ROUND 1: AJ Johnson - Poll Added

Dick Tate · Post #301 » by **Dick Tate** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:01 am

Was this a Horst or a Doc pick?

James1980 · Post #302 » by **James1980** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:01 am

emunney wrote:Imagine being in that war room like, "We can't draft this guy at 23, Givony has him going later."

Ever hear of trading back?

emunney · Post #303 » by **emunney** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:01 am

JonHeist wrote:
emunney wrote:
JonHeist wrote:
find me literally one person who had him in their top 32

I don't care if it's some other board's fotis... you probably can't

Vecenie had him 32, not that it matters at all.

he's the guy who had insider info

did he have him at 32 a week or two ago?

or only after he knew horst had fallen in love?

I found a mock from 3 months ago and he did not have him top 32

btw I meant big board not mock draft

His draft guide was published 5 days ago and Johnson was 32 on his personal board.

ShootingtheJ · Post #304 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:01 am

Could he be the first 1st rounder to sign a 2 way contract? Ridiculous to spend the 1st round slot of $3.2 million on him to play for the Herd.

emunney · Post #305 » by **emunney** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:02 am

James1980 wrote:
emunney wrote:Imagine being in that war room like, "We can't draft this guy at 23, Givony has him going later."

Ever hear of trading back?

Oh, sorry. "We gotta trade back, Givony has him going later."

Better?

buckboy · Post #306 » by **buckboy** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:03 am

jakecronus8 wrote:Saw someone on twitter say he’s Bronny without the nepotism. Feels about right.

Bonny has a near-zero chance of playing a meaningful NBA minute.

This guy at least has a chance.

JonHeist · Post #307 » by **JonHeist** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:03 am

emunney wrote:
JonHeist wrote:
emunney wrote:
Vecenie had him 32, not that it matters at all.

he's the guy who had insider info

did he have him at 32 a week or two ago?

or only after he knew horst had fallen in love?

I found a mock from 3 months ago and he did not have him top 32

btw I meant big board not mock draft

His draft guide was published 5 days ago and Johnson was 32 on his personal board.

well he probably knew by then

but howabout a new challenge... did anyone have him top 23? lol no

JonHeist · Post #308 » by **JonHeist** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:03 am

buckboy wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:Saw someone on twitter say he’s Bronny without the nepotism. Feels about right.

Bonny has a near-zero chance of playing a meaningful NBA minute.

This guy at least has a chance.

yeah take the "maybe we can sign his daddy" angle out of it and he is at least clearly a better prospect than bronny

German Athens · Post #309 » by **German Athens** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:03 am

I like his change of speed in the combine - he’s constantly doing it, too. Between that, and some of the simple passes to the roller, that bodes decently well for his offensive feel.

Shifty dudes who can pass are really hard players to acquire if they become fully fledged nba players.

I also like that midrange pull-up, too.

ShootingtheJ · Post #310 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:04 am

ReasonablySober wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:Please stop saying he was a reach. The guy who nailed Johnson to Milwaukee in his mock today specifically mentioned that the Bucks may not have believed he would make it to #33 because of who Johnson worked out for.

Those teams all also had mid or late 2nd round picks. Nobody was taking this project.

And trades never happen.

I'm saying the teams that worked him out did so to consider him with their later pick.

Plossum · Post #311 » by **Plossum** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:04 am

I'm not a draft savvy person, but if this guy is a real rocks or diamonds pick then I'm all for it. This late in the draft is such a crap shoot that might as well take a swing.

emunney · Post #312 » by **emunney** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:04 am

JonHeist wrote:
emunney wrote:
JonHeist wrote:
he's the guy who had insider info

did he have him at 32 a week or two ago?

or only after he knew horst had fallen in love?

I found a mock from 3 months ago and he did not have him top 32

btw I meant big board not mock draft

His draft guide was published 5 days ago and Johnson was 32 on his personal board.

well he probably knew by then

but howabout a new challenge... did anyone have him top 23? lol no

How about a different kind of challenge: what is your deeply held opinion based on?

msiris · Post #313 » by **msiris** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:04 am

Wonka wrote:If we take Oso tomorrow, you KNOW Horst is sabotaging us

He is doing that anways since we did not let him interview with another team.

Post #314 » by **ReasonablySober** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:06 am

ShootingtheJ wrote:
ReasonablySober wrote:
ShootingtheJ wrote:
Those teams all also had mid or late 2nd round picks. Nobody was taking this project.

And trades never happen.

I'm saying the teams that worked him out did so to consider him with their later pick.

You absolutely do not know that. The person who would have some insight and does have inside information, moved him up to #23 because the Bucks didn't think he'd be there at #33.

JonHeist · Post #315 » by **JonHeist** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:06 am

emunney wrote:
JonHeist wrote:
emunney wrote:
His draft guide was published 5 days ago and Johnson was 32 on his personal board.

well he probably knew by then

but howabout a new challenge... did anyone have him top 23? lol no

How about a different kind of challenge: what is your deeply held opinion based on?

1) couldn't earn minutes on a bad NBL team

2) 99% won't help us significantly this year and at least 90% next year

3) at least a 50% chance he is still there at 33 even if you want to be as charitable as possible (I would say 90%)

4) there were some players I thought that had a semi-realistic chance of helping us win games (or at least eat minutes) next year still on the board (and now most of them are gone with 31 and 32 still to come)

I like his archetype, combine performance and theoretical upside, but it is a SH*T pick when given context

MVP2110 · Post #316 » by **MVP2110** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:06 am

raferfenix wrote:
James1980 wrote:that war room was ridiculous

Can someone internet sleuth their way into finding out who these guys are / what happened here?

Or barring that come up with the funniest fan fiction.

Read on Twitter

When you consider the fact that the Bucks left the draft up to a bunch of college kids this pick makes alot more sense

Post #317 » by **humanrefutation** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:07 am

Yahoo's Krysten Peek:

Grade: B+
Johnson's upside as a 6-foot-5 combo guard is very intriguing and he's a player who has been in the gym working out with Rockets guard Jalen Green since 8th grade. They have similar mannerisms as playmakers, and Johnson is still so raw as prospect but could end up being one of the best players in this draft two to three years down the road.

JayMKE · Post #318 » by **JayMKE** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:07 am

Matches Malone wrote:

Read on Twitter

Ajax to AJ Automatic to Athletic AJ :giveup:

buckboy · Post #319 » by **buckboy** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:08 am

I probably dislike Marquette more than anyone here, and at the same time I think I might be the only one here that would be just fine with Oso at 33.

Not Kolek though.

ShootingtheJ · Post #320 » by **ShootingtheJ** » Thu Jun 27, 2024 4:08 am

German Athens wrote:I like his change of speed in the combine - he’s constantly doing it, too. Between that, and some of the simple passes to the roller, that bodes decently well for his offensive feel.

Shifty dudes who can pass are really hard players to acquire if they become fully fledged nba players.

I also like that midrange pull-up, too.

You see all the stuff his workout partner Jalen Green does. He's just more raw than Green was coming out, and it's taken Green years to become tollerable. Green does look pretty exciting going forward.

Way Too Early Snap Judgment