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Who do you think will be the #1 overall pick?

Deandre Ayton
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32%
Luka Doncic
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40%
Mohamed Bamba
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2%
Marvin Bagley III
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13%
Michael Porter Jr
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11%
Other
4
2%
 
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#961 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Tue May 8, 2018 1:57 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Zero percent chance he's the next AD. I'll settle for the next Clint Capela.

i think he, and shake milton are the two guys that make the most sense for the bucks at 17

i might be the only one, but i also like bates-diop as well
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Post#962 » by Ron Swanson » Tue May 8, 2018 2:05 pm

Gilgeous-Alexander is a guy I pray that is there at #17, but I think he's gonna absolutely kill it in the private workouts and ends up going mid-lottery, just like Mitchell did last year.
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Post#963 » by emunney » Tue May 8, 2018 2:06 pm

machu46 wrote:
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drone3 wrote:Mitchell could be the next AD, I doubt he's available at our slot.


Are we talking about the mystery guy that didn’t play college ball? If so I think he is closer to Robert Upshaw than AD. Despite his tools Western Kentucky was were he was going to go to school while AD was probably the biggest recruit in the last decade


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This is kind disingenuous if you followed his recruiting at all. He was one of the highest ranked recruits in his class and likely would have had his choice of pretty much any school he wanted but he committed to Texas A&M (which is nothing to scoff at) early on and then followed their coach to Western Kentucky (almost certainly being paid to do so).

Having said that I don't see him getting anywhere near AD as an NBA player lol; just saying that the idea that he can't be good because he had agreed to go to Western Kentucky is kinda missing the point.

It was Mississippi St. fwiw, but yeah he was a top 10 recruit.
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Post#964 » by machu46 » Tue May 8, 2018 2:14 pm

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machu46 wrote:
M-C-G wrote:
Are we talking about the mystery guy that didn’t play college ball? If so I think he is closer to Robert Upshaw than AD. Despite his tools Western Kentucky was were he was going to go to school while AD was probably the biggest recruit in the last decade


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This is kind disingenuous if you followed his recruiting at all. He was one of the highest ranked recruits in his class and likely would have had his choice of pretty much any school he wanted but he committed to Texas A&M (which is nothing to scoff at) early on and then followed their coach to Western Kentucky (almost certainly being paid to do so).

Having said that I don't see him getting anywhere near AD as an NBA player lol; just saying that the idea that he can't be good because he had agreed to go to Western Kentucky is kinda missing the point.

It was Mississippi St. fwiw, but yeah he was a top 10 recruit.


The 6-foot-11, 225-pound defensive-minded big man, who plays at Chalmette High in New Orleans, previously committed to Texas A&M, where Stansbury had recruited him as an assistant coach.

http://www.espn.com/recruiting/basketball/story/_/id/16620936/mitchell-robinson-no-15-player-2017-class-commits-western-kentucky

Stansbury was at Mississippi State way back when he thought he was getting Jonathan Bender
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Re: 2018 NBA Draft Thread 

Post#965 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Tue May 8, 2018 2:20 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Gilgeous-Alexander is a guy I pray that is there at #17, but I think he's gonna absolutely kill it in the private workouts and ends up going mid-lottery, just like Mitchell did last year.

i don't see him making it to #17

considering the bucks are still drafting length, i could see him or milton being targets
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Post#966 » by Matches Malone » Tue May 8, 2018 2:29 pm

Maybe it's just me, but I kind of hope we stop drafting or targeting based on length. This team needs NBA players and if we just continue to follow the failed attempt at making length our identity, I think we'll end up passing on better prospects. Not to say length isn't important, but I don't think you need to have gigantic wingspans across the board.
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Post#967 » by freewhitemoon » Tue May 8, 2018 2:35 pm

We could've gone with the all length strat and still ended up with good players last year. But somehow with OG and Allen on the board we got a long guy who is bad at basketball. Maybe they entered the wingspan measurements incorrectly for OG and Allen in their excel doc
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Post#968 » by Ron Swanson » Tue May 8, 2018 2:37 pm

Being tall and having long arms helps when you're playing basketball. That's something that's never going to change.
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Post#969 » by leroyjw10 » Tue May 8, 2018 2:46 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Zero percent chance he's the next AD. I'll settle for the next Clint Capela.

i think he, and shake milton are the two guys that make the most sense for the bucks at 17

i might be the only one, but i also like bates-diop as well


Agreed on Shake. Seems to have the body and skillset (offensively and defensively) to play the 1, 2 and 3, and has consistently shot over 40% from 3. I've seen the comp of Tyreke Evans with a jumpshot, which sounds pretty darn good to me.
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Post#970 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Tue May 8, 2018 2:53 pm

leroyjw10 wrote:
Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:
Ron Swanson wrote:Zero percent chance he's the next AD. I'll settle for the next Clint Capela.

i think he, and shake milton are the two guys that make the most sense for the bucks at 17

i might be the only one, but i also like bates-diop as well


Agreed on Shake. Seems to have the body and skillset (offensively and defensively) to play the 1, 2 and 3, and has consistently shot over 40% from 3. I've seen the comp of Tyreke Evans with a jumpshot, which sounds pretty darn good to me.

solid depth 3 & d wing with length?!?

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Post#971 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Tue May 8, 2018 2:55 pm

Matches Malone wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I kind of hope we stop drafting or targeting based on length. This team needs NBA players and if we just continue to follow the failed attempt at making length our identity, I think we'll end up passing on better prospects. Not to say length isn't important, but I don't think you need to have gigantic wingspans across the board.

they're not mutually exclusive...but yeah, i'm with you on the whole "team length" thing. i just want good solid basketball players around Giannis.

that being said, long arms and height will always help in the nba...and 3 & D wings who can switch are a huge bonus...hence why these two guys would make a lot of sense.
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Post#972 » by M-C-G » Tue May 8, 2018 2:56 pm

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Badgerlander wrote:Its painfully obvious that our biggest need is a ball handling guard that can break down a defense and shoot 3s off the dribble, but regardless always draft bpa




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Post#973 » by jschligs » Tue May 8, 2018 2:56 pm

Ron Swanson wrote:Being tall and having long arms helps when you're playing basketball. That's something that's never going to change.


It sure does, but it's not going to be at the top of my priority list when selecting a candidate. And if it is, our FO did a horrible job of looking at the other qualified candidates still on the board.
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Post#974 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Tue May 8, 2018 2:57 pm

TroyD92 wrote:Mitchell Robinson looks like he could be an interesting pick, no?

i've been saying it for a while....but i could easily see him being the bucks pick

not that i'm 100% sold on him...but knowing the bucks recent history, he makes sense being their guy
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Post#975 » by emunney » Tue May 8, 2018 2:58 pm

machu46 wrote:
emunney wrote:
machu46 wrote:
This is kind disingenuous if you followed his recruiting at all. He was one of the highest ranked recruits in his class and likely would have had his choice of pretty much any school he wanted but he committed to Texas A&M (which is nothing to scoff at) early on and then followed their coach to Western Kentucky (almost certainly being paid to do so).

Having said that I don't see him getting anywhere near AD as an NBA player lol; just saying that the idea that he can't be good because he had agreed to go to Western Kentucky is kinda missing the point.

It was Mississippi St. fwiw, but yeah he was a top 10 recruit.


The 6-foot-11, 225-pound defensive-minded big man, who plays at Chalmette High in New Orleans, previously committed to Texas A&M, where Stansbury had recruited him as an assistant coach.

http://www.espn.com/recruiting/basketball/story/_/id/16620936/mitchell-robinson-no-15-player-2017-class-commits-western-kentucky

Stansbury was at Mississippi State way back when he thought he was getting Jonathan Bender


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Post#976 » by M-C-G » Tue May 8, 2018 3:00 pm

machu46 wrote:
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drone3 wrote:Mitchell could be the next AD, I doubt he's available at our slot.


Are we talking about the mystery guy that didn’t play college ball? If so I think he is closer to Robert Upshaw than AD. Despite his tools Western Kentucky was were he was going to go to school while AD was probably the biggest recruit in the last decade


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This is kind disingenuous if you followed his recruiting at all. He was one of the highest ranked recruits in his class and likely would have had his choice of pretty much any school he wanted but he committed to Texas A&M (which is nothing to scoff at) early on and then followed their coach to Western Kentucky (almost certainly being paid to do so).

Having said that I don't see him getting anywhere near AD as an NBA player lol; just saying that the idea that he can't be good because he had agreed to go to Western Kentucky is kinda missing the point.


Definitely did not follow his recruiting what so ever, ignorant of his story would probably be more apt. I had heard he committed to W Kentucky and then withdrew or something and then was going back there and then withdrew again. I am guessing whatever I had read was just mistaken and it was the situation you had described.

And yeah, it was more a reason to scoff at the AD thing then to suggest good players don't end up going to less renowned programs.
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Post#977 » by jschligs » Tue May 8, 2018 3:01 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:Mitchell Robinson looks like he could be an interesting pick, no?

i've been saying it for a while....but i could easily see him being the bucks pick

not that i'm 100% sold on him...but knowing the bucks recent history, he makes sense being their guy


I just don't want to risk it on a player that had such an interesting recruitment period leading him to not play in college. It was just weird. Committed to WKU because of his uncle or something, then de-committed and was too late to go anywhere else.
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Post#978 » by M-C-G » Tue May 8, 2018 3:03 pm

Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:
Matches Malone wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I kind of hope we stop drafting or targeting based on length. This team needs NBA players and if we just continue to follow the failed attempt at making length our identity, I think we'll end up passing on better prospects. Not to say length isn't important, but I don't think you need to have gigantic wingspans across the board.

they're not mutually exclusive...but yeah, i'm with you on the whole "team length" thing. i just want good solid basketball players around Giannis.

that being said, long arms and height will always help in the nba...and 3 & D wings who can switch are a huge bonus...hence why these two guys would make a lot of sense.


The other thing that helps basketball players be good is having some sort of IQ, which there is a severe deficit of on this team. Getting a coach transplant may help part of that but I think we really need to identify more players that are smart and more players that are physical to compliment the rest of our roster.
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Post#979 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Tue May 8, 2018 3:05 pm

jschligs wrote:
Jimmmycrackcorn wrote:
TroyD92 wrote:Mitchell Robinson looks like he could be an interesting pick, no?

i've been saying it for a while....but i could easily see him being the bucks pick

not that i'm 100% sold on him...but knowing the bucks recent history, he makes sense being their guy


I just don't want to risk it on a player that had such an interesting recruitment period leading him to not play in college. It was just weird. Committed to WKU because of his uncle or something, then de-committed and was too late to go anywhere else.

totally understand...but this was a very highly sought after player in his recruiting class

lots of talent slipping due to not playing college ball

might be a chance to really steal a player here
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Post#980 » by Jimmmycrackcorn » Tue May 8, 2018 3:06 pm

M-C-G wrote:
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Matches Malone wrote:Maybe it's just me, but I kind of hope we stop drafting or targeting based on length. This team needs NBA players and if we just continue to follow the failed attempt at making length our identity, I think we'll end up passing on better prospects. Not to say length isn't important, but I don't think you need to have gigantic wingspans across the board.

they're not mutually exclusive...but yeah, i'm with you on the whole "team length" thing. i just want good solid basketball players around Giannis.

that being said, long arms and height will always help in the nba...and 3 & D wings who can switch are a huge bonus...hence why these two guys would make a lot of sense.


The other thing that helps basketball players be good is having some sort of IQ, which there is a severe deficit of on this team. Getting a coach transplant may help part of that but I think we really need to identify more players that are smart and more players that are physical to compliment the rest of our roster.

which is why i really like shake...seems to have a good basketball IQ

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