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**The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two**

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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1021 » by winforlose » Tue Jan 23, 2024 6:13 am

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Loaf_of_bread wrote:Finch presser tonight displayed a high level of frustration directed at Kat imo. Was laying into it hardcore. Freaking Kat is uncoachable. Get this guy out of ant's way asap.


I have had a love hate relationship with both KAT and Ant since they were drafted, but you sir aren’t just missing the boat tonight, you’re in the wrong ocean. Ant shot 3-11, 1-4 from 3 and had 9 points. Karl shot 21-35, 10-15 from 3 and scored 62 points. Your theory is what if Ant shoots 10 of those Karl shots we score more points? Karl is the more efficient scorer but already defers to Ant on most nights. BTW, Finch did what you suggested and benched KAT for 3 minutes in the fourth with Ant in there, it didn’t help. Ant is far from a finished product and pretending he is SGA doesn’t make him SGA.

Additionally, do you see KD saying god I wish I had less shooters around me so I can shoot more. How about any other major star. Of course not. KD went to Kyrie and said let’s go to Brooklyn. In Brooklyn they told ownership they wanted Hardin brought in. Don’t like that example, do you see Embiid or Maxey calling for the other to be traded? How about SGA saying we need less JW so I can shoot more? Lebron illegally recruited AD and wanted Westbrook believing they could carry the scoring load. That failed so he said bring me Dlo. That failed so he said bring me Murray or Lavine. The moral of the Lebron story, stars want teammates to help carry the scoring load and make things easier. One more example, Tatum and Brown got ownership to bring in KP and Jrue Holiday to make things easier for them.

Karl is not the problem, the offense is the problem. Nothing is easy because nothing is schemed. We have one PG who didn’t play and another who is a legit 3rd string and not really NBA caliber (but he has good nights where we can pretend he is.) This is not a winning formula and Finch is rapidly becoming the problem with his inability to find a solution.


You especially should love Ant's game tonight. 11 Assists and 1 Turnover.


Honest question as I don’t know the answer, how many of those were to Karl? I love that Ant was looking to pass, but I don’t love his shot selection, or result. The true All NBA guards are not usually one or the other. Mike is someone for whom points is a perk, but the expectation is the offense works better and we have a lot of easier shots and therefore more shots with assists. Ant’s primary role is scoring while developing play making. If Ant has an efficient 9 points on 6 shots and 11/1 AST/TO I would encourage him to shoot more, but be pleased. 9 points on 11 shots is very inefficient, as is no assists in the fourth quarter to go along with 1-4 for 4 points. With Mike out NAW stepped up, and Ant had a bad game. There is no shame in having a bad game, but let’s not pretend the solution to the loss was giving Ant shots that went to Karl. What was needed was a better offensive scheme and better ball movement to create better shots.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1022 » by Note30 » Tue Jan 23, 2024 5:15 pm

Loaf_of_bread wrote:Finch presser tonight displayed a high level of frustration directed at Kat imo. Was laying into it hardcore. Freaking Kat is uncoachable. Get this guy out of ant's way asap.


**** Finch and **** you. Finch putting his players down in public is some pussey ass ****. He could man up and say he **** up on the coaching which he did, he **** lets teams go on a run. Instead he criticized the scoring leader and said it was his fault when the other offensive options in Ant and Mcd as well as the whole bench shot like ****.

Suck a dick.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1023 » by TimberKat » Tue Jan 23, 2024 9:08 pm

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Loaf_of_bread wrote:Finch presser tonight displayed a high level of frustration directed at Kat imo. Was laying into it hardcore. Freaking Kat is uncoachable. Get this guy out of ant's way asap.


**** Finch and **** you. Finch putting his players down in public is some pussey ass ****. He could man up and say he **** up on the coaching which he did, he **** lets teams go on a run. Instead he criticized the scoring leader and said it was his fault when the other offensive options in Ant and Mcd as well as the whole bench shot like ****.

Suck a dick.

I am not exactly a Finch fan but I don't think he is blaming Towns specifically. I think the team basically loss focus in the 4 qtr. Instead of focusing on winning and running plays. They were just looking to get Towns to score over 70pts. Everyone else is standing around. Towns shot some force shots too. It's not just Towns but the whole team. This is 4 losses in a row now where we fail to close out games that could have won. Whoever was saying don't worry, you should start to worry. Especially with Suns making a run now. Wolves could easily fall to the 5 - 8 place group.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1024 » by Note30 » Tue Jan 23, 2024 11:05 pm

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Loaf_of_bread wrote:Finch presser tonight displayed a high level of frustration directed at Kat imo. Was laying into it hardcore. Freaking Kat is uncoachable. Get this guy out of ant's way asap.


**** Finch and **** you. Finch putting his players down in public is some pussey ass ****. He could man up and say he **** up on the coaching which he did, he **** lets teams go on a run. Instead he criticized the scoring leader and said it was his fault when the other offensive options in Ant and Mcd as well as the whole bench shot like ****.

Suck a dick.

I am not exactly a Finch fan but I don't think he is blaming Towns specifically. I think the team basically loss focus in the 4 qtr. Instead of focusing on winning and running plays. They were just looking to get Towns to score over 70pts. Everyone else is standing around. Towns shot some force shots too. It's not just Towns but the whole team. This is 4 losses in a row now where we fail to close out games that could have won. Whoever was saying don't worry, you should start to worry. Especially with Suns making a run now. Wolves could easily fall to the 5 - 8 place group.


That definitely not how it came off.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1025 » by life_saver » Thu Jan 25, 2024 2:59 pm

Lets see whether this is going to be new normal...looks like KAT heard fans asking to shoot more 3's

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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1026 » by Klomp » Thu Jan 25, 2024 9:23 pm

life_saver wrote:Lets see whether this is going to be new normal...looks like KAT heard fans asking to shoot more 3's

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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1027 » by Loaf_of_bread » Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:12 am

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Loaf_of_bread wrote:Finch presser tonight displayed a high level of frustration directed at Kat imo. Was laying into it hardcore. Freaking Kat is uncoachable. Get this guy out of ant's way asap.


**** Finch and **** you. Finch putting his players down in public is some pussey ass ****. He could man up and say he **** up on the coaching which he did, he **** lets teams go on a run. Instead he criticized the scoring leader and said it was his fault when the other offensive options in Ant and Mcd as well as the whole bench shot like ****.

Suck a dick.


So are you proposing firing finch?
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1028 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:08 am

KAT was great tonight ( except TO part) and he is the main reason why we escape with lucky win. Ant have a good second quarter after he got benched by Finch for 7 min, then came back to his usual weak point ( TO, poor shoot selection, broke ball movement) at3 rd and 4th. I love ANT as much a KAT ( and less than Mike) but i'm not blind. When Finch speak about immaturity, the main people he talk about are ANT and JMD.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1029 » by winforlose » Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:12 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:KAT was great tonight ( except TO part) and he is the main reason why we escape with lucky win. Ant have a good second quarter after he got benched by Finch for 7 min, then came back to his usual weak point ( TO, poor shoot selection, broke ball movement) at3 rd and 4th. I love ANT as much a KAT ( and less than Mike) but i'm not blind. When Finch speak about immaturity, the main people he talk about are ANT and JMD.


Next game if I am Finch I bench Ant at 5:50 mark of the 4th quarter. Tell him it is because of last game. Lineup is Mike, NAW, Jaden, Karl, Rudy. I bet you we win those minutes.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1030 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:19 am

winforlose wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:KAT was great tonight ( except TO part) and he is the main reason why we escape with lucky win. Ant have a good second quarter after he got benched by Finch for 7 min, then came back to his usual weak point ( TO, poor shoot selection, broke ball movement) at3 rd and 4th. I love ANT as much a KAT ( and less than Mike) but i'm not blind. When Finch speak about immaturity, the main people he talk about are ANT and JMD.


Next game if I am Finch I bench Ant at 5:50 mark of the 4th quarter. Tell him it is because of last game. Lineup is Mike, NAW, Jaden, Karl, Rudy. I bet you we win those minutes.


I agree with that. Sometimes ANT need to regroup as he lost his concentration. If the second he got sit quite long and i see Mike speak to him alot. He came back and was brillant for 12 min until he back to play hero ball. I think tonight Finch send a signal and won't be surprised if it happen in the fourth next time. ANT is brillant and talented no doubt but he is young and need sometimes to get cool down. That's Finch ( and to a lesser degree Mike job)
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1031 » by winforlose » Fri Jan 26, 2024 7:21 am

FrenchMinnyFan wrote:
winforlose wrote:
FrenchMinnyFan wrote:KAT was great tonight ( except TO part) and he is the main reason why we escape with lucky win. Ant have a good second quarter after he got benched by Finch for 7 min, then came back to his usual weak point ( TO, poor shoot selection, broke ball movement) at3 rd and 4th. I love ANT as much a KAT ( and less than Mike) but i'm not blind. When Finch speak about immaturity, the main people he talk about are ANT and JMD.


Next game if I am Finch I bench Ant at 5:50 mark of the 4th quarter. Tell him it is because of last game. Lineup is Mike, NAW, Jaden, Karl, Rudy. I bet you we win those minutes.


I agree with that. Sometimes ANT need to regroup as he lost his concentration. If the second he got sit quite long and i see Mike speak to him alot. He came back and was brillant for 12 min until he back to play hero ball. I think tonight Finch send a signal and won't be surprised if it happen in the fourth next time. ANT is brillant and talented no doubt but he is young and need sometimes to get cool down. That's Finch ( and to a lesser degree Mike job)


Bingo!!! Finch needs to spend as much time as Ant needs explaining what Finch needs from him. They need to review every crunch time film together one on one and let Finch break it down for Ant, (Mike should do this with Ant too.) Finch then needs to give Ant positive reinforcement when he follows the game-plan, and hold him accountable when he does not. Having Ant ride the bench end of game the game after he reverts to hero ball is a tough love approach that I think will make Ant and the team better.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1032 » by Note30 » Fri Jan 26, 2024 6:25 pm

Loaf_of_bread wrote:
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Loaf_of_bread wrote:Finch presser tonight displayed a high level of frustration directed at Kat imo. Was laying into it hardcore. Freaking Kat is uncoachable. Get this guy out of ant's way asap.


**** Finch and **** you. Finch putting his players down in public is some pussey ass ****. He could man up and say he **** up on the coaching which he did, he **** lets teams go on a run. Instead he criticized the scoring leader and said it was his fault when the other offensive options in Ant and Mcd as well as the whole bench shot like ****.

Suck a dick.


So are you proposing firing finch?


I'm proposing he be less of an **** to his players and take accountability himself.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1033 » by KGdaBom » Fri Jan 26, 2024 10:15 pm

Note30 wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:Finch presser tonight displayed a high level of frustration directed at Kat imo. Was laying into it hardcore. Freaking Kat is uncoachable. Get this guy out of ant's way asap.


**** Finch and **** you. Finch putting his players down in public is some pussey ass ****. He could man up and say he **** up on the coaching which he did, he **** lets teams go on a run. Instead he criticized the scoring leader and said it was his fault when the other offensive options in Ant and Mcd as well as the whole bench shot like ****.

Suck a dick.

I'm OK with Finch, but him throwing the team under the bus was not cool IMO.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1034 » by TimberKat » Fri Jan 26, 2024 11:36 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Note30 wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:Finch presser tonight displayed a high level of frustration directed at Kat imo. Was laying into it hardcore. Freaking Kat is uncoachable. Get this guy out of ant's way asap.


**** Finch and **** you. Finch putting his players down in public is some pussey ass ****. He could man up and say he **** up on the coaching which he did, he **** lets teams go on a run. Instead he criticized the scoring leader and said it was his fault when the other offensive options in Ant and Mcd as well as the whole bench shot like ****.

Suck a dick.

I'm OK with Finch, but him throwing the team under the bus was not cool IMO.

I see Finch and the team talk one way but how they play seems very different. I see we are getting worse in our weakness and not getting better. Rather its structre we need, we have low BK IQ players, or Finch loss the locker room, if we don't advance to second round, he will be gone. So, we better stay in the top 3. Otherwise, it will be round one vs Clippers or Suns, which I don't see us win given the current state of the team.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1035 » by Loaf_of_bread » Sat Jan 27, 2024 2:37 am

Kat needs to put his head down, play basketball, stop complaining mid-game, and keep his thoughts in interviews short. He carries himself extremely poorly when interviewed. Popovich would have probably turned him into something. Don't think anyone has told him that no one cares what he thinks.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1036 » by Slim Tubby » Sat Jan 27, 2024 3:52 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:Kat needs to put his head down, play basketball, stop complaining mid-game, and keep his thoughts in interviews short. He carries himself extremely poorly when interviewed. Popovich would have probably turned him into something. Don't think anyone has told him that no one cares what he thinks.
I care. He's doing a better job controlling his emotions on the court. He's playing the best defense of his career. He shares the ball. He hustles. He's been our most consistent player this season. I'd rather he have the ball in crunch time than Ant.

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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1037 » by winforlose » Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:00 am

Loaf_of_bread wrote:Kat needs to put his head down, play basketball, stop complaining mid-game, and keep his thoughts in interviews short. He carries himself extremely poorly when interviewed. Popovich would have probably turned him into something. Don't think anyone has told him that no one cares what he thinks.


This is the same guy who said he would welcome Rudy and did. Who changed position without a single complaint, actively looked for Rudy in both season, and had the most assists to Rudy of anyone on the team (including Mike.) This is a guy who used to average double doubles, but now accepts 8.? rebounds per game without complaint. Likewise this is a guy who welcomed Ant as a rookie and gladly allows Ant more shots than himself every night despite being the more efficient shooter. His teammates love him, his coaches praise him for being unselfish and the glue that holds the team together. He has overcome tremendous adversity from injury and discord (General Soreness,) to losing 8 family members (including his mother,) to Covid, to thinking he was going to die from a severe case of Covid. Through it all he still smiles, still works his *** off and is still loyal to Minnesota. So no, you can complain about his game, but you cannot complain about the man, or his style of giving interviews. No sir, that doesn’t fly.
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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1038 » by m2002brian » Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:24 am

winforlose wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:Kat needs to put his head down, play basketball, stop complaining mid-game, and keep his thoughts in interviews short. He carries himself extremely poorly when interviewed. Popovich would have probably turned him into something. Don't think anyone has told him that no one cares what he thinks.


This is the same guy who said he would welcome Rudy and did. Who changed position without a single complaint, actively looked for Rudy in both season, and had the most assists to Rudy of anyone on the team (including Mike.) This is a guy who used to average double doubles, but now accepts 8.? rebounds per game without complaint. Likewise this is a guy who welcomed Ant as a rookie and gladly allows Ant more shots than himself every night despite being the more efficient shooter. His teammates love him, his coaches praise him for being unselfish and the glue that holds the team together. He has overcome tremendous adversity from injury and discord (General Soreness,) to losing 8 family members (including his mother,) to Covid, to thinking he was going to die from a severe case of Covid. Through it all he still smiles, still works his *** off and is still loyal to Minnesota. So no, you can complain about his game, but you cannot complain about the man, or his style of giving interviews. No sir, that doesn’t fly.



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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1039 » by winforlose » Sat Jan 27, 2024 4:27 am

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winforlose wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:Kat needs to put his head down, play basketball, stop complaining mid-game, and keep his thoughts in interviews short. He carries himself extremely poorly when interviewed. Popovich would have probably turned him into something. Don't think anyone has told him that no one cares what he thinks.


This is the same guy who said he would welcome Rudy and did. Who changed position without a single complaint, actively looked for Rudy in both season, and had the most assists to Rudy of anyone on the team (including Mike.) This is a guy who used to average double doubles, but now accepts 8.? rebounds per game without complaint. Likewise this is a guy who welcomed Ant as a rookie and gladly allows Ant more shots than himself every night despite being the more efficient shooter. His teammates love him, his coaches praise him for being unselfish and the glue that holds the team together. He has overcome tremendous adversity from injury and discord (General Soreness,) to losing 8 family members (including his mother,) to Covid, to thinking he was going to die from a severe case of Covid. Through it all he still smiles, still works his *** off and is still loyal to Minnesota. So no, you can complain about his game, but you cannot complain about the man, or his style of giving interviews. No sir, that doesn’t fly.



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Re: **The Official Karl-Anthony Towns Thread: Part Two** 

Post#1040 » by Loaf_of_bread » Sun Jan 28, 2024 4:45 am

winforlose wrote:
Loaf_of_bread wrote:Kat needs to put his head down, play basketball, stop complaining mid-game, and keep his thoughts in interviews short. He carries himself extremely poorly when interviewed. Popovich would have probably turned him into something. Don't think anyone has told him that no one cares what he thinks.


This is the same guy who said he would welcome Rudy and did. Who changed position without a single complaint, actively looked for Rudy in both season, and had the most assists to Rudy of anyone on the team (including Mike.) This is a guy who used to average double doubles, but now accepts 8.? rebounds per game without complaint. Likewise this is a guy who welcomed Ant as a rookie and gladly allows Ant more shots than himself every night despite being the more efficient shooter. His teammates love him, his coaches praise him for being unselfish and the glue that holds the team together. He has overcome tremendous adversity from injury and discord (General Soreness,) to losing 8 family members (including his mother,) to Covid, to thinking he was going to die from a severe case of Covid. Through it all he still smiles, still works his *** off and is still loyal to Minnesota. So no, you can complain about his game, but you cannot complain about the man, or his style of giving interviews. No sir, that doesn’t fly.

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