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Would you still trade Williams for Gordon?

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Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#1 » by Krapinsky » Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:09 pm

Now that Williams is emerging and Gordon hasn't played all year? I'm curious to see if people's opinions have changed. I've become more wary of Gordon myself. I don't put a lot of trust in wing players that are injury prone and have recent knee issues.

I'd still love to get Gordon but only for the right price. I feel like trading Williams might be overbidding at this point.
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Re: Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#2 » by Mattya » Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:13 pm

I haven't put much attention toward the hornets or Gordon since the beginning of the season. I thought I read that he was quoted as saying he had some cartilage problems, not sure so do quote me, but that is a major turn off.
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Re: Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#3 » by Klomp » Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:31 pm

Considering I wouldn't trade Williams for Gordon before, no my opinion hasn't changed. Gordon has played 2 of 39 games this season. Williams has played in 40 of 40 games this season.
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Re: Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#4 » by Breakdown777 » Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:37 pm

If Gordon would sign an extension here at a fair price, I think I'd probably pull the trigger. I don't think Gordon would sign an extension here without us massively overpaying though, So I don't foresee this happening.
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Re: Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#5 » by jpatrick » Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:39 pm

As long as Gordon checks out medically, I'd do it. I think Williams will be good, but to me he's a PF who might be able to play some SF but would be playing out of position. Gordon on the othrr hand is a perfect fit for what we need, other than his penchant for getting hurt.
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Post#6 » by EddyCool » Thu Mar 8, 2012 10:48 pm

No way. Gordon is about to be expensive and will always be unreliable in health. Much better to have Derrick and be able to try for a guy like Batum this off-season or Harden next. I'd take him at that right price, but that price is nowhere near what I'd give for those guys. Definitely not DW.
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Re: Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#7 » by Saltine » Thu Mar 8, 2012 11:29 pm

I think Gordon is heading to Indiana, they will have massive cap space, and it's his hometown team... that said, if he was healthy I'd still do the deal in a sign and trade. No way otherwise. His knee issue is much the same as Lee's, not a big deal, though his propensity for getting injured makes me think he needs a new training regimen.
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Post#8 » by Narf » Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:04 am

Gordon for cap space at $12 mil a year? Sure.
Gordon for Williams at $12 mil a year? No.
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Post#9 » by change » Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:07 am

never would have, gordon's health is ridiculous
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Re: Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#10 » by [RCG] » Fri Mar 9, 2012 1:28 am

I think Gordon would be a very good fit BUT Indiana is going to throw a lot of money at him and I can see the Hornets matching. If I'm the Wolves I clear out enough cap-space to throw $12.5 or $13 million at him with an insured contract. At least when Pacers or Hornets match they'll have overpaid.
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Re: Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#11 » by pumunga » Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:30 am

before i would not have. now i think i would.
i know this is a site where your supposed to explain the reasoning behind your post... but theres no real explanation here. he got his injuries out of his way.
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Re: Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#12 » by Basti » Fri Mar 9, 2012 12:37 pm

One thing to remember is that New Orleans has been tanking all season long. Not sure how much this fact plays into Gordon being out pretty much all year long. I wouldn't be surprised if the Hornets management and coaching staff held him out longer than necessary.

However, if Gordon had knee/health issues when he was on the Clippers, I guess my point is moot.

Edit: just checked his profile. He has missed 20+ games during the last three years. Ugh.
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Re: Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#13 » by guille_4 » Fri Mar 9, 2012 2:22 pm

I really like Eric Gordon. I think he is arguably the best young SG in the league, before this season I had always put him above Harden. However, considering a) he wants to sign a long contract, b) his injury
profile, and c)Clippers traded him away because he wanted almost a MAX contract, I wouldn't trade
a future serviceable starter like Derrick Williams for him.

However, If he wanted to play for us for 42M/4y, I would definitely trade for him as long as he passes the health tests. Injuries apart he is a top 5 SG who would fit terribly well in our team.
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Post#14 » by jpatrick » Fri Mar 9, 2012 3:59 pm

If "reports" are to be believed, Gordon turned down around 4yrs / $50m from the Hornets at the extension deadline and wanted at least 4/58. If the Hornets offered $50m, they'll match anything another team can throw at Gordon. Not us or Indiana is going to get him as a FA. How big of a laughing stock would Stern look like if the two main assets he traded Paul away for ended up being a middlle round first (ours) and a player who left as a FA after playing two games in New Orleans. It's not going to happen.

Now, I think the Hornets will be very open to sign and trade offers this offseason though. I could see a Granger for Gordon swap or if we're involved, a Williams for Gordon deal, but I don't see anything happening at the deadline.
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Re: Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#15 » by Worm Guts » Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:16 pm

New Orleans isn't trading for Granger, they're going to want youth. Granger is 29.
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Re: Would you still trade Williams for Gordon? 

Post#16 » by john2jer » Fri Mar 9, 2012 4:56 pm

guille_4 wrote:I really like Eric Gordon. I think he is arguably the best young SG in the league, before this season I had always put him above Harden. However, considering a) he wants to sign a long contract, b) his injury
profile, and c)Clippers traded him away because he wanted almost a MAX contract, I wouldn't trade
a future serviceable starter like Derrick Williams for him.

However, If he wanted to play for us for 42M/4y, I would definitely trade for him as long as he passes the health tests. Injuries apart he is a top 5 SG who would fit terribly well in our team.

This sums up my thoughts perfectly.

He's a HUGE injury risk, no chance I blow a huge load on a guy that we'd never be confident that he'd be healthy. Trading Williams and then having to give him a huge contract so we didn't lose him for nothing definitely is a stupid idea.

Keep Williams, then offer a sign and trade in the summer. If that gets him, then awesome. If not, oh well.
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