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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#921 » by Prez » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:21 am

Giannis took that dude's soul. He was genuinely a good center for Phoenix in that run and things were looking up for his career and then he gets swirlied and stuffed into a locker repeatedly by Giannis and he never recovered
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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#922 » by RogerMurdock » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:24 am

The funny thing about the Beasley investigation is that in the game ESPN cited, the suspicious money came in on the "under" for his rebounds, but he went way over, so all the bets lost.
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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#923 » by Ryan5UW » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:37 am

Prez wrote:Giannis took that dude's soul. He was genuinely a good center for Phoenix in that run and things were looking up for his career and then he gets swirlied and stuffed into a locker repeatedly by Giannis and he never recovered


Yeah, you’re absolutely right. And unless Giannis can give it back to him, I don’t have any interest in him, dude just doesn’t seem like a winning basketball player.
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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#924 » by Perishable517 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 5:38 am

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WeekapaugGroove wrote:aytons size coordination combo makes him playable even if he half asses it a decent portion of the time. He can actually be good when he locks in but that's also what's made him a frustrating player his whole career. He's his generations Tim Thomas.


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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#925 » by WeekapaugGroove » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:06 am

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paulpressey25 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:aytons size coordination combo makes him playable even if he half asses it a decent portion of the time. He can actually be good when he locks in but that's also what's made him a frustrating player his whole career. He's his generations Tim Thomas.


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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#926 » by tsamo » Mon Jun 30, 2025 6:52 am

Prez wrote:Giannis took that dude's soul. He was genuinely a good center for Phoenix in that run and things were looking up for his career and then he gets swirlied and stuffed into a locker repeatedly by Giannis and he never recovered

Yeah.
People seem to forget but in those playoffs, Ayton was averaging 16/12/1/1/1 on 68TS% as a 22 year old in his first playoffs ever and till the finals he had vastly contained the all-star big men he had faced in that stretch.

Davis: 17/7/3 on 54TS%
Jokic: 25/13/6 on 53TS%
Not even going to mention the Clippers' bigs rotation, lol.

It wasn't till the finals that Giannis beat him senseless and broke him.
Not sure I'd want him on the team, as there seem to be a lot of ups and downs with him.
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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#927 » by tedbrogen » Mon Jun 30, 2025 7:07 am

One positive note in Ayton is he helped lead to getting their coach fired, so I’d take him for that benefit alone.
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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#928 » by landoc88 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 9:23 am

If the Bucks land Ayton the first time he shows laziness Giannis is gonna bust his ass which might do Ayton some good.
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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#929 » by JayMKE » Mon Jun 30, 2025 10:13 am

I’m almost certain Ayton will be a Laker but sure I’d take him
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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#930 » by ShootingtheJ » Mon Jun 30, 2025 11:21 am

To get the most out of KPJ, we need a great culture around him, and that isn't Ayton.
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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#931 » by Daver » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:02 pm

[quote="landoc88"]If the Bucks land Ayton the first time he shows laziness Giannis is gonna bust his ass which might do Ayton some good.


Havnt heard anything negative come out of portland on this guy
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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#932 » by landoc88 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:27 pm

Daver wrote:
landoc88 wrote:If the Bucks land Ayton the first time he shows laziness Giannis is gonna bust his ass which might do Ayton some good.


Havnt heard anything negative come out of portland on this guy


The post wasn't to be negative on Ayton. I was just saying Ayton is known to take plays off. Giannis won't put up with with Ayton taking plays off that's all.
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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#933 » by MickeyDavis » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:31 pm

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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#934 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Jun 30, 2025 1:34 pm

Fascinated to see what Minnesota does. They were already a 2nd apron but with them now committing a **** ton more salary to their front court, there's gotta be some sort of cost saving move coming. Dumping Conley and/or Donte into another team's TPE or MLE seems like the obvious move.
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Post#935 » by emunney » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:03 pm

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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#936 » by emunney » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:04 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Fascinated to see what Minnesota does. They were already a 2nd apron but with them now committing a **** ton more salary to their front court, there's gotta be some sort of cost saving move coming. Dumping Conley and/or Donte into another team's TPE or MLE seems like the obvious move.


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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#937 » by jakecronus8 » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:16 pm

paulpressey25 wrote:
WeekapaugGroove wrote:aytons size coordination combo makes him playable even if he half asses it a decent portion of the time. He can actually be good when he locks in but that's also what's made him a frustrating player his whole career. He's his generations Tim Thomas.


Great comp.

I see a lot of Timmy in Ace Bailey.

ETA: Just say no to Ayton. Remember when Boogie was still near his prime and signed for the minimum with Golden State? Some guys just aren't winning personalities despite their amazing talents.
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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#938 » by Ron Swanson » Mon Jun 30, 2025 2:26 pm

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Re: ATL - Portland Buying out Ayton 

Post#939 » by Matches Malone » Mon Jun 30, 2025 3:56 pm

Bucks should try and get this kid on a two-way.

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