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Post#101 » by moss_is_1 » Tue Jan 4, 2011 9:43 pm

Greco21 wrote:Varejao is not a basketball player. He should be a sharlatan at Holywood or a former mediocre tennis player.

The NBA is in huge slum when guys like him find a position at a roster.

Tiago Splitter is tons better than him.

Watch more basketball.
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Post#102 » by Greco21 » Tue Jan 4, 2011 9:47 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:
Greco21 wrote:Varejao is not a basketball player. He should be a sharlatan at Holywood or a former mediocre tennis player.

The NBA is in huge slum when guys like him find a position at a roster.

Tiago Splitter is tons better than him.

Watch more basketball.


I do not think that Varejao plays basketball. Its something else. Its a combination of balllet with wrestling. I do not like either ballet or wrestling.

I love basketball
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Post#103 » by NewWolvesOrder » Tue Jan 4, 2011 9:51 pm

Greco21 wrote:Varejao is not a basketball player. He should be a sharlatan at Holywood or a former mediocre tennis player.

The NBA is in huge slum when guys like him find a position at a roster.

Tiago Splitter is tons better than him.


Your personal animosity towards the guy doesn't make him bad at basketball :nonono:
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Post#104 » by funkatron101 » Tue Jan 4, 2011 9:53 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:
Greco21 wrote:Varejao is not a basketball player. He should be a sharlatan at Holywood or a former mediocre tennis player.

The NBA is in huge slum when guys like him find a position at a roster.

Tiago Splitter is tons better than him.

Watch more basketball.

Are you questioning his IQ?
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Post#105 » by C.lupus » Tue Jan 4, 2011 9:55 pm

Different guy, I think.
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Post#106 » by Greco21 » Tue Jan 4, 2011 10:02 pm

It is a flameproof thread after all. Varejaos name printed is causing feelings :P
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Post#107 » by Greco21 » Tue Jan 4, 2011 10:04 pm

funkatron101 wrote:
moss_is_1 wrote:
Greco21 wrote:Varejao is not a basketball player. He should be a sharlatan at Holywood or a former mediocre tennis player.

The NBA is in huge slum when guys like him find a position at a roster.

Tiago Splitter is tons better than him.

Watch more basketball.

Are you questioning his IQ?


Excuse me?
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Post#108 » by funkatron101 » Tue Jan 4, 2011 10:11 pm

Greco21 wrote:Excuse me?

Ok....you are excused.
Lattimer wrote:Cracks me up that people still think that Wiggins will be involved in the trade for Love. Wolves are out of their mind if they think they are getting Wiggins for Love.
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Post#109 » by moss_is_1 » Tue Jan 4, 2011 10:20 pm

Greco21 wrote:
moss_is_1 wrote:
Greco21 wrote:Varejao is not a basketball player. He should be a sharlatan at Holywood or a former mediocre tennis player.

The NBA is in huge slum when guys like him find a position at a roster.

Tiago Splitter is tons better than him.

Watch more basketball.


I do not think that Varejao plays basketball. Its something else. Its a combination of balllet with wrestling. I do not like either ballet or wrestling.

I love basketball

I think he does play basketball, that's why he's in the NBA. He's effective at what he does. Sure it may be annoying, but he's a very good man defender, and also a help defender because he draws a lot of charges.
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Post#110 » by Greco21 » Tue Jan 4, 2011 10:32 pm

moss_is_1 wrote:I think he does play basketball, that's why he's in the NBA. He's effective at what he does. Sure it may be annoying, but he's a very good man defender, and also a help defender because he draws a lot of charges.


I' ll give you that. He is smart (actually clever is the word that fits) especially on defense. I hate people that dive for charges (offensive fouls) and i know that the NBA tries to find a solution for divers.
But OK... i have seen Vlade Divac playing smart and making Shaq struggle and foul out. I have seen Brad Doherty playing smart. Just remember starting Centers at the NBA during the 90s... and then i see Varejaos name on a thread for a player that would make the difference for the team.

I would prefer Randolph over Varejao... 8-)
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Post#111 » by Grits n Gravy » Tue Jan 4, 2011 11:14 pm

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Turnover_21 wrote:1) Darko is too foul prone to play 30 minutes every night, he proved it too many times this season, he's also quite injury prone, and I'm not sure he's a better player than Varejao. I don't see AV playing 18 mpg to Darko's 30 mpg.

2)Why is that? Varejao played PF successfully next to Big Z who's much less mobile than Darko. I just find it to be a very ignorant statement.


Watch how you throw around the word ignorant. A less restrained poster would open up on you with both barrels for that kind of crap. Varejao could play next to Big Z because Big Z had a JUMP SHOT. Neither Varejao or Darko can even consistently hit a 10 footer, you can't even run a pick and roll with either of them. It's my OPINION that they would be a very ugly frontcourt on the offensive end which cancels out the defensive benefit. Even if you pair them at the end of the game to protect a lead, you
a.) take Love out of the Game
b.) put 2 really crappy FT shooters in there to rebound.
I also don't see Rambis as the type of coach who would run a 3-man rotation at the PF/C spots or who would trade offense for defense. He hasn't played Pek/Darko together all year and won't run a 3-man wing rotation either.

Darko is too foul prone to play 30 mins? He averages 4.1 fouls per 30 minutes. Before he got hurt he had a streak where he played 32 minutes in 5 consecutive games and 29:35 in 7 straight. A streak that coincided with 6 straight games of 3+ blocks and 8 straight 2+ block games. He's fouled out 4 times in 33 starts. He hasn't regained his mobility since the injury, which causes him to foul more. Let him get healthy. Varejao has blocked 3+ shots 4 times all year, and did so 6 times in 76 games last year. I just don't see him as the kind of defensive difference maker that you guys think he is.

There's one other big advantage Darko has on Varejao: a post game. Since Love is not a post threat that is extra important, it keeps the defense honest and creates spacing for shooters.

I just think that better and cheaper options will come along in the next 2-3 years. Give Pek more than 30 games to prove he can't be an adequate backup. I'd rather go after Przybilla, Dalembert, or Nazr Mohammed on a cheap deal in the offseason, or even take a chance on Oden.

I'll give you the point on experience eyeteeth, I just think that a) Varejao is not the only option if we are looking for experience, and b.) experience isn't going to matter for 2-3 years until we start winning, and by that time Pek's learning curve should have caught up to his talent. (Ricky is going to need some seasoning too). Pek has lots of Pro experience, just not at this level under this set of rules.

I guess I turned the anthony randolph thread into the flameproof sideshow bob thread.


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Post#112 » by Krapinsky » Wed Jan 5, 2011 2:00 am

Instead of all this Utah or Memphis pick talk would you give up our cap space for the year for Magic Randolph? Shrink made a number of these proposals not too long ago. I may try and refresh one.

For instance --

Curry + Randolph for Telfair works in the trade checker.

We get to keep our picks. We use up our cap, but we still get an expiring player that could be dealt at the deadline (Curry). Taylor might approve because Curry's deal is insured. Kahn, in talking to a number of teams, might be finding that there really isn't a better offer out there to rent our cap space for the year. Maybe we send them Koufos in order to ditch his contract next year.

Although this is the simplified version from the Wolve's perspective, NY would probably be looking at making this a three team deal. Melo is the likely target in which case Denver would get under the luxury tax. However, if they know Melo can't be had, maybe they do this for a rental of someone like Dalembert?
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