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Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#501 » by cmoss84 » Today 5:04 am

Not an exciting one, but one that makes us better, nonetheless.

Charlotte in: Looney and Miller
New Orleans in: RD
Minnesota in: Alvarado and Plumlee
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#502 » by Loaf_of_bread » Today 5:06 am

Domejandro wrote:It’s a shame that there isn’t a good format for obtaining James Harden, should the Clippers continue to suck. He has been balling out of his mind this season.

I don’t think Minnesota would be comfortable trading Naz Reid which instantly kills the package (omitting Gobert/Edwards/McDaniels/Randle). I would take the risk, but I get why others wouldn’t. I think the Clippers would consider the package I keep spamming at the Trade Deadline, if he asked out (honestly, he might just be happy in LA, which would makes it dead on arrival).

Funnily enough, I Googled his stats and just learned that he dropped 55 today. This post was completely written without that knowledge.


Guy is inconsistent come playoff time.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#503 » by cmoss84 » Today 5:20 am

cmoss84 wrote:Last one for me...but I much prefer trading for Harden than Giannis.

Something like Randle, RD, and TSJ
FOR
Harden and Paul

Harden. ANT. Jaden. Naz. Rudy.
I think this is my favorite trade opportunity.


Ya"ll are talking about Harden and Paul, but I got crickets when I proposed this one!
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#504 » by Loaf_of_bread » Today 5:32 am

cmoss84 wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:Last one for me...but I much prefer trading for Harden than Giannis.

Something like Randle, RD, and TSJ
FOR
Harden and Paul

Harden. ANT. Jaden. Naz. Rudy.
I think this is my favorite trade opportunity.


Ya"ll are talking about Harden and Paul, but I got crickets when I proposed this one!


We aren't beating okc but getting rid of Randle no matter what works. Good work!
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#505 » by cmoss84 » Today 5:42 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:Last one for me...but I much prefer trading for Harden than Giannis.

Something like Randle, RD, and TSJ
FOR
Harden and Paul

Harden. ANT. Jaden. Naz. Rudy.
I think this is my favorite trade opportunity.


Ya"ll are talking about Harden and Paul, but I got crickets when I proposed this one!


We aren't beating okc but getting rid of Randle no matter what works. Good work!


Don't know what to tell you man. Have a way better chance of beating okc with my lineup than the current one.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#506 » by Domejandro » Today 5:48 am

shrink wrote:I continue to see the Clippers struggling and hope for the Chris Paul. He just announced he will retire at the end of the year, and maybe just wants to retire with the Clippers, but if the competitive Paul wants to be on a contender, we would likely start him. For those that say we need a traditional PG, you can’t get more traditional than Paul. He still is a smart defender and can make assists, and no one in the NBA has more experience throwing lobs, so he’d add three dunks a game for Gobert. At 40, he can’t bring much else, but we could have used his professionalism last night,and we would have a youthful Mike Conley (38) to back him up. He’s on a vet min, which is out price range.

I love Chris Paul and wouldn't be opposed to it, but being honest, the wheels have really come off this season. It's been pretty rough, even though I think he could help the team in small spurts.

The big issue though is that Chris Paul specifically went to the Los Angeles Clippers because his family lives in Los Angeles and he wanted to finish his career in an environment where he can go home to his family most nights. I think he has zero interest in leaving that situation.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#507 » by Slim Tubby » Today 5:51 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:Last one for me...but I much prefer trading for Harden than Giannis.

Something like Randle, RD, and TSJ
FOR
Harden and Paul

Harden. ANT. Jaden. Naz. Rudy.
I think this is my favorite trade opportunity.


Ya"ll are talking about Harden and Paul, but I got crickets when I proposed this one!


We aren't beating okc but getting rid of Randle no matter what works. Good work!
"Getting rid of Randle no matter what"

I just don't understand this line of thinking. You certainly can't reach this assessment based on:

* His productivity.

* His contract.

* His position and lack of depth behind him.

* His attitude.

* The way he handles his business off the court.

You can make a strong argument that he's been our best player this year. My guess is that you're still bitter about the KAT trade and hold him accountable for it. What else could it be?

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#508 » by Loaf_of_bread » Today 6:03 am

Slim Tubby wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:
Ya"ll are talking about Harden and Paul, but I got crickets when I proposed this one!


We aren't beating okc but getting rid of Randle no matter what works. Good work!
"Getting rid of Randle no matter what"

I just don't understand this line of thinking. You certainly can't reach this assessment based on:

* His productivity.

* His contract.

* His position and lack of depth behind him.

* His attitude.

* The way he handles his business off the court.

You can make a strong argument that he's been our best player this year. My guess is that you're still bitter about the KAT trade and hold him accountable for it. What else could it be?

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Julius randle will not be on any championship winning roster unless he is at the end of his playing career. Same goes for KAT.

Anyone that thinks Julius can win a championship in the near future doesn't understand the intangibles of winning bb.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 1[emoji239[emoji2394]]): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#509 » by minimus » Today 7:37 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
Julius randle will not be on any championship winning roster unless he is at the end of his playing career. Same goes for KAT.

Anyone that thinks Julius can win a championship in the near future doesn't understand the intangibles of winning bb.


I've heard that about Love and KG.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#510 » by Note30 » Today 7:51 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
We aren't beating okc but getting rid of Randle no matter what works. Good work!
"Getting rid of Randle no matter what"

I just don't understand this line of thinking. You certainly can't reach this assessment based on:

* His productivity.

* His contract.

* His position and lack of depth behind him.

* His attitude.

* The way he handles his business off the court.

You can make a strong argument that he's been our best player this year. My guess is that you're still bitter about the KAT trade and hold him accountable for it. What else could it be?

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Julius randle will not be on any championship winning roster unless he is at the end of his playing career. Same goes for KAT.

Anyone that thinks Julius can win a championship in the near future doesn't understand the intangibles of winning bb.


Lol
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#511 » by Note30 » Today 8:54 am

MIN In: Giannis, Alex Antenakoumpo
MIN Out: Julius, Jaden, Beringer,Dilly, TSJ, 2032 1st

Send Beringer, Dilly, TSJ, to another team to get more assets to send to the Bucks.


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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#512 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Today 12:27 pm

Giannis will make us a contender immediately. But i doubt Bucks will have any interest.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#513 » by KGdaBom » Today 12:47 pm

Slim Tubby wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
cmoss84 wrote:
Ya"ll are talking about Harden and Paul, but I got crickets when I proposed this one!


We aren't beating okc but getting rid of Randle no matter what works. Good work!
"Getting rid of Randle no matter what"

I just don't understand this line of thinking. You certainly can't reach this assessment based on:

* His productivity.

* His contract.

* His position and lack of depth behind him.

* His attitude.

* The way he handles his business off the court.

You can make a strong argument that he's been our best player this year. My guess is that you're still bitter about the KAT trade and hold him accountable for it. What else could it be?

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Loaf obviously despises Randle and it defies all logic.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#514 » by Slim Tubby » Today 2:59 pm

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
Slim Tubby wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:
We aren't beating okc but getting rid of Randle no matter what works. Good work!
"Getting rid of Randle no matter what"

I just don't understand this line of thinking. You certainly can't reach this assessment based on:

* His productivity.

* His contract.

* His position and lack of depth behind him.

* His attitude.

* The way he handles his business off the court.

You can make a strong argument that he's been our best player this year. My guess is that you're still bitter about the KAT trade and hold him accountable for it. What else could it be?

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Julius randle will not be on any championship winning roster unless he is at the end of his playing career. Same goes for KAT.

Anyone that thinks Julius can win a championship in the near future doesn't understand the intangibles of winning bb.


Good grief. You should probably start an immediate global campaign to remove the following players from the HOF for lack of "winning intangibles":

Elgin Baylor
Pete Maravich
George "The Iceman" Gervin
Charles Barkley
Allen Iverson
Karl Malone
John Stockton
Patrick Ewing
Reggie Miller
Steve Nash

Apparently, your loaf of bread is missing a few slices, sir. For your sake, please stay far away from the toaster.

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#515 » by Norseman79 » Today 3:14 pm

The only reason I would trade Julius Randle is because he gets us the best return outside of Edwards. The player I would be looking to trade most right now is Gobert, and it has nothing to do with how he's playing as much as what he's paid. There was another thread about predictions and I stated that we will see multiple big trades that reshape the roster after struggling. This team has no general, it often feels like it has no plan. Mike Conley Jr of 5 to 10 years ago even completely changes what we have. But that's not who he is anymore and we don't have anyone like it on the roster. I go back to trading anybody not named Edwards or McDaniels (it would take a lot for me to move Jaden).

And it's time for a new coach...
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#516 » by jscott » Today 3:30 pm

Norseman79 wrote:The only reason I would trade Julius Randle is because he gets us the best return outside of Edwards. The player I would be looking to trade most right now is Gobert, and it has nothing to do with how he's playing as much as what he's paid. There was another thread about predictions and I stated that we will see multiple big trades that reshape the roster after struggling. This team has no general, it often feels like it has no plan. Mike Conley Jr of 5 to 10 years ago even completely changes what we have. But that's not who he is anymore and we don't have anyone like it on the roster. I go back to trading anybody not named Edwards or McDaniels (it would take a lot for me to move Jaden).

And it's time for a new coach...

If winning over the next 2-3 years matters to you at all then Rudy is probably the 2nd to last guy you wanna trade. He also doesn’t make that much - he makes starter money.

Calling for a new coach is a joke take.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 18): Early Season Panic Edition 

Post#517 » by shrink » 35 minutes ago

Loaf_of_bread wrote:Julius Randle will not be on any championship winning roster unless he is at the end of his playing career. Same goes for KAT.

Anyone that thinks Julius can win a championship in the near future doesn't understand the intangibles of winning bb.

I disagree as well, but in Loaf’s defense, Randle played badly in his first two playoff appearances in NYK. Despite the heavy load, and playing injured, the New York press scapegoated him, and I think that reputation of being a poor playoff performer stuck with him (and fortunately for us, made him available in trade!)

I think those concerns disappeared after Randle’s spectacular playoff series against the Lakers and the Warriors. OKC has made everyone look bad and crushes their overall stats. Despite that, Randle averaged 21.7 PPG on a .568 eFG%. He was the Wolves’ best playoff player, not Ant.

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