Around The League - Bullock to Houston

Post #61 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 8:34 pm

It's absurd to think that the Blazers should take less in a deal because of some loyalty BS to Dame.

Baddy Chuck · Post #62 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 8:35 pm

My favorite part of these potential super star trades is when you hear things like "Dame wants to go to Miami, Miami wants Dame but the two sides were unwilling to come to an agreement because Miami wouldn't add Caleb Martin and Nikola Jovic to their trade offer".

FrieAaron · Post #63 » by **FrieAaron** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 8:38 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:It's absurd to think that the Blazers should take less in a deal because of some loyalty BS to Dame.

But don't you see how loyal he's been by agreeing to play with Portland for 40+ million dollars per year?

Post #64 » by **Prez** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 8:42 pm

I could definitely understand the whole reward loyalty stuff if Dame gave them a list of like 4-6 teams, at least then you could have something resembling a bidding war and gives Portland real options. But this “Heat-or-bust stance” that’s been reported is some bull **** by Dame.

Daver · Post #65 » by **Daver** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 8:59 pm

[quote="Prez"]I could definitely understand the whole reward loyalty stuff if Dame gave them a list of like 4-6 teams, at least then you could have something resembling a bidding war and gives Portland real options. But this “Heat-or-bust stance” that’s been reported is some bull ****

Can only hope if he traded their all they hsve left is bam butler n dame no martin no nothing

WeekapaugGroove · Post #66 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 9:15 pm

Prez wrote:I could definitely understand the whole reward loyalty stuff if Dame gave them a list of like 4-6 teams, at least then you could have something resembling a bidding war and gives Portland real options. But this “Heat-or-bust stance” that’s been reported is some bull **** by Dame.

This. There's a middle ground in all this. Like yeah don't do the guy dirty and send him someplace he absolutely doesn't want to go but he has to play ball and give the blazers some options too.

Also Portland is dumb for not getting this **** figured out before the draft/free agency.

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Post #67 » by **ReasonablySober** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 9:39 pm

WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Prez wrote:I could definitely understand the whole reward loyalty stuff if Dame gave them a list of like 4-6 teams, at least then you could have something resembling a bidding war and gives Portland real options. But this “Heat-or-bust stance” that’s been reported is some bull **** by Dame.
This. There's a middle ground in all this. Like yeah don't do the guy dirty and send him someplace he absolutely doesn't want to go but he has to play ball and give the blazers some options too.

Also Portland is dumb for not getting this **** figured out before the draft/free agency.

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What if that team is offering five first round picks and the next best offer is three?

tedbrogen · Post #68 » by **tedbrogen** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 9:41 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Prez wrote:I could definitely understand the whole reward loyalty stuff if Dame gave them a list of like 4-6 teams, at least then you could have something resembling a bidding war and gives Portland real options. But this “Heat-or-bust stance” that’s been reported is some bull **** by Dame.
This. There's a middle ground in all this. Like yeah don't do the guy dirty and send him someplace he absolutely doesn't want to go but he has to play ball and give the blazers some options too.

Also Portland is dumb for not getting this **** figured out before the draft/free agency.

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What if that team is offering five first round picks and the next best offer is three?

Depends which team and years. Like will the team fall apart in the next few years so those picks could be awesome? Or is it Miami or LAL offering the picks where it’s doubtful they are ever a super bad team?

WeekapaugGroove · Post #69 » by **WeekapaugGroove** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 9:59 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:
Prez wrote:I could definitely understand the whole reward loyalty stuff if Dame gave them a list of like 4-6 teams, at least then you could have something resembling a bidding war and gives Portland real options. But this “Heat-or-bust stance” that’s been reported is some bull **** by Dame.
This. There's a middle ground in all this. Like yeah don't do the guy dirty and send him someplace he absolutely doesn't want to go but he has to play ball and give the blazers some options too.

Also Portland is dumb for not getting this **** figured out before the draft/free agency.

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What if that team is offering five first round picks and the next best offer is three?

Specifically if I'm Portland I'd take the 5 because NBA players already don't want to come to Portland. Other markets should probably approach it differently.

Usually it's all kind of a moot point since teams typically don't offer a **** ton for a guy they know doesn't want to be there.

I actually think all the offers for Dame right now are probably a little lighter than Portland would like and that holds this up more than anything else.

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Badgerlander · Post #70 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:06 pm

Jovic at center

engelmartin · Post #71 » by **engelmartin** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:21 pm

Less than a quarter into the first summer league game and I remember why I should never get excited for this

Badgerlander · Post #72 » by **Badgerlander** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 10:31 pm

Jaquez jam

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lightningrodman · Post #73 » by **lightningrodman** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 11:16 pm

They got Jacquez on their steroid program already, wow!

Baddy Chuck · Post #74 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 11:23 pm

So if Dame actually forces his way to Miami then Portland is getting Herro, Martin, Jovic, JJJ and all their picks possible right? Obviously he wants the team to commit to him, right?

Serge28 · Post #75 » by **Serge28** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 11:24 pm

drew881 wrote:
Serge28 wrote:Woj linked us to trying to sign Gordon earlier today. Us and Warriors. Just saying.

Kinda bizarre to go to Suns where he is behind Beal, Booker and Durant. He would be fighting for minutes here with Allen and Beauchamp.

I think I saw somewhere it was cause of more $$$. 2/6 with player option on year 2 vs minimum with the Bucks.

Daver · Post #76 » by **Daver** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 11:24 pm

ReasonablySober wrote:It's absurd to think that the Blazers should take less in a deal because of some loyalty BS to Dame.

Absolutely agree but unfortunately i think when all is said n done somehow agsinst all odds he will end up on miami and when ge does i hope the heat are gutted.
To bad im not the gm of portland cause im telling you know i would trade him anywhere but miami and wouldnt give a flying fu.. if he plays or not

Daver · Post #77 » by **Daver** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 11:29 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:My favorite part of these potential super star trades is when you hear things like "Dame wants to go to Miami, Miami wants Dame but the two sides were unwilling to come to an agreement because Miami wouldn't add Caleb Martin and Nikola Jovic to their trade offer".

Miami wants him for nothing.In anyother scenerio a herro/robinson package wont get you any superstar back so if they get dame with that puke package ill be pissed.

Edit now you throw in martin or bam whole different ball game.
Miami gets him riley will look like a genious when it was more the portland gm looking like a knob

Baddy Chuck · Post #78 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 11:32 pm

Daver wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:My favorite part of these potential super star trades is when you hear things like "Dame wants to go to Miami, Miami wants Dame but the two sides were unwilling to come to an agreement because Miami wouldn't add Caleb Martin and Nikola Jovic to their trade offer".

Miami wants him for nothing.In anyother scenerio a herro/robinson package wont get you any superstar back so if they get dame with that puke package ill be pissed.

Edit now you throw in martin or bam whole different ball game.
Miami gets him riley will look like a genious when it was more the portland gm looking like a knob

That's what gets me though. Dame can bitch and moan about Portland not using their assets around him but when it comes to getting traded to a team he's expecting to go to a fully loaded team for nothing. If I'm Portland I'm telling Miami that I want literally everything they have.

Post #79 » by **humanrefutation** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 11:33 pm

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Well I guess they should cultivate the worst reputation they possibly can then.

I think they just need to thread the needle between honoring his request and doing him dirty.

There's no threading the needle here, really. The only leverage Dame has is to tell other teams that he won't report and hope that they won't call his bluff.

Frankly, I doubt Dame will put up a huge fuss if he's traded to Brooklyn for their haul of picks.

Daver · Post #80 » by **Daver** » Mon Jul 3, 2023 11:38 pm

Baddy Chuck wrote:
Daver wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:My favorite part of these potential super star trades is when you hear things like "Dame wants to go to Miami, Miami wants Dame but the two sides were unwilling to come to an agreement because Miami wouldn't add Caleb Martin and Nikola Jovic to their trade offer".

Miami wants him for nothing.In anyother scenerio a herro/robinson package wont get you any superstar back so if they get dame with that puke package ill be pissed.

Edit now you throw in martin or bam whole different ball game.
Miami gets him riley will look like a genious when it was more the portland gm looking like a knob

That's what gets me though. Dame can bitch and moan about Portland not using their assets around him but when it comes to getting traded to a team he's expecting to go to a fully loaded team for nothing. If I'm Portland I'm telling Miami that I want literally everything they have.

You get martin herro robinson or bam gerro n robinson thats pretty much everything they have.Im not taking anything less than that especially seeing herro is the headliner good god