Bucks News, Transactions, Trade Ideas

[ReasonablySober]

Not really the same. If we had an Andrew Bynum level talent on the way, then it's an easier sell. It's also an easier sell if you're in Los Angeles. Golden State had picks and was waiting for Klau to get healthy.

Presumably they're already in discussions with their potential FA. The same guys that once they finally landed on playing gave the Pacers everything they could handle.

Obviously, it's a very tough sell but leading with "give us a year and maybe then we can get out of our own way" sounds unacceptable to me at least.

You can't say, "the Bucks are ****" in one breath and then say "I expect Horst to sell this team that that gave the Pacers everything they could handle" in the next.

They're either **** and Giannis should demand out, or they've got a team Horst can sell to Giannis. One or the other.

[fansinceforever]

Not really the same. If we had an Andrew Bynum level talent on the way, then it's an easier sell. It's also an easier sell if you're in Los Angeles. Golden State had picks and was waiting for Klau to get healthy.

Presumably they're already in discussions with their potential FA. The same guys that once they finally landed on playing gave the Pacers everything they could handle.

Obviously, it's a very tough sell but leading with "give us a year and maybe then we can get out of our own way" sounds unacceptable to me at least.

You can't say, "the Bucks are ****" in one breath and then say "I expect Horst to sell this team that that gave the Pacers everything they could handle" in the next.

They're either **** and Giannis should demand out, or they've got a team Horst can sell to Giannis. One or the other.

Again, I'm going with the bolded one. Giannis and many on this board feel differently than me.

Horst's job is to sell the superstar on staying. If that's the teams goal, Why shouldn't I expect him to come up with something better than "we may have an opportunity to be good when you're 32"?

[soxperry]

i think you have to look at it like: what's the alternative? is GIannis going to love the idea of yet another new coach coming in? is there anyone that good that's really available?

[NYG]

John Collins and Collin Sexton for Kyle Kuzma, Bobby Portis, Pat Connaughton, AJ Green and 2031 Unprotected Milwaukee Bucks First Round Draft Pick?

[raferfenix]

Not only this board thinking about potential Jazz trades.

To cash in on Collin Sexton and John Collins, the Utah Jazz should try to exploit the Milwaukee Bucks' desperation by trading them for Damian Lillard and some draft capital.

https://thejnotes.com/grade-trade-idea-jazz-cash-collin-sexton-john-collins-bucks-swap

This does multiple things for both teams. Milwaukee receives two solid starting-caliber players: John Collins and Collin Sexton. Both players can play with Giannis with their ability to spread the floor. They’ve both been having huge resurgences in their careers and could absolutely contribute to a winning season in Milwaukee, providing much-needed depth. On top of that, both players have expiring contracts, allowing Milwaukee to go after someone in free agency to play with Giannis, if they want to move on after next season.

Utah also has huge incentive to tank next year because they owe their pick to OKC if they’re not in the bottom eight of the draft. This allows them to develop their youth another season without having to do strategic resting all season. The Jazz still have to find a Lauri Markkanen trade partner, but this is a great start. And let’s not forget that having Damian Lillard, who has history in Utah with his college years in Weber State, can be a huge positive influence for the youth on the Jazz.

https://www.slcdunk.com/2025/4/30/24421444/utah-jazz-trade-rumors-giannis-antetokounmpo-milwaukee-bucks-damian-lillard

Situationally, the Milwaukee Bucks could be one of the best spots Sexton could find himself next season, in the event Utah were looking to make a deal for him. With the likely absence of Damian Lillard across most of the coming year with an Achilles injury, this team could be primed to take a deep look at the guard market this offseason to give Giannis Antetokounmpo a serviceable supporting cast in the backcourt while his All-Star teammate is out.

Sexton, as a one-year rental for the Bucks, may be worth the investment. Sexton's versatile enough of a guard to play next to a talent like Giannis, while also being able to apply himself as a spark plug, lead scorer in the second unit if need be. For Milwaukee, at the right price, he makes a ton of sense.

https://www.si.com/nba/jazz/news/3-potential-trade-suitors-utah-jazz-collin-sexton

Eric Pincus: “Milwaukee could try to pry away one of the Utah Jazz's two big men, but the asking price for Kessler would be much higher than Collins."

Adding a player like Collins could completely change everything for the Bucks. Collins isn't an All-Star but he has played like one at different times in his career.

This could be a big addition for Milwaukee and he could take over the Portis role for this team. The Bucks were rumored to be leaning toward moving on from Portis before the NBA trade deadline and it could happen this summer.

Collins would be a fun replacement, offering extreme athleticism next to the star players. On the year, Collins has averaged 18.9 points, 8.2 rebounds, and 2.0 assists per game.

https://www.si.com/nba/bucks/news/bucks-predicted-to-trade-for-125m-forward-this-offseason-

[emunney]

John Collins and Collin Sexton for Kyle Kuzma, Bobby Portis, Pat Connaughton, AJ Green and 2031 Unprotected Milwaukee Bucks First Round Draft Pick?

Jazz probably wouldn't unless the Bucks threw in some 2nds. Dang it, we tried, let's go back to wherever we came from

[raferfenix]

Bucks reportedly looked at both Collins and Sexton in the 2023 offseason:

"A team I heard at least had some relatively serious internal discussions about 'Should we wade into the John Collins thing?'" said Zach Lowe. "And I don't know if they contacted Atlanta or how serious it got, was Milwaukee. And that's interesting to me because I do think Milwaukee is looking around for, like, 'Can we get a little just injection of randomness? An injection of, like, balance and athleticism. And just change. Maybe just change more than anything else. I don't think it went anywhere serious.

https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/272159/Bucks-Internally-Discussed-Trade-For-John-Collins

However, the Bucks also appear to have a trade target in mind as well, eyeing Utah Jazz guard Collin Sexton. Believing Sexton to be a nice fit for new head coach Adrian Griffin's offensive system, the Bucks “could make a strong push” for the 24-year-old this offseason, per Bucks insider Jake Weinbach.

https://clutchpoints.com/nba/milwaukee-bucks/nba-rumors-bucks-linked-jazz-collin-sexton-after-john-collins-trade-hawks

[Baddy Chuck]

AJ Green, Bobby Portis and an unprotected, probably post Giannis, first to get Collin Sexton and a different flavor Bobby Portis would be wild.

[tedbrogen]

Trading away AJG is probably one of the dumbest ideas ever proposed on this board. Young, elite shooter, who is way better at D than most here want to admit. He’s a more impactful player as far as fit next to Giannis than either Sexton or Collins would be.

[ShootingtheJ]

More deals for PGs and centers? So we can ignore our wing problems?

The Lakers have long been interested in reuniting with Kuzma. Give me Kuz to the Lakers deals!

[blazza18]

AJ Green, Bobby Portis and an unprotected, probably post Giannis, first to get Collin Sexton and a different flavor Bobby Portis would be wild.

Jon Horst - Challenge accepted

[pifhluk23]

John Collins and Collin Sexton for Kyle Kuzma, Bobby Portis, Pat Connaughton, AJ Green and 2031 Unprotected Milwaukee Bucks First Round Draft Pick?

I'd do this without AJG. I think Utah can get way more though, both those guys will be expiring next year, that's so valuable for teams looking to ditch the aprons.

[BigO]

Not a big John Collins fan. He has decent numbers, except he is turnover prone, can't pass and not a good defender. Not sure he is an improvement over BP.

I'm not giving up the '31 first for two expiring contracts, plus letting BP go and giivng up AJG. Way too much.

Try again. I want some wing defenders.

[ABucksFan]

Giving '31 1st in any combination for Sexton/Collins would be up there for one of the dumbest things we could do.

[raferfenix]

Pieces I wasn't aware of when it comes to Jazz scenarios:

1. Utah has incentive to tank because they owe their pick to OKC if they’re not in the bottom eight of the draft.

2. Lillard has a tie to Utah with his college years in Weber State.

Ainge also has a history taking swings to resuscitate depreciated assets and Dame coming back from his achilles on an ending contract is very different than the lost year ahead.

The Bucks' reported previous interest in Collins/Sexton maybe even Kessler could bode for a Dame-free deal too.

That said, trading any of our very few draft assets or prospects is also a different story than if we'd be eating bad longer term salary like Holiday as the value proposition.

[BigO]

Here's an early morning depressing, but entirely realistic, Bucks thought:

1) Horst still thinks Doc is a good coach

2) Horst still thinks Kuzma is a good player

3) Horst still thinks the Bucks problem is they need more athletes (like many here think) rather than basketball players and continues to draft guys like AJJ and AJ Johnson and trade for guys like Kuzma.

There is nothing that Horst has done that tells me that he doesn't think all these were good moves.

And Horst just signed an extension, meaning the owners, with all their money, think the same thing and have no basketball smarts.

[MartyConlonOnTheRun]

In the "Are they having too much fun?" category, I was listening to miles and points podcast talking about a pre-launch event at Universal Studios and Brook had a special invite with a bunch of bloggers and influencers. Dude really needs to get focused if he wants another ring.

(It is pretty cool how likeable the 2001 team was with Jrue, Kris, Giannis and BroLo all being extremely boring high-quality guys off the court)

[Plossum]

Sexton and Collins suck ass. Things are well and truly at rock bottom if we’re going that route.

[ShootingtheJ]

Here's an early morning depressing, but entirely realistic, Bucks thought:

1) Horst still thinks Doc is a good coach

2) Horst still thinks Kuzma is a good player

3) Horst still thinks the Bucks problem is they need more athletes (like many here think) rather than basketball players and continues to draft guys like AJJ and AJ Johnson and trade for guys like Kuzma.

There is nothing that Horst has done that tells me that he doesn't think all these were good moves.

And Horst just signed an extension, meaning the owners, with all their money, think the same thing and have no basketball smarts.

Posters here want good players that are athletes. Stop blaming us for Horst drafting players we didn't want.

Horst definitely thought Kuzma was good, but one of the few things Horst should get credit for is quickly moving on from his mistakes. Kuzma, the 2nd highest paid player on the team, was benched for an elimination game, and the results were good, almost great. They've clearly soured on Kuzma.

I do agree though, that if they keep Kuzma, they're even bigger morons than I think they are. I think we can still find another sucker in a Kuzma trade. Wait another year, and the memories NBA execs have of Kuzma being slightly useful will have forever faded.

[mlloyd10]

Celtics trade: Holiday/28/2027 1st
Celtics get: Sexton

Why Celtics - Get out of salary cap hell - Move Holiday contract

Bucks trade: Lillard
Bucks get: Holiday/Collins/#43

Why Bucks: Eventhough they take on Holiday contract, this ownership group does whatever to keep Giannis happy.

Jazz Trade: Sexton/Collins/#43
Jazz get: Lillard / 28 /Celtics 2027 1st

Why Jazz - Continue the tank, get Celtics 1st and future 1st

Holiday/Green/Kuzma/Portis/Giannis with KPJ/Collins/Rollins