Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions

LUKE23 · Post #301 » by **LUKE23** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:04 pm

Trading Lopez for Bogdan at this point given the rest of the roster does not make us better.

lvckv · Post #302 » by **lvckv** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:04 pm

If we're paying Pat $3.9m then it was always going to be part of the MLE, I think?

If we re-signed him using early bird rights the max we could pay would be 175% of his last contract, which was $1.6m. That is... not close to $3.9m.

GoldenAntlers · Post #303 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:04 pm

I hope Giannis goes to a likable franchise.

German Athens · Post #304 » by **German Athens** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:05 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:Who would be sent to Sacto to match salaries though? All these shenanigans have made it hard to add up enough outgoing salaries. Are they able to just sign Ersan for the same $7m after waiving him? They actually might be, as it would not be a raise or anything.

Wouldn’t brook work? Brook + Donte or brook + dJ or brook + Donte + dJ

Gianstoppable · Post #305 » by **Gianstoppable** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:06 pm

GoldenAntlers wrote:I hope Giannis goes to a likable franchise.

Hoping Mavs if he does go

mkegb · Post #306 » by **mkegb** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:06 pm

If we trade Brook we have no C!!!

Stop including him...it’s over, Bogdan will be in LA

Post #307 » by **paulpressey25** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:06 pm

ShootingtheJ wrote:It's become infinitely clear that's Buds, not Horst, is in charge. We're bring run exactly like he ran Atlanta his one year in charge.

Our roster will be filled out with Bazemore, Carrol, and Dedmon.

If you told me we were getting all three for min contracts for depth, I might be ok actually.

LUKE23 · Post #308 » by **LUKE23** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:06 pm

The point of landing Bogdan was to put together a studly starting five. That ship has sailed. Lopez keeps our D elite and with DDV/Holiday in the backcourt the D will likely be better than last year. Upending that elite D at this point with zero bench is a dumb move.

coolhandluke121 · Post #309 » by **coolhandluke121** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:07 pm

lvckv wrote:If we're paying Pat $3.9m then it was always going to be part of the MLE.

If we re-signed him using early bird rights the max we could pay would be 175% of his last contract, which was $1.6m. That is... not close to $3.9m.

Ah, thank you. I am frayed by the last several disastrous days and was too quick to judge the financials without thinking that through. Still, not it's just a question of why the hell they're paying Pat that much when they can't exploit his early Bird rights, which just means it's a bad talent choice rather than bad cap knowledge or tax-ducking.

Chad34 · Post #310 » by **Chad34** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:07 pm

can the league come in and put a stop to this ineptness and save the bucks from themselves?

lvckv · Post #311 » by **lvckv** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:08 pm

coolhandluke121 wrote:
lvckv wrote:If we're paying Pat $3.9m then it was always going to be part of the MLE.

If we re-signed him using early bird rights the max we could pay would be 175% of his last contract, which was $1.6m. That is... not close to $3.9m.

Ah, thank you. I am frayed by the last several disastrous days and was too quick to judge the financials without thinking that through. Still, not it's just a question of why the hell they're paying Pat that much when they can't exploit his early Bird rights, which just means it's a bad talent choice rather than bad cap knowledge or tax-ducking.

Actually early bird can also be up to the average salary of the league, which is around $10m. missed that out

coolhandluke121 · Post #312 » by **coolhandluke121** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:08 pm

German Athens wrote:
coolhandluke121 wrote:Who would be sent to Sacto to match salaries though? All these shenanigans have made it hard to add up enough outgoing salaries. Are they able to just sign Ersan for the same $7m after waiving him? They actually might be, as it would not be a raise or anything.

Wouldn’t brook work? Brook + Donte or brook + dJ or brook + Donte + dJ

No way you have to include DDV and Brook IMO. Who else offers something better than Brook for Bogdan? And you better be damn sure you're getting Baynes with what's left of the MLE and a decent back-up with the BAE if you do this.

buckbeer · Post #313 » by **buckbeer** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:09 pm

Coach Bud will have no choice but to play the starters big minutes every game this season, because he won't have much of a bench. So we will probably see even more disgusted and angry face expressions from him at the sidelines this season.

coolhandluke121 · Post #314 » by **coolhandluke121** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:09 pm

lvckv wrote:
coolhandluke121 wrote:
lvckv wrote:If we're paying Pat $3.9m then it was always going to be part of the MLE.

If we re-signed him using early bird rights the max we could pay would be 175% of his last contract, which was $1.6m. That is... not close to $3.9m.

Ah, thank you. I am frayed by the last several disastrous days and was too quick to judge the financials without thinking that through. Still, not it's just a question of why the hell they're paying Pat that much when they can't exploit his early Bird rights, which just means it's a bad talent choice rather than bad cap knowledge or tax-ducking.

Actually early bird can also be up to the average salary of the league, which is around $10m. missed that out

I didn't remember that either but now that you mention it, it does sound vaguely familiar.

mkegb · Post #315 » by **mkegb** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:10 pm

The only last option is to use DDV, DJ and S&T Brown for Bogdan.

GoldenAntlers · Post #316 » by **GoldenAntlers** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:10 pm

Can't believe I went from thrilled to having the best starting 5 in the NBA to okay with Giannis leaving as early as right now within 2 days. They better clean this up. Fast.

LittleRooster · Post #317 » by **LittleRooster** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:10 pm

Can we change the exclamation point with an ellipsis in the thread title lol

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LUKE23 · Post #318 » by **LUKE23** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:10 pm

The amount of pressure you are putting on Giannis to play C by moving Brook with a weak bench C is crazy.

The original deal for Bogdan was good. We massively improved our starting five while make our offense far more versatile. Now that we don't have the salary to do it, you just roll with our current starting five, which will be probably the top defense in basketball. We can't trade Lopez right now. Lopez + DDV for him would be insanity.

coolhandluke121 · Post #319 » by **coolhandluke121** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:11 pm

buckbeer wrote:Coach Bud will have no choice but to play the starters big minutes every game this season, because he won't have much of a bench. So we will probably see even more disgusted and angry face expressions from him at the sidelines this season.

Picked a great year to have no depth with a 72-game schedule in a dramatically shortened season. Go with excess depth and not being built for the playoffs each of the last two years and then finally switch it up in the one season where it might actually be smart to be 11-deep.

LittleRooster · Post #320 » by **LittleRooster** » Sat Nov 21, 2020 4:11 pm

LUKE23 wrote:The amount of pressure you are putting on Giannis to play C by moving Brook with a weak bench C is crazy.

The original deal for Bogdan was good. We massively improved our starting five while make our offense far more versatile. Now that we don't have the salary to do it, you just roll with our current starting five, which will be probably the top defense in basketball. We can't trade Lopez right now. Lopez + DDV for him would be insanity.

Agreed

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