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Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Bucks to sign Boogie,pg 26 

Post#1 » by MickeyDavis » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:16 am

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#2 » by raferfenix » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:39 am

I think Allen knowingly took a discount to lock in the Bucks’ commitment to him as the starting SG.

Grayson is going to tear it up this year.

He didn’t make as big a sacrifice as Bobby did but I don’t think there will be any doubt that Allen could have earned more next summer after he shows what he can do with all the wide open 3’s Giannis provides.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#3 » by FlagsFlyForever » Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:25 am

There's something to be said about Hill coming back and guys like Giannis, Portis, Allen who have options willingly re-signing here. Players have publicly given Horst credit for the team culture, but it starts at the top with ownership.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#4 » by drew881 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:34 am

I don’t think Allen is going to have big numbers. He’ll get 20 some nights and 5 the next depending on where the ball goes and the match ups. So I think this was a good contract on both sides. I’m more psyched because Horst now has Donte’s balls in a vise. No bidding against yourself Gooden contracts to be given out here.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#5 » by drew881 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 2:35 am

FlagsFlyForever wrote:There's something to be said about Hill coming back and guys like Giannis, Portis, Allen who have options willingly re-signing here. Players have publicly given Horst credit for the team culture, but it starts at the top with ownership.


I think it starts with Giannis being here and signing here.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#6 » by paulpressey25 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:12 am

That’s a fantastic contract for the Bucks. No long term risk. And a good trading contract due to size and short length.

Have to figure Allen wanted lifetime security and knows he’ll get massive open looks here.
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Post#7 » by HurricaneKid » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:21 am

I'm more than a little surprised. I think it means at least one of Donte and BroLo is on their way out after this year, quite possibly both. Sure it means Donte's options are pretty dire. But it also means there's a big bill coming and anyone not locked up is gonna have a tough time getting much more from the owners. And there are more than a few guys who thought they were getting a bag next summer (Patty, DD, Portis,etc).

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#8 » by Pachinko_ » Tue Oct 19, 2021 4:08 am

I like Grayson (I have no opinion on what happened in College, I wasn't watching)
But he is a true shooting guard, more so than Donte, and we needed that. Donte will shoot with no hesitation when open, which is great, but Allen has the ability to take it one step further and create or even force reasonable efficiency shots, if needed. And it will be needed at times when everything else grinds to a halt. Starting five is now really really hard to defend.
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Post#9 » by HKPackFan » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:12 am

This pretty much spells the end of Donte right?

They won't double up at SG when they have center to figure out next year right?
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Post#10 » by Jez2983 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:39 am

This is rad. Great job Horts.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#11 » by CharityStripe34 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:42 am

They must really love what they see with Allen as a floor-spacer and willing defender. Good deal for both sides.

I also think a couple of guys may be allowed to walk next year (Brook, Donte, Bobby, etc.) if they're looking for giant money.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#12 » by old skool » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:56 am

For me, the big unknown is who does Horst have in his crosshairs as a potential mid season acquisition? Horst has added a playoff rotation player mid-season in each of the last three seasons. So far those players, Mirotic, Marvin Williams, and PJ, have all left the team. If Horst deals a higher profile player like DiVincenzo, it might be for a player who the Bucks retain for 2021-22.

Big picture, the Bucks have committed to Antetokounmpo that they will stay competitive while he is on the team. They can't do that without adding some key pieces as Lopez, and eventually Holiday and Middleton age. Presumably, those additions will have to be up and coming players on value contracts and ring chasing vets on team friendly deals. With a luxury tax bill north of $41-million this season and facing the challenge of a hard cap, Horst will have to be thinking multiple moves ahead at all times. As long as they have the superstar that is Giannis, I think they have to keep adding payroll and incurring a huge tax bill.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#13 » by old skool » Tue Oct 19, 2021 5:58 am

And the trade for Allen, followed by the contract extension, looks exactly like Horst is thinking multiple moves ahead.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#14 » by drone3 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:00 am

What does Donte get us in a trade?
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#15 » by HKPackFan » Tue Oct 19, 2021 8:02 am

old skool wrote:And the trade for Allen, followed by the contract extension, looks exactly like Horst is thinking multiple moves ahead.



I also think he's going to keep his eyes open for the right situation. As stuff unfolds during the course of the season, "I don't want to be here" kinda stuff happens and someone unexpectedly could become available.

I do like that he tweaks the roster mid-season. The third try was really the final touch. It reminds me exactly of bringing in andre rison for the Packers in 96.

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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#16 » by AussieBuck » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:23 am

HKPackFan wrote:This pretty much spells the end of Donte right?

They won't double up at SG when they have center to figure out next year right?

Nah, Donte is the third guard. The three of them can cover both guard spots. Donte is still super valuable as the guy who can guard PGs when Jrue is off hunting a SG or SF.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#17 » by RiotPunch » Tue Oct 19, 2021 11:25 am

HKPackFan wrote:This pretty much spells the end of Donte right?

They won't double up at SG when they have center to figure out next year right?

Not necessarily. Price still might be right in the end.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#18 » by Ron Swanson » Tue Oct 19, 2021 12:55 pm

By the time BroLo's current deal runs out , he'll have made over $150 milllion in career earnings. I'm betting he'll be fine with taking the Bobby deal (2-yrs $9 million with a PO) given his age and how much he's appreciated and loved here (well, Milwaukee....not RealGM). Just roll with him until the wheels fall off.
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#19 » by tydett » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:01 pm

Bucks are in a unique position. If the Bucks can run it back (or come reasonably close), the only other teams that are in their stratosphere are relying on guys going into their mid/late-30s with much less sure roster construction around them. The Bucks, if all breaks go their way, could be looking at a 4 year title window. You just hope the ownership is willing to accept the short-term financial losses that would come with using the salary cap rules to their full potential for the long term gains (although, as our owners surely know from Economics 101, in the long run we're all dead).
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Re: Bucks News, Trade Ideas, Transactions - Grayson Extended - 2/$20 million 

Post#20 » by WRau1 » Tue Oct 19, 2021 1:02 pm

Very good contract, I don't see this as DD's end though. Allen and DD are both ideal role players and you can never have enough of those guys around your star(s). Hopefully, DD takes a similar contract.
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