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Baddy Chuck · Post #701 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:42 am

paul wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:The difference between Monta and Jennings really isn't that much and to say Jennings doesn't pass but Monta does is ludacris, both are me first chuckers. Only difference really is Jennings has a chance to improve where Monta is a finished product.

Yep.

That and Jennings can dribble four times in a row without turning it over.

Monta doesn't get 4 dribbles before tries to drive to the basket is the problem. In which case he dribbles it over his head and hope nobody notices the next 100 times he does it in the game.

-Jragon- · Post #702 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:42 am

paul wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:The difference between Monta and Jennings really isn't that much and to say Jennings doesn't pass but Monta does is ludacris, both are me first chuckers. Only difference really is Jennings has a chance to improve where Monta is a finished product.

Yep.

That and Jennings can dribble four times in a row without turning it over.

Ok then... ummm.. who is your 2nd favorite team? How about we trade him there so you can all watch him be wonderful and everyone can still be a little bit happy : )

Aaron It Out · Post #703 » by **Aaron It Out** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:44 am

You're just an odd one, aren't you.

Baddy Chuck · Post #704 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:46 am

-Jragon- wrote:
paul wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:The difference between Monta and Jennings really isn't that much and to say Jennings doesn't pass but Monta does is ludacris, both are me first chuckers. Only difference really is Jennings has a chance to improve where Monta is a finished product.

Yep.

That and Jennings can dribble four times in a row without turning it over.

Ok then... ummm.. who is your 2nd favorite team? How about we trade him there so you can all watch him be wonderful and everyone can still be a little bit happy : )

I don't think me and paul are arguing we love Jennings, but he's the lesser of 2 evils in this case. I could name 20 point guards I'd probably rather have.

-Jragon- · Post #705 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:47 am

Some may say, but really I just hate Jennings. Almost made me throw my remote through the TV like 50 times over the past two years.

paul · Post #706 » by **paul** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:48 am

-Jragon- wrote:
paul wrote:
Baddy Chuck wrote:The difference between Monta and Jennings really isn't that much and to say Jennings doesn't pass but Monta does is ludacris, both are me first chuckers. Only difference really is Jennings has a chance to improve where Monta is a finished product.

Yep.

That and Jennings can dribble four times in a row without turning it over.

Ok then... ummm.. who is your 2nd favorite team? How about we trade him there so you can all watch him be wonderful and everyone can still be a little bit happy : )

I can actually say I don't understand that at all lol.

I'm not a massive Jennings guy, my point was wanting Monta to be our PG is laughable. Guy would have the worst PG handle in the league by about 50% - among other gross deficiencies specific to PG play.

-Jragon- · Post #707 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:48 am

Baddy and Luke secretly love Jennings because he's the best tank driver in the East : )

trwi7 · Post #708 » by **trwi7** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:52 am

-Jragon- wrote:Baddy and Luke secretly love Jennings because he's the best tank driver in the East : )

If he was the best tank driver in the East our record would actually indicate it. Since it doesn't, he's not. Ellis was pretty awesome helping us beat that one playoff team of about 10 we played after we traded for him.

Baddy Chuck · Post #709 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:53 am

-Jragon- wrote:Baddy and Luke secretly love Jennings because he's the best tank driver in the East : )

I easily think you win more games with Jennings at point guard then Monta so no, that's not the case. Monta just isn't a point guard.

RiotPunch · Post #710 » by **RiotPunch** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:56 am

Needed to be brought back. Sorry @-Jragon- #YearOfTheJragon #$wag

Edited... A few minor touches.

-Jragon- · Post #711 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:57 am

We'll have to agree to disagree. I think if Monta worked on his handle a little he'd be a beast at PG. His vision is amazing, he's a confident finisher at the rim (Jennings is too now), he draws contact (instead of Jennings who cowers from it), and he has the physical tools to embrace the job.

Now as a SG I see plenty of deficiencies and if that's the plan I say trade his a** right now. He's too small, can't defend them very well, and he can't.. well umm... shoot good enough from deep and that should be a requirement for "shooting" guard, right?

Post #712 » by **jr lucosa** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:57 am

RiotPunch wrote:Needed to be brought back. Sorry @-Jragon- #YearOfTheJragon #$wag

Baddy Chuck · Post #713 » by **Baddy Chuck** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 4:58 am

I don't know if we're talking about the same player if you think Monta's vision is "amazing".

-Jragon- · Post #714 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:00 am

NP I love it riot : )

mattg · Post #715 » by **mattg** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:00 am

-Jragon- wrote:We'll have to agree to disagree. I think if Monta worked on his handle a little he'd be a beast at PG. His vision is amazing, he's a confident finisher at the rim (Jennings is too now), he draws contact (instead of Jennings who cowers from it), and he has the physical tools to embrace the job.

Now as a SG I see plenty of deficiencies and if that's the plan I say trade his a** right now. He's too small, can't defend them very well, and he can't.. well umm... shoot good enough from deep and that should be a requirement for "shooting" guard, right?

Guys don't just develop a PG quality handle after like 7 years in the nba.

-Jragon- · Post #716 » by **-Jragon-** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:01 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:I don't know if we're talking about the same player if you think Monta's vision is "amazing".

Uh huh.. and you probably can't admit that he passes better off of the pick and roll, right (considering Jennings can't at all)

trwi7 · Post #717 » by **trwi7** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:01 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:I don't know if we're talking about the same player if you think Monta's vision is "amazing".

I think he just means he has 20/10 vision. No glasses or contacts for Monta.

thomchatt3rton · Post #718 » by **thomchatt3rton** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:03 am

Baddy Chuck wrote:The difference between Monta and Jennings really isn't that much and to say Jennings doesn't pass but Monta does is ludacris, both are me first chuckers. Only difference really is Jennings has a chance to improve where Monta is a finished product.

Both guys may be me-first chuckers, but Monta is better at me-first chucking than Brandon is.
Monta's much much much better at creating a reasonable shot for himself, and much better at getting to the line. He gets to the basket effectively, he can create space and square up for a quality jumper.
Also, I sorta disagree that Monta's a finished product- he's shown improvement in his passing lately. Still waiting for Brandon to become a guy who can do something other than either:
-pass off on the 3-point line
-fade a long range jumper/3
-penetrate and float a low-percentage shot.

I'd love to see Brandon make better decisions and capitalize on his skill-set. He hasn't yet, IMO.

That being said, I do not advocate extending Monta, but to say the only difference between the two is that BJ can improve and Monta can't doesn't seem at all accurate to me.

Post #719 » by **jr lucosa** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:05 am

RiotPunch · Post #720 » by **RiotPunch** » Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:05 am

-Jragon- wrote:NP I love it riot : )

Edited it for some extra hilarity.

Ironic since it is actually the year of the dragon. You must be $toked 24/7.