in particular out. Great analysis. I agree wholeheartedly. This is the first time of my SNL viewing history (22 years?) that I feel like the women are carrying the cast. I also agree on Davidson. He just needs more seasoning. How old is he? Like 22/23? So young. Plenty of time to hone his game.

[ReasonablySober]

Last night's Expanse was a crazy good episode of TV. If you're watching too, the Verge and i09 have interviews with the producers on how it wall went down.

[blazza18]

Last night's Expanse was a crazy good episode of TV. If you're watching too, the Verge and i09 have interviews with the producers on how it wall went down.

Haven't had a chance to watch this weeks ep yet but have caught up. Really good watch. Thanks for the recommendation.


Really digging Legion too. Might be my favourite show on tv atm.

[ReasonablySober]

I just called my local book store. I absolutely need to find out what's happening next. They've got the series and I'm picking it up tonight.

[StickeeFingaz]

Saw Get Out today. Thought it was really, really good.