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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4481 » by step3profit » Fri Sep 4, 2009 12:09 am

paulpressey25 wrote:I agree with the Knicks poster. If we get to October 1 and no deal, I could see Ramon settling for a three-year deal from the Knicks that gets him a player option after year 2.

That gets him out from RFA, and even at $3mm a year gets him a lot more protection and options than if he just settled for the QO.

Somebody is going to step forward and put out an offer sheet that Ramon will be forced to sign. Carl Landry, Varajao, Bell.....all similar type guys who had their situations play out late into the fall and even into the start of the season. I'm guessing at this point Ramon is waiting to see if someone gets injured or a team has a hole they want to fill as we get closer to camp.


Interesting that the 3 guys you mentioned all ended up signing with their original team. :D
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4482 » by aboveAverage » Fri Sep 4, 2009 12:17 am

Clippers just offered Arroyo a contract. Looks like they are out for Sessions. That leaves the Knicks. If the Knicks and Sessions can't compromise, then I'm guessing he has nowhere else to go but Milwaukee. This is looking good.

I just wish Hammond would offer Ramon something cheap for 3 years and get this done with right now.
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4483 » by K_ick_God » Fri Sep 4, 2009 12:17 am

Clips offering Arroyo a contract which could mean they WERE interested in Sessions but are no longer.
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4484 » by raferfenix » Fri Sep 4, 2009 12:17 am

Is it inconceivable that Ramon would want another crack at free agency next offseason?

Tons of teams are going to have money and he'd be a major consolation prize for a team that whiffs on a max superstar. Taking the $6 mill guaratneed over two years (regardless if hte Bucks match) is the safer move, but if he really thinks he deserves Mo Williams money he can go for it again next summer.

Jennings is a 19 year old rookie, Ridnour sucks, and he shoudl be able to beat out Ukic. In terms of a position to show case himself, he won't have many better locations.
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4485 » by aboveAverage » Fri Sep 4, 2009 12:19 am

Agreed. Sessions will get his minutes this year just because we do not have much talent. He can play backup shooting guard, he can start at point, he can be backup point. The Bucks are his best situation I think.
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4486 » by carmelbrownqueen » Fri Sep 4, 2009 1:22 am

Right now it sucks to be Chubby Wells and Ramon Sessions because it looks like Nate/Lee could be on their way back to NY and perhaps Arroyo may go to the Clippers.
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4487 » by trwi7 » Fri Sep 4, 2009 1:29 am

carmelbrownqueen wrote:Right now it sucks to be Chubby Wells because his name is Chubby.


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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4488 » by raferfenix » Fri Sep 4, 2009 1:37 am

I remember wichmae saying someone would eventually spill the beans about what the Knicks were offering us for Sessions in a sign and trade----presumably becasue of how lopsided hte offer was.

Maybe they only would give a multi-year deal if some team helps them chop cap? They've been playing extreme hard ball with their own free agents for hte same reason, and if they don't break with them why would they break with Sessions?

I'm not sure htey even offer him a 2 year $6 mill deal. You'd think some team would offer him that eventually (especially if there's an injury), but I'm not sure it'll be the Knicks.
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4489 » by midranger » Fri Sep 4, 2009 1:44 am

wichmae has said a lot of things.

Perhaps it's time to stop listening.
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4490 » by MickeyDavis » Fri Sep 4, 2009 1:45 am

Hey he's bound to be right eventually. :lol:
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4491 » by midranger » Fri Sep 4, 2009 1:47 am

MickeyDavis wrote:Hey he's bound to be right eventually. :lol:

I believe he recently quoted his record on this board as 3 for 4 or something similar.

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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4492 » by REDDzone » Fri Sep 4, 2009 2:02 am

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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4493 » by BDUB_30 » Fri Sep 4, 2009 2:07 am

LUKE23 wrote:If he's back, Ridnour will be moved, and Ukic isn't going to play much. So Sessions would obviously see time.

With Sessions and Ridnour both on one-year deals, they would definitely look to move a worse, older player making 6.5 times as much that will not be a RFA after the season.



Yeah , coming from the dude who some 200 pages ago told us that if Hammond didnt give ramon 35 millon dollars they were " DONE WITH HAMMOND " , you clearly are not the one to be telling us what the pg rotation " WILL" be .


You mean to tell me that the bucks feel Sessions is a more capable starter/backup then Ridnour yet their unwilling to offer him ANYTHING but the QO ? That makes zero sense. If Ramon is back the only way he sees the court is because of an injury. Mark it down. Youve been dead wrong on Ramon thruout this whole process so please stop telling us all whats " going to happen " in regards to the pg situation. Youre like the Rob Deer of predictions , you just keep swinging as hard as u can and getting nothing .


Watch and see , if Ramon comes back hes going to be backing the 3rd string pg , will see very little PT . The only way that DOESNT happen is if BJ is worse then were all anticipating , that is possible but that would be disastorious. A guy that couldnt even get an NBA contract ( Ramon ) beats out our lottery pick . Sad times for bucks fans if that happens.
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4494 » by rrravenred » Fri Sep 4, 2009 2:33 am

BDUB_30 wrote:Yeah , coming from the dude who some 200 pages ago...


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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4495 » by LUKE23 » Fri Sep 4, 2009 2:35 am

If Sessions comes back at the QO, Bucks will look to move Ridnour and Sessions will get PT. My guess is Jennings and Sessions would get all the PG minutes with Ukic only seeing time if there was an injury. Sessions would also get very minimal minutes at SG.
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4496 » by andonewheel » Fri Sep 4, 2009 3:01 am

BDUB_30 wrote:Yeah , coming from the dude who some 200 pages ago told us that if Hammond didnt give ramon 35 millon dollars they were " DONE WITH HAMMOND " , you clearly are not the one to be telling us what the pg rotation " WILL" be .


You mean to tell me that the bucks feel Sessions is a more capable starter/backup then Ridnour yet their unwilling to offer him ANYTHING but the QO ? That makes zero sense. If Ramon is back the only way he sees the court is because of an injury. Mark it down. Youve been dead wrong on Ramon thruout this whole process so please stop telling us all whats " going to happen " in regards to the pg situation. Youre like the Rob Deer of predictions , you just keep swinging as hard as u can and getting nothing .


Watch and see , if Ramon comes back hes going to be backing the 3rd string pg , will see very little PT . The only way that DOESNT happen is if BJ is worse then were all anticipating , that is possible but that would be disastorious. A guy that couldnt even get an NBA contract ( Ramon ) beats out our lottery pick . Sad times for bucks fans if that happens.

Just because you spend a lot of time arguing it passionately doesn't mean it's any more likely to go how you want.

Ramon and BJ will get pretty much all the minutes at PG. Ukic is a non-factor. Ridnour will be dealt. Even if Ridnour stays, he will be the 3rd string PG only put in to punish Ramon/BJ when they're playing poorly.
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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4497 » by raferfenix » Fri Sep 4, 2009 3:10 am

Dare we presume this means anything except Chubby Wells and Gery Woelful needing to get into the news....

@GeryWoelfel: There could be a major and surprising development on Ramon Sessions front. More details later at journaltimes.com

What's the over under for the surprising details he gives (regardless of whether they come to fruition...cause if history is any indication they probably won't)?
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Post#4498 » by andonewheel » Fri Sep 4, 2009 3:17 am

Hmmmm...
A new (unnamed) team entering the picture?
The Clips are out of the running?
A sign & trade possibility that has no real basis in reality?

Or maybe he's just gonna sign for a couple years with the Bucks.
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Post#4499 » by DanoMac » Fri Sep 4, 2009 3:22 am

raferfenix wrote:Dare we presume this means anything except Chubby Wells and Gery Woelful needing to get into the news....

@GeryWoelfel: There could be a major and surprising development on Ramon Sessions front. More details later at journaltimes.com

What's the over under for the surprising details he gives (regardless of whether they come to fruition...cause if history is any indication they probably won't)?


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Re: Sessions Update:Knicks a no-go per Hahn/Chubby (pg 250) 

Post#4500 » by raferfenix » Fri Sep 4, 2009 3:25 am

I don't know if the Bucks deciding to resign him qualifies as surprising, but I do know that Woelful is exaggerating anything he can to keep legs on this story.

I'd say a sign and trade that isn't to the Knicks would be both major and surprising, presuming we get something decent in return. Any ideas what team that could be?

I'm thinking a deal with the Thunder where we use Sessions to swap Gadz for Collison and change (that doesn't push us into luxury tax land). I wouldn't love it, but I'm not too optimistic anymore that we could get much more than that in a sign and trade-----I'd much rather sign him and trade Ridnour than do that deal though.

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