Giannis' Development part 3 - SI Cover/Article - Page 35

Sky High · Post #41 » by **Sky High** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:36 pm

My favorite Bucks player of all time. Sorry, Ray.

We are witnessing history!

HKPackFan · Post #42 » by **HKPackFan** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 5:41 pm

Whiteman wrote:I can't get over how much better he is now than 8 months ago, when he was already racking up triple doubles. The timing on his passes, the decision making on when to attack and when to get teammates involved, the defense... So much fun to watch.

Prime Giannis has arrived, may his reign last a dozen years.

I guess he had a pretty good summer after all.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #43 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 6:07 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:I know the spin move is his go-to, but I would like to see him add something in the post. Thinking it would be great if he worked on that Dirk one-leg fade away/step back as an option. I've provided video of Dirk executing said moves for your viewing pleasure.

Watch on YouTube

That would make him a way better ISO player but between giannis posting someone up, or facing them and driving, Im taking the face up 99% of the time.

Why? Two points is two points.

Depends if you want to argue about his capabilities to make each shot. I think he would be limited on his touch and shooting percentage. I would rather take 2 points at a 60% , clip versus 2 points at a 50% clip. I just think he has a higher percentage attacking versus fading away. Won't disagree if you think he has the capability to be automatic with the turn around from a short distance.

MartyConlonOnTheRun · Post #44 » by **MartyConlonOnTheRun** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 6:09 pm

humanrefutation wrote:Giannis's biggest offensive liabilities were apparent down the stretch yesterday, when he tried to go to his classic dribble drive spin-o-rama and got stymied. Teams with multiple effective bigs will make it harder on him to make that kind of play consistently in a half-court set, which makes it even more imperative that he gets, and takes, jumpers when they sag off him.

I would use the next play as an example of him not needing the jumper. He learned not to force it and instead of losing control he swung it for a wide open three due to defenders collapsing on the attack. I take Mirza wide open three over a Giannis jumper.

Post #45 » by **humanrefutation** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 6:22 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
humanrefutation wrote:Giannis's biggest offensive liabilities were apparent down the stretch yesterday, when he tried to go to his classic dribble drive spin-o-rama and got stymied. Teams with multiple effective bigs will make it harder on him to make that kind of play consistently in a half-court set, which makes it even more imperative that he gets, and takes, jumpers when they sag off him.

I would use the next play as an example of him not needing the jumper. He learned not to force it and instead of losing control he swung it for a wide open three due to defenders collapsing on the attack. I take Mirza wide open three over a Giannis jumper.

The fact that he was able to kick it out on that one play isn't really instructive when discussing his development going forward. If he had a jumper, not only does that give him a tool in his arsenal that he currently doesn't have, but it would also make it harder to cover his drives to the basket because defenders wouldn't be able to sag off him as much. That would make him an immeasurably more effective offensive player, and he might have been able to take a higher-percentage shot at the rim rather than kick it out in a one point game.

floeter · Post #46 » by **floeter** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 6:26 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:I would use the next play as an example of him not needing the jumper. He learned not to force it and instead of losing control he swung it for a wide open three due to defenders collapsing on the attack. I take Mirza wide open three over a Giannis jumper.

That was a Lebron play. You should't be able to get that wide open of a shot against that team's end game D. He got a little predictable with the spin, true, but he used it to sucker them into thinking he was going back to the well again.

Shot didn't fall. When that's Khris, GG league.

Perishable517 · Post #47 » by **Perishable517** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 6:35 pm

Looking forward to what he is going to do on the next geumdeh.

The Lazy Potato · Post #48 » by **The Lazy Potato** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 7:06 pm

You have to read this

http://www.eurohoops.net/featured/358487/giannis-dont-want-gifts-bucks-give-enough-every-day

Post #49 » by **Prez** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 7:27 pm

Nightfall · Post #50 » by **Nightfall** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 7:31 pm

4 ESPN reporters talk about Giannis :

http://www.gazzetta.gr/basketball/article/1017484/espn-apotheonei-meso-toy-gazzetta-ton-antetokoynmpo-gtv

Don't mind the greek, 4 videos are in english with greek subs. Check out some nice 3pts shots on training as well.

StickeeFingaz · Post #51 » by **StickeeFingaz** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 7:37 pm

KG at Bucks practice today talking with Giannis and Thon.

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SupremeHustle · Post #52 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 8:11 pm

MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:
SupremeHustle wrote:
MartyConlonOnTheRun wrote:That would make him a way better ISO player but between giannis posting someone up, or facing them and driving, Im taking the face up 99% of the time.

Why? Two points is two points.

Depends if you want to argue about his capabilities to make each shot. I think he would be limited on his touch and shooting percentage. I would rather take 2 points at a 60% , clip versus 2 points at a 50% clip. I just think he has a higher percentage attacking versus fading away. Won't disagree if you think he has the capability to be automatic with the turn around from a short distance.

No, I don't want him to abandon one shot for the other. It's just I see teams anticipating his spin move. It would be nice if he could counter the anticipation into a step-back or fade away. Just looking for him to diversify his portfolio. 8-)

SupremeHustle · Post #53 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 8:12 pm

Milbuck wrote:

Zeus was white!

Signed,

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Pachinko_ · Post #54 » by **Pachinko_** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 8:29 pm

SupremeHustle wrote:I know the spin move is his go-to, but I would like to see him add something in the post. Thinking it would be great if he worked on that Dirk one-leg fade away/step back as an option. I've provided video of Dirk executing said moves for your viewing pleasure.

Watch on YouTube

at the 30" mark

Watch on YouTube

SupremeHustle · Post #55 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 8:31 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:
at the 30" mark

Watch on YouTube

YES! More of that.

Pachinko_ · Post #56 » by **Pachinko_** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 8:38 pm

Ι know
It's weird how much better he was at some things 4 years ago :dontknow:

his 3 pt shot is another.

Wiscfan92 · Post #57 » by **Wiscfan92** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 8:39 pm

Still a little erratic at times going to the rack, but I love that he seems to always be going 100MPH down the court.

Pachinko_ · Post #58 » by **Pachinko_** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 8:51 pm

cfgardner ‏@cf_gardner
Kevin Garnett at Bucks practice today in consultant role. Talking now with Giannis and Thon Maker.

SupremeHustle · Post #59 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 9:01 pm

Pachinko_ wrote:cfgardner ‏@cf_gardner
Kevin Garnett at Bucks practice today in consultant role. Talking now with Giannis and Thon Maker.

Vin Baker back there smiling makes me wonder what KG is saying. I guarantee there are 100 cuss words in whatever it is.

SupremeHustle · Post #60 » by **SupremeHustle** » Tue Dec 6, 2016 9:03 pm

It's weird that Kidd and Giannis could be a combo of LeBron and Dirk on the day I said he should add some Dirk. Maybe it's that obvious, though.