Iggy to Minny

[Peezo]

Don't take on Brand.

That is all you need to know.

[C.lupus]

Yep. Brand is a deal killer.

[cpfsf]

Don't take on Brand.

That is all you need to know.

We'd have to trade half of our roster for that even to work.

[shrink]

There's no way that an Iggy + Brand pairing would be worth

2010-11: $28.3 mil
2011-12: $30.6 mil
2012-13: $32.8 mil
2013-14: $15.9 mil (Iggy alone)
$107.6 million dollars

We don't have enough bad salary to throw back at them to make a Brand + Iggy deal close to fair.

[cpfsf]

It will really become so much more important to add Rubio in 2011 if we add Iguodala. That's a pretty big cap space hit right there.

[Esohny]

It will really become so much more important to add Rubio in 2011 if we add Iguodala. That's a pretty big cap space hit right there.

We will always have the option to sign Rubio for his rookie contract, no matter how much cap space there is.

[B Calrissian]

It will really become so much more important to add Rubio in 2011 if we add Iguodala. That's a pretty big cap space hit right there.

We will always have the option to sign Rubio for his rookie contract, no matter how much cap space there is.

After 2011 we still have the option but he also has the option to ask for more. I think that is what cpfsf is saying.

[cpfsf]

It will really become so much more important to add Rubio in 2011 if we add Iguodala. That's a pretty big cap space hit right there.

We will always have the option to sign Rubio for his rookie contract, no matter how much cap space there is.

After 2011 we still have the option but he also has the option to ask for more. I think that is what cpfsf is saying.

I thought it would be a given that he would get more. Sigh, I don't like looking into this crap. As soon as we get Rubio, than it just becomes useless knowledge.

[B Calrissian]

I thought it would be a given that he would get more. Sigh, I don't like looking into this crap. As soon as we get Rubio, than it just becomes useless knowledge.

Well yeah he will probably want more. I was just saying that becomes an option for him after 2011.

[Worm Guts]

I don't think any European has gotten more than the MLE before playing in the NBA.

[shrink]

I thought it would be a given that he would get more. Sigh, I don't like looking into this crap. As soon as we get Rubio, than it just becomes useless knowledge.

If Rubio comes over next year, he will still be on the rookie scale, with the same salary as the 5-pick from the 2011 draft, plus the standard 20% raise. If he comes over in 2012, after three years elsewhere, then he can be signed for any amount.

HOWEVER, that loophole only exists if the current Collective Bargaining Agreement remains identical after next year's discussions, and potential lock-out. My guess is that the NBA Board of Governors, who last month elected Glen Taylor to lead them, will want to protect themselves from high salaries from rookie-but-not-really Euros that might demand more money. This would be good for the Wolves as well -- I just hope that the Rubio camp doesn't see this as Taylor targetting Rubio's bank account.

I hope that simplifies it.

[cpfsf]

I thought it would be a given that he would get more. Sigh, I don't like looking into this crap. As soon as we get Rubio, than it just becomes useless knowledge.

If Rubio comes over next year, he will still be on the rookie scale, with the same salary as the 5-pick from the 2011 draft, plus the standard 20% raise. If he comes over in 2012, after three years elsewhere, then he can be signed for any amount.

HOWEVER, that loophole only exists if the current Collective Bargaining Agreement remains identical after next year's discussions, and potential lock-out. My guess is that the NBA Board of Governors, who last month elected Glen Taylor to lead them, will want to protect themselves from high salaries from rookie-but-not-really Euros that might demand more money. This would be good for the Wolves as well -- I just hope that the Rubio camp doesn't see this as Taylor targetting Rubio's bank account.

I hope that simplifies it.

That was my basic understanding of it, but I need something cleared up. If we are over the salary cap, is the most we can offer the MLE? If he demands more, what happens to Rubio? We still hold his rights after all. Is Fran Vazquez in the same situation as Rubio?

[Foshan]

if your over the cap, but you hold his rights, i'm pretty sure you can sign him to more than mle

[Worm Guts]

I'm pretty sure you can't. But like I said before, a European with no NBA experience getting more than the MLE is pretty much unprecedented.

[sisibilio]

if your over the cap, but you hold his rights, i'm pretty sure you can sign him to more than mle

I guess not. Well, maybe if you had a huge injured player exception or something like that but i'm not sure.

Anyway, barring a lockout i'm 87.35% sure that Rubio will play next season in Minny.