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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1221 » by Jedzz » Wed Dec 2, 2020 11:21 am

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But he "can't create for himself"...

He's going to create early space for others, and save a bunch of busted up possessions. Between him and Rubio I hope not to see any more wasted head scratcher possessions.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1222 » by Jedzz » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:04 pm

Did read that Justin Patton had a broken pinky finger back in September and that was the reason he didn't have some kind of competition with Thon Maker for a spot as expected during a Pistons' local bubble event this September. Sheesh. Then traded to Clippers. Then the Clippers cut Patton free right after. As if they don't need a tall man with a perimeter shot and passing and defensive skills. Patton's path so far seems like he now would be an easy get and a skills improvement for a big depth guy here. (if you can keep him from breaking bones).
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1223 » by Jedzz » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:20 pm

Better roster changes since start of last season to the start this season? Pistons or Wolves?

Pistons now:
Rose/Killian Hayes/Wright
Delon Wright/Ellington/Mykhailiuk/McGruder
Jerami Grant/Saddiq Bey
Blake Griffin/Grant/Doumbouya
Plumlee/Stewart/Okafor
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1224 » by Klomp » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:22 pm

Jedzz wrote:Better roster changes since start of last season to the start this season? Pistons or Wolves?

Pistons now:
Rose/Killian Hayes/Wright
Delon Wright/Ellington/Mykhailiuk/McGruder
Jerami Grant/Saddiq Bey
Blake Griffin/Grant/Doumbouya
Plumlee/Stewart/Okafor

What's the goal? If it's to become a middling playoff team, I don't mind Detroit's moves. But for longterm upside and surrounding your stars with complementary talent? I'll take our roster any day.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1225 » by Jedzz » Wed Dec 2, 2020 12:35 pm

Klomp wrote:
Jedzz wrote:Better roster changes since start of last season to the start this season? Pistons or Wolves?

Pistons now:
Rose/Killian Hayes/Wright
Delon Wright/Ellington/Mykhailiuk/McGruder
Jerami Grant/Saddiq Bey
Blake Griffin/Grant/Doumbouya
Plumlee/Stewart/Okafor

What's the goal? If it's to become a middling playoff team, I don't mind Detroit's moves. But for longterm upside and surrounding your stars with complementary talent? I'll take our roster any day.


Im not sure on the rosters either way, just wondering. If you are asking me what the goal is, it should be to win more games every season so your fans stop hating you, for both teams. Grabbing the Denver players for skilled size while also loading up on guards more doesn't seem like a bad offseason. The S. Bey pick at 19 I'm jello over.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1226 » by minimus » Wed Dec 2, 2020 4:52 pm

Jedzz wrote:Better roster changes since start of last season to the start this season? Pistons or Wolves?

Pistons now:
Rose/Killian Hayes/Wright
Delon Wright/Ellington/Mykhailiuk/McGruder
Jerami Grant/Saddiq Bey
Blake Griffin/Grant/Doumbouya
Plumlee/Stewart/Okafor


Pistons roster is like a chinese Lego. Looks like a real one, until you try to build something.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1227 » by Macwolf527 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 5:04 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:I think Rubio is going to feel supremely more confident around here now.

As I get older I keep running into instances later now where I do something I tried doing years ago or come back to a place I was at years ago and this later second time around seems to come so much more naturally. Even if it didn't go so well the first time, it just seems like something stuck from the first time and coming back to it after a period of time just seems so much better. I'm not sure if I'm making sense with this, but I think Ricky's going to come back at a level we've never seen and maybe he's never seen yet.

I fully get what you're saying.


I do as well. The issue here for Rubio was always the lack of a winning culture and cohesiveness. Changing coaches, changing systems, changing star players, just a revolving door of ineptitude. Now, he has the opportunity to do what he does best, what he learned playing for the Spain national team. Be that glue guy that does it all for the team, in whatever capacity needed. I’m expecting him to be impactful in a way that will be surprising to us all.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1228 » by KGdaBom » Wed Dec 2, 2020 5:06 pm

Macwolf527 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Jedzz wrote:I think Rubio is going to feel supremely more confident around here now.

As I get older I keep running into instances later now where I do something I tried doing years ago or come back to a place I was at years ago and this later second time around seems to come so much more naturally. Even if it didn't go so well the first time, it just seems like something stuck from the first time and coming back to it after a period of time just seems so much better. I'm not sure if I'm making sense with this, but I think Ricky's going to come back at a level we've never seen and maybe he's never seen yet.

I fully get what you're saying.


I do as well. The issue here for Rubio was always the lack of a winning culture and cohesiveness. Changing coaches, changing systems, changing star players, just a revolving door of ineptitude. Now, he has the opportunity to do what he does best, what he learned playing for the Spain national team. Be that glue guy that does it all for the team, in whatever capacity needed. I’m expecting him to be impactful in a way that will be surprising to us all.

It won't be surprising to me.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1229 » by wolves_89 » Wed Dec 2, 2020 10:51 pm

With Beasley likely facing a suspension, I'm now leaning towards Rubio being in the starting lineup.

My guess at the depth chart and rotation minutes with Beasley suspended:

Rubio (30)/Russell (18)
Russell (16)/Okogie(26)/Edwards(6)
Culver(26)/Edwards(16)/Layman(6)
Hernangomez(20)/Layman(16)/RHJ(12)
Towns (34)/Davis (14)


When Beasley is back:

Rubio (30)/Russell (18)
Russell (16)/Beasley (28)/Okogie(4)
Culver(20)/Edwards(16)/Okogie(12)
Hernangomez(20)/Layman(16)/RHJ(12)
Towns (34)/Davis (14)
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1230 » by KGdaBom » Wed Dec 2, 2020 11:57 pm

wolves_89 wrote:With Beasley likely facing a suspension, I'm now leaning towards Rubio being in the starting lineup.

My guess at the depth chart and rotation minutes with Beasley suspended:

Rubio (30)/Russell (18)
Russell (16)/Okogie(26)/Edwards(6)
Culver(26)/Edwards(16)/Layman(6)
Hernangomez(20)/Layman(16)/RHJ(12)
Towns (34)/Davis (14)


When Beasley is back:

Rubio (30)/Russell (18)
Russell (16)/Beasley (28)/Okogie(4)
Culver(20)/Edwards(16)/Okogie(12)
Hernangomez(20)/Layman(16)/RHJ(12)
Towns (34)/Davis (14)

No Vanderbilt? I bet he plays.
No Naz? I bet he plays. Hopefully J Mc plays also.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1231 » by Norseman79 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 12:20 am

The number 1 pick in the draft better be playing 30+ minutes a night or there is going to be some major heat or bust talk. Number 1's don't sit, and they don't play 20 a game.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1232 » by old school 34 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 1:57 am

KGdaBom wrote:
wolves_89 wrote:With Beasley likely facing a suspension, I'm now leaning towards Rubio being in the starting lineup.

My guess at the depth chart and rotation minutes with Beasley suspended:

Rubio (30)/Russell (18)
Russell (16)/Okogie(26)/Edwards(6)
Culver(26)/Edwards(16)/Layman(6)
Hernangomez(20)/Layman(16)/RHJ(12)
Towns (34)/Davis (14)


When Beasley is back:

Rubio (30)/Russell (18)
Russell (16)/Beasley (28)/Okogie(4)
Culver(20)/Edwards(16)/Okogie(12)
Hernangomez(20)/Layman(16)/RHJ(12)
Towns (34)/Davis (14)

No Vanderbilt? I bet he plays.
No Naz? I bet he plays. Hopefully J Mc plays also.
They won't go past 10 most nights...will the 10 change...absolutely, but pretty rare unless injury or fouls dictate something that coaches go past 10 on a given night?

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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1233 » by KGdaBom » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:18 am

Norseman79 wrote:The number 1 pick in the draft better be playing 30+ minutes a night or there is going to be some major heat or bust talk. Number 1's don't sit, and they don't play 20 a game.

He's just barely 19 though. I expect him to come through, but wow.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1234 » by Dewey » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:52 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:The number 1 pick in the draft better be playing 30+ minutes a night or there is going to be some major heat or bust talk. Number 1's don't sit, and they don't play 20 a game.

He's just barely 19 though. I expect him to come through, but wow.

Can see it going both ways, but I think he’ll be in that 25 range average on the season. Physically very capable, but mentally, ya just gotta wait and see. We have enough depth to where I hope we make him earn whatever he gets
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1235 » by Norseman79 » Thu Dec 3, 2020 2:54 am

KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:The number 1 pick in the draft better be playing 30+ minutes a night or there is going to be some major heat or bust talk. Number 1's don't sit, and they don't play 20 a game.

He's just barely 19 though. I expect him to come through, but wow.


It comes with the territory. Number 1 overall carries a lot of weight.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1236 » by KGdaBom » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:02 am

Norseman79 wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:
Norseman79 wrote:The number 1 pick in the draft better be playing 30+ minutes a night or there is going to be some major heat or bust talk. Number 1's don't sit, and they don't play 20 a game.

He's just barely 19 though. I expect him to come through, but wow.


It comes with the territory. Number 1 overall carries a lot of weight.

He should have been graduating from HS this year. He pulled strings to get into College early.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1237 » by Merc_Porto » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:08 am

Unless there's physical problems and limited minutes no number one overrall pick plays under 27/28 minutes.

Not even Zion played 25 minutes. Almost 28.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1238 » by Neeva » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:09 am

Jedzz wrote:Better roster changes since start of last season to the start this season? Pistons or Wolves?

Pistons now:
Rose/Killian Hayes/Wright
Delon Wright/Ellington/Mykhailiuk/McGruder
Jerami Grant/Saddiq Bey
Blake Griffin/Grant/Doumbouya
Plumlee/Stewart/Okafor


They have trash at sg and center positions while
Wolves have Kat and a treasue trove at SG and also pretty deep at PG (if they get jmac)
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1239 » by Jedzz » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:26 am

Neeva wrote:
Jedzz wrote:Better roster changes since start of last season to the start this season? Pistons or Wolves?

Pistons now:
Rose/Killian Hayes/Wright
Delon Wright/Ellington/Mykhailiuk/McGruder
Jerami Grant/Saddiq Bey
Blake Griffin/Grant/Doumbouya
Plumlee/Stewart/Okafor


They have trash at sg and center positions while
Wolves have Kat and a treasue trove at SG and also pretty deep at PG (if they get jmac)


That's semi fair to say. Though Wright isb't horrible as a SG, better than as a PG. Ellington can shoot if he can still walk in his old age. and they are very solid at SF/PG/C right now. I'll be interested to see these teams play each other. Especially if Rose plays that day.
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Re: Constructing the Timberwolves rotation 

Post#1240 » by Jedzz » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:28 am

mercgold3 wrote:Unless there's physical problems and limited minutes no number one overrall pick plays under 27/28 minutes.

Not even Zion played 25 minutes. Almost 28.


Please stop being you so much, k? Pretty please?

Would you say the same about a #2 or #3 overall pick?

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