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Operation Beast: Prospect Thread II

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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#101 » by horaceworthy » Mon Apr 19, 2010 12:48 am

revprodeji wrote:If we move Flynn, then we can draft a pg with that 23rd pick that fits in the triangle mold. (Warren/Bradley/Williams) Let Sessions start and then move him in the off-season. Bring Rubio over with his back-up in place.

Clearly Combo-guard is the likely value pick at the 23rd unless someone drops.

I don't know about clearly. 23 kind of looks like the sweet spot in the draft if you're targeting a small forward. Even if we trade Flynn I'd probably rather go SF at #23 (depending on what happens with the #16), then grab someone like Jerome Randle, Tommy Mason-Griffin in the 2nd round to back up Sessions and spread the floor.
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#102 » by El_Lobo_3 » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:38 am

PeeDee wrote:Speaking of twitter feeds, check out Evan Turner's: http://twitter.com/thekidet
There's a tweet on there that should make Wolves fans smile...


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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#103 » by cpfsf » Mon Apr 19, 2010 3:54 am

PeeDee wrote:Speaking of twitter feeds, check out Evan Turner's: http://twitter.com/thekidet
There's a tweet on there that should make Wolves fans smile...


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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#104 » by shangrila » Mon Apr 19, 2010 8:57 am

Anyone interested in Mikhail Torrance with one of the 2nd rounders? Measured out fairly well (6-4 without shoes, 6-7 wingspan) and is a great athlete with enough skills to play both guard spots.
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#105 » by the_bruce » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:22 pm

@23 I'd still have to go george. Plenty of tier 209 guards/combo guard available as FA's next year.

Bell, T. Allen, Foye, Morrow, D. George, M. Miller, r brewer(rfa?), probably lots more.

Plus many guards from recent drafts that are most likely available for cheap/nothing in trades.
Critt?, Augustin?, felton?, b rush, teague, law

None of these guys are spectacular, but certainly better than the guards in the 20's in this years draft.
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#106 » by Klomp » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:22 pm

shangrila wrote:Anyone interested in Mikhail Torrance with one of the 2nd rounders? Measured out fairly well (6-4 without shoes, 6-7 wingspan) and is a great athlete with enough skills to play both guard spots.


I was actually checking out his DX profile yesterday.....I'm interested
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#107 » by Klomp » Mon Apr 19, 2010 1:23 pm

shangrila wrote:Anyone interested in Mikhail Torrance with one of the 2nd rounders? Measured out fairly well (6-4 without shoes, 6-7 wingspan) and is a great athlete with enough skills to play both guard spots.


I was actually checking out his DX profile yesterday.....I'm interested
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#108 » by Krapinsky » Mon Apr 19, 2010 10:51 pm

DX updated top 100 rankings today.

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/

JG tweets that this time of year rankings begin to look like what draft should look like and mock begins to look like what draft will look like

Some places where we agree relevant to recent discussions:

Singler > Hayward
Warren > Bradley
Udoh > Monroe

I think he's got Sanders too low (*if he's 6'11" as reported); Also Andersen and George seem a bit low.
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#109 » by RookieWall » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:44 am

In our mock the T'Wolves get ET and two others, check it out.

http://therookiewall.com/2010/04/16/2010-nba-draft-mock-version-4/

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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#110 » by Klomp » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:32 am

RookieWall wrote:In our mock the T'Wolves get ET and two others, check it out.

http://therookiewall.com/2010/04/16/2010-nba-draft-mock-version-4/

What do you think of the two other picks?


We should have #23, not #24.

I like Turner, but not a fan of the other two selections.
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#111 » by Klomp » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:35 am

Krapinsky wrote:DX updated top 100 rankings today.

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/

JG tweets that this time of year rankings begin to look like what draft should look like and mock begins to look like what draft will look like

Some places where we agree relevant to recent discussions:

Singler > Hayward
Warren > Bradley
Udoh > Monroe

I think he's got Sanders too low (*if he's 6'11" as reported); Also Andersen and George seem a bit low.


Well, we don't have to worry about that one any more. Singler is a Dukie for one more year.
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#112 » by horaceworthy » Tue Apr 20, 2010 3:13 am

Sucks to be Scottie Reynolds. We'll always have 2009, Scottie!
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#113 » by shangrila » Tue Apr 20, 2010 6:56 am

Krapinsky wrote:DX updated top 100 rankings today.

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/

JG tweets that this time of year rankings begin to look like what draft should look like and mock begins to look like what draft will look like

Some places where we agree relevant to recent discussions:

Singler > Hayward
Warren > Bradley
Udoh > Monroe

I think he's got Sanders too low (*if he's 6'11" as reported); Also Andersen and George seem a bit low.

I think it's just the top 100 players. There's no way that Kyle Singler is a better prospect then a Paul George or Hassan Whiteside. Better player, yes, but longterm he doesn't have the same potential.
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Post#114 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Apr 20, 2010 1:29 pm

RookieWall wrote:In our mock the T'Wolves get ET and two others, check it out.

http://therookiewall.com/2010/04/16/2010-nba-draft-mock-version-4/

What do you think of the two other picks?


I like the general slotting of guys. I think Crawford might leapfrog Williams and Bradley though
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#115 » by Krapinsky » Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:37 pm

shangrila wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:DX updated top 100 rankings today.

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/

JG tweets that this time of year rankings begin to look like what draft should look like and mock begins to look like what draft will look like

Some places where we agree relevant to recent discussions:

Singler > Hayward
Warren > Bradley
Udoh > Monroe

I think he's got Sanders too low (*if he's 6'11" as reported); Also Andersen and George seem a bit low.

I think it's just the top 100 players. There's no way that Kyle Singler is a better prospect then a Paul George or Hassan Whiteside. Better player, yes, but longterm he doesn't have the same potential.


I suggest you email JG then. George and Whiteside have some of the highest bust potential of probably any players in the draft, so all things considered, Singler is the better pick according to JG. Some are more risk adverse than others.

"This time of year, our mock draft becomes what we think WILL happen, and our top-100 is more what we think SHOULD happen. Big difference."
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Post#116 » by Devilzsidewalk » Tue Apr 20, 2010 4:12 pm

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shangrila wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:DX updated top 100 rankings today.

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/

JG tweets that this time of year rankings begin to look like what draft should look like and mock begins to look like what draft will look like

Some places where we agree relevant to recent discussions:

Singler > Hayward
Warren > Bradley
Udoh > Monroe

I think he's got Sanders too low (*if he's 6'11" as reported); Also Andersen and George seem a bit low.

I think it's just the top 100 players. There's no way that Kyle Singler is a better prospect then a Paul George or Hassan Whiteside. Better player, yes, but longterm he doesn't have the same potential.


I suggest you email JG then. George and Whiteside have some of the highest bust potential of probably any players in the draft, so all things considered, Singler is the better pick according to JG. Some are more risk adverse than others.

"This time of year, our mock draft becomes what we think WILL happen, and our top-100 is more what we think SHOULD happen. Big difference."


I think you're in love w/ Moshe

I like that top 100 thing, more interesting to see their personal opinions than trying to predict what (Please Use More Appropriate Word) moves the NBA will make

who's Miroslav Raduljica, is he in this draft and is he somebody I should know about since the Wolves have late 1st from Utah...same w/ this Kevin Seraphin: "We’re talking about a chiseled athlete with good hands and explosive leaping ability, extremely quick off his feet and very agile as well" sounds like good stuff
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#117 » by shangrila » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:14 pm

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shangrila wrote:
Krapinsky wrote:DX updated top 100 rankings today.

http://www.draftexpress.com/rankings/Top-100-Prospects/

JG tweets that this time of year rankings begin to look like what draft should look like and mock begins to look like what draft will look like

Some places where we agree relevant to recent discussions:

Singler > Hayward
Warren > Bradley
Udoh > Monroe

I think he's got Sanders too low (*if he's 6'11" as reported); Also Andersen and George seem a bit low.

I think it's just the top 100 players. There's no way that Kyle Singler is a better prospect then a Paul George or Hassan Whiteside. Better player, yes, but longterm he doesn't have the same potential.


I suggest you email JG then. George and Whiteside have some of the highest bust potential of probably any players in the draft, so all things considered, Singler is the better pick according to JG. Some are more risk adverse than others.

"This time of year, our mock draft becomes what we think WILL happen, and our top-100 is more what we think SHOULD happen. Big difference."

I won't bother emailing the guy, but you don't see either of them as a better actual prospect? He's got a pretty low ceiling with his physical tools and while I do think Whiteside will probably fail George has a decent chance to at least be as good as Singler and a much better chance of being better. Add in that Singler is already a junior and now will be a senior when he gets drafted...I get it's his opinion and I don't disagree he's clearly a better player, but I can't see the better prospect from a draft perspective.

And for you Devilz, Raduljica is definitely in as he was born in 88 but unless Pekovic measures real poorly I don't see the point of getting him. His defence is non-existant. I'd pick Seraphin and he reminds me a little of Ibaka, but I think they'd have to trade back into the early 2nd round to get him. Doesn't seem like he'd come over for the little money 1st rounders get at the tail end of the draft. Maybe something like 27 and 31 from the Nets if they like someone at 23.
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#118 » by Krapinsky » Tue Apr 20, 2010 10:51 pm

^^^No, I'm as big a George fan as any (I said i disagreed w/ him about George being too low), and even despite his flaws, I'll take Whiteside over Singler (however, I like SIngler too, just not above the Utah pick). Teams at the bottom of the lotto heap (like us), especially have to be willing to take a risk here and there, so I think you and I are not as risk averse as a scout with his reputation on the line, or most NBA GMs. My thinking is that playoff teams looking for a player to step and contribute, and that avoid player's with character flaws, and/or who look for players who have been taught and conditioned at winning programs, very well might feel Singler is the safer prospect.
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#119 » by horaceworthy » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:02 am

I'm happy that Babbitt's in the draft for good. Virtually guarantees a solid SF prospect will be there at #23, although it wasn't like there was a real shortage before. We can either just about have our pick of the litter at #16 or grab one at #23 if another direction is chosen at #16.
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Re: Operation ET: Prospect Thread II 

Post#120 » by Esohny » Wed Apr 21, 2010 4:47 am

Indeed. Draft Express still has us taking Turner/Henry/George, which would be pretty nice.

Even if we get screwed and drop to 3 or 4, but ended up with Favors/Henry/George, I'd be pretty damn happy, since we'd still have ample assets for a trade for a Gay, Granger, etc.
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