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[Ron Swanson]

It only took 5 years, but I'm much excited for the Langston Galloway era to begin in Milwaukee.

[raferfenix]

If the lockerroom stuff was so bad why did Horst emphasize the possibility we bring Boogie back? He could have still done a favor for the agent without that part.

I suspect it's a combination of the owners being so cash conscious alongside Cousins' defense and attitude. However it's not like any of those issues were surprises, and Cousins' offensive performance was better than expected if anything.

The Bucks made a lot of fanfare with the Boogie signing coming before announcing Brook's surgery.

Unless they are preparing to announce Lopez is coming back earlier than expected (or some other acquisition to fill the gap) I could easily see Giannis preferring Cousins taking up minutes on the court for a few more months of the regular season slog.

If we weren't in the luxury tax it seems like we would have kept Boogie for longer at least. But Giannis / Bud weren't going to fight the decision to save a few bucks if he was being a pain.

[Ron Swanson]

So all this "locker room" talk is based on absolutely zero evidence other than conjecture and assumptions based on Boogie's past history and personality on the court, right? Like, what the hell are we even doing here?

Bobby flexes after every dunk and jaws with officials to the extent that his teammates need to regularly calm him down (see: Middleton yelling at him in Game 6), so he's not a "culture" guy either, right? Need to stop lobbing this accusation at every player after-the-fact simply because they're not a wholesome Boy Scout (PJ, Boogie, rinse-repeat).

[MickeyDavis]

Hard to know the real story. Bledsoe came here as a "locker room cancer" ( he Tweeted "I don't want to be here" as a Sun) but was well regarded amongst teammates and staff.

[Iheartfootball]

Quick no BS story which may shed some light.

Bucks were on the road last month in New Orleans. After the game Boogie couldn't find his watch which he had in his locker. He went on a tirade, asking some players if they took it. Then accusing/questioning some staff, and then some Smoothie King staffers. Never found it.

Fast forward to the next day back in MKE, and the watch is in his locker. Instead of apologizing to everyone, he laughed it off and said 'I bet someone planted it here when we got back".

I don't think he was real popular with the other guys...

Sounds like the Bucks did it for the culture.

I don't think I did that right. I'm old.

[M-C-G]

It only took 5 years, but I'm much excited for the Langston Galloway era to begin in Milwaukee.

Once we get Devin Harris, do we have the entire collection or do we still need Alec Burks and Al Horford to complete the set?


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[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

So all this "locker room" talk is based on absolutely zero evidence other than conjecture and assumptions based on Boogie's past history and personality on the court, right? Like, what the hell are we even doing here?

Bobby flexes after every dunk and jaws with officials to the extent that his teammates need to regularly calm him down (see: Middleton yelling at him in Game 6), so he's not a "culture" guy either, right? Need to stop lobbing this accusation at every player after-the-fact simply because they're not a wholesome Boy Scout (PJ, Boogie, rinse-repeat).

Is it any different than those saying we did it because the owners are cheap? They have made cost moves, but they have any signed aging players to max contracts that put us over the tax/won us a championship. I probably would've kept him and I'm sure if Giannis thought it was that important, he would've pushed to keep Boogie. Seems more likely that this was always going to be a 10-day contract and keeping that spot open. Guy will always have offensive talent and grab some boards, but I cringed everytime he tried dunking. He is just toast athletically. Rather go small than play him in the playoffs.

Will be interesting to see if Boogie signs with anyone. Isaiah freaking thomas got signed within 48 hours of the Lakers saying no thanks after a 1/5 -20 performance. It would be really telling if Cousins is not immediately picked up in this environment.

(As for Bobby, I've been pleasantly surprised but was only cautiously optimistic on the resigning. Thought last year was a honey moon and concerned it could get ugly if he was benched like he was in the playoffs)

[tydett]

I'm just saying that if trying to find his watch is the problem, maybe we're looking too hard for a problem. Of course, you can do the most benign thing like a total **** and maybe that's what happened.

It sounds to me like he thought someone took his watch and someone DID take his watch.

People being gas lit are supposed to remain completely civil at all times.

[Ayt]

It's going to be really funny when we sign him to a 10 day tomorrow and everybody has to walk back all this ****.

For me, both things can absolutely be true. I am hoping there is an intent to bring him back if he can't find a better deal, I feel like this was part of the arrangement with him.

That said, how he handles himself seems like it has been an issue dogging him throughout his career. Classic why not both scenario.

I'm just saying that if trying to find his watch is the problem, maybe we're looking too hard for a problem. Of course, you can do the most benign thing like a total **** and maybe that's what happened.

It sounds to me like he thought someone took his watch and someone DID take his watch.

I read it as if the dumbass left it in his locker back home and forgot about it.

[paulpressey25]

Wow, what a reference. I couldn't wait for Dom to be written off the show, such a massive swing and a miss for a show that was so solid for so long.

Agreed. I hated those episodes when Dom was on the show, because he completely ruined the vibe and chemistry of those four guys.

That's why he's the perfect analogy to Cousins. Right down to the other three guys being afraid to ever confront him or talk bad about him in front of Vince, because Dom was so physically intimidating.

That's why I thought of "E" the other night when Horst released his statement "Unfortunate that Shrek doll was stolen, but anytime DeMarcus wants to come back and cook breakfast for us, we'd welcome it!"

ETA: (To Emunney's walk back point, have committed to a DMC avatar for a month if he's brought back, so more than willing to eat crow if needed here)

[emunney]

For me, both things can absolutely be true. I am hoping there is an intent to bring him back if he can't find a better deal, I feel like this was part of the arrangement with him.

That said, how he handles himself seems like it has been an issue dogging him throughout his career. Classic why not both scenario.

I'm just saying that if trying to find his watch is the problem, maybe we're looking too hard for a problem. Of course, you can do the most benign thing like a total **** and maybe that's what happened.

It sounds to me like he thought someone took his watch and someone DID take his watch.

I read it as if the dumbass left it in his locker back home and forgot about it.

Fair reading but I don't think most people would drive everyone nuts looking for a watch that they hadn't been wearing. "Most people aren't Boogie," I know, I know.

[El Pooch Grande]

Quick no BS story which may shed some light.

Bucks were on the road last month in New Orleans. After the game Boogie couldn't find his watch which he had in his locker. He went on a tirade, asking some players if they took it. Then accusing/questioning some staff, and then some Smoothie King staffers. Never found it.

Fast forward to the next day back in MKE, and the watch is in his locker. Instead of apologizing to everyone, he laughed it off and said 'I bet someone planted it here when we got back".

I don't think he was real popular with the other guys...

So, wait, did I miss something? Is VooDoo the new Buckpack??

[MVP2110]

Does anyone know anything about Jeff Dowtin Jr?

[JayMKE]

im gonna need a source on that watch story

[skones]

Is it any different than those saying we did it because the owners are cheap?

Yes.

They have made cost moves

Right. That's the point.

Seems more likely that this was always going to be a 10-day contract and keeping that spot open.

Well no, because it wasn't a 10-day at all.

Guy will always have offensive talent and grab some boards, but I cringed everytime he tried dunking.

Kewel.

[skones]

The counterpoint to Boogie, as much as it makes my extremely annoyed, is keeping Wes.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

Is it any different than those saying we did it because the owners are cheap?

Yes.

They have made cost moves

Right. That's the point.

Seems more likely that this was always going to be a 10-day contract and keeping that spot open.

Well no, because it wasn't a 10-day at all.

Guy will always have offensive talent and grab some boards, but I cringed everytime he tried dunking.

Kewel.

Not sure how you (or the op I was responding to) can point to owners history of being cheap as evidence but dismiss Boogie being an ass for most of his career as a pure speculation. Both are pure speculation with very supportive history.

And sorry, I misspoke and said 10-day contract when i should have said signed him to a non-guaranteed contract where he would have to be released in 40-days unless they wanted to keep him. Basically a 40-day contract with an option on 1/7.

[skones]

Not sure how you (or the op I was responding to) can point to owners history of being cheap as evidence but dismiss Boogie being an ass for most of his career as a pure speculation. Both are pure speculation with very supportive history.

And sorry, I misspoke and said 10-day contract when i should have said signed him to a non-guaranteed contract where he would have to be released in 40-days unless they wanted to keep him. Basically a 40-day contract with an option on 1/7.

No. Owners being cheap is not "pure speculation." I have for you a photo, a photo which makes that entire case. It is not speculation because it happened.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

The counterpoint to Boogie, as much as it makes my extremely annoyed, is keeping Wes.

I guess I need a little bit more insight. Was Wes's contract guaranteed today? Was 1/7 some kind of NBA deadline or is by contracts?
Even if guaranteed, they may have the intention of keeping him for the playoffs. With Boogie, I think some are saying you could've guaranteed him now and cut him later if someone else better came along and it just would've cost money, right?

IDK, I'm not going to lose any sleep over cousins. He showed flashes and fun to watch but not sure he wins more games than he loses the rest of the year especially once he is guaranteed and not trying to save his job.

[randy84]

Does anyone know anything about Jeff Dowtin Jr?

Yes. Headcase. This will be his second team in one year. Did get a camp invite, so might be an All-Star. May or may not own a watch.