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Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1621 » by moss_is_1 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 3:55 pm

shrink wrote:So I don’t know if the fanbase or lux-paying ownership would accept it, but suppose Connelly wanted to get a little worse this season to be better longterm (part of the goal of the KAT trade).

Randle for Ball + Jalen Smith … saves $3.1 this year, $12 next year

NAW to SAC for TPE + 2 CHA 2nds .. saves $4.3 this year, ??? next year (can’t bring him back)


Without calculating it, saving $7.4 mil might save owner $35 mil, which might lessen the sting of still paying $65 mil in lux taxes for a team that doesn’t excel in the playoffs.

I don’t know how I feel about that plan.


I'm not sure if Chicago will move Ball now after they extended him last night.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1622 » by Slim Tubby » Thu Feb 6, 2025 4:08 pm

Klomp wrote:I do wonder what the plan is for Coby White in Chicago.

Lonzo Ball (just extended)
Ayo Dosunmo
Josh Giddey
Kevin Huerter (just acquired)
Tre Jones (just acquired)

I wouldn't hate a White/Williams package for Randle, even though it's future money....
I love this idea even though Williams' contract is fugly. White has flaws but he would instantly be our best PG by a large margin.

I agree with Minimus that every time I have watched Patrick, he's been a disaster but I'd probably make this trade.

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1623 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:17 pm

And the deadline passes with a large wet fart.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1624 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:17 pm

Well there's that......

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1625 » by Baseline81 » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:21 pm

Klomp wrote:Well there's that......

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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1626 » by Klomp » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:22 pm

Klomp wrote:Well there's that......

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I wouldn't be surprised to see them attempt again in the offseason. It would require some creativity, but I think it is possible.

I do think the biggest factor in our overall inactivity was the 1+1 nature of Randle's contract. It wasn't so much the money itself or Randle as a player, I think it was the extra year. Look around the league, teams were only adding players with extra years if there were picks attached. Tim was rightfully protective of his draft capital, because it is already limited and it might pack a greater punch in June as we approach the draft.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1627 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:22 pm

Klomp wrote:Well there's that......

Read on Twitter


I think there was a better chance of one of us suiting up for the Wolves.

I just don't see a truly feasible path that A) let's us make it work under the CBA, B) leaves us with enough assets to make it happen and C) lets us fill out a roster around Ant, KD and Rudy.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1628 » by TwolvesFanRome » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:25 pm

According to you what kind of offer TC made? I mean, realistic..
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1629 » by FrenchMinnyFan » Thu Feb 6, 2025 11:51 pm

The only thing what matter is the result at the deadline. What may have been is a way to people to exist or make money on social media...we have a roster, now time to focus on getting into the PO and it be will tough. Go Wolves!
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1630 » by winforlose » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:19 am

Wolves have at least probably 3-4 weeks without Randle or DDV. The next step is filling roster spot 15 with a backup C. Until then we should send Garza and Finch to Iowa and use Miller and Micah to achieve best results ;).
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1631 » by TimberKat » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:23 am

So our best bet is to get JMcL off waivers.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1632 » by winforlose » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:33 am

TimberKat wrote:So our best bet is to get JMcL off waivers.


Much as a PG would help, we need a C more. If Rudy goes down Naz or Randle is our starting 5 and the other is the backup. Theis, Bamba, or one of the other waived bigs.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1633 » by WolfAddict » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:41 am

A bit disappointed that there was absolutely nothing from us, granted this is probably more that we kept Randle than anything else.

But at the same time I admit that there may not have been much of value to us that would be incentive to move Randle on.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1634 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:46 am

winforlose wrote:
TimberKat wrote:So our best bet is to get JMcL off waivers.


Much as a PG would help, we need a C more. If Rudy goes down Naz or Randle is our starting 5 and the other is the backup. Theis, Bamba, or one of the other waived bigs.


Please not Mo Bamba.

Dude has no motor, no BBIQ and possibly the worst conditioning in the NBA.

He has physical tools and, by all accounts, is a very intelligent person. But it sure doesn't look like he enjoys basketball. I think he's a guy who plays because he was expected to and has just enough ability to parlay that into 39 MILLION DOLLARS "playing" for 5 teams over 6 years.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1635 » by winforlose » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:50 am

BlacJacMac wrote:
winforlose wrote:
TimberKat wrote:So our best bet is to get JMcL off waivers.


Much as a PG would help, we need a C more. If Rudy goes down Naz or Randle is our starting 5 and the other is the backup. Theis, Bamba, or one of the other waived bigs.


Please not Mo Bamba.

Dude has no motor, no BBIQ and possibly the worst conditioning in the NBA.

He has physical tools and, by all accounts, is a very intelligent person. But it sure doesn't look like he enjoys basketball. I think he's a guy who plays because he was expected to and has just enough ability to parlay that into 39 MILLION DOLLARS "playing" for 5 teams over 6 years.


Well maybe the FO will agree. My #1 is Theis. I think he would be a great fit in that he can play with Naz and in a pinch with Rudy.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1636 » by TimberKat » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:52 am

winforlose wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Much as a PG would help, we need a C more. If Rudy goes down Naz or Randle is our starting 5 and the other is the backup. Theis, Bamba, or one of the other waived bigs.


Please not Mo Bamba.

Dude has no motor, no BBIQ and possibly the worst conditioning in the NBA.

He has physical tools and, by all accounts, is a very intelligent person. But it sure doesn't look like he enjoys basketball. I think he's a guy who plays because he was expected to and has just enough ability to parlay that into 39 MILLION DOLLARS "playing" for 5 teams over 6 years.


Well maybe the FO will agree. My #1 is Theis. I think he would be a great fit in that he can play with Naz and in a pinch with Rudy.

Agree Theis is a better choice. I am also wondering can we get Schröder if he is released?
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1637 » by BlacJacMac » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:55 am

TimberKat wrote:
winforlose wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Please not Mo Bamba.

Dude has no motor, no BBIQ and possibly the worst conditioning in the NBA.

He has physical tools and, by all accounts, is a very intelligent person. But it sure doesn't look like he enjoys basketball. I think he's a guy who plays because he was expected to and has just enough ability to parlay that into 39 MILLION DOLLARS "playing" for 5 teams over 6 years.


Well maybe the FO will agree. My #1 is Theis. I think he would be a great fit in that he can play with Naz and in a pinch with Rudy.

Agree Theis is a better choice. I am also wondering can we get Schröder if he is released?


No. Because he made more than the MLE this season.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1638 » by winforlose » Fri Feb 7, 2025 12:55 am

TimberKat wrote:
winforlose wrote:
BlacJacMac wrote:
Please not Mo Bamba.

Dude has no motor, no BBIQ and possibly the worst conditioning in the NBA.

He has physical tools and, by all accounts, is a very intelligent person. But it sure doesn't look like he enjoys basketball. I think he's a guy who plays because he was expected to and has just enough ability to parlay that into 39 MILLION DOLLARS "playing" for 5 teams over 6 years.


Well maybe the FO will agree. My #1 is Theis. I think he would be a great fit in that he can play with Naz and in a pinch with Rudy.

Agree Theis is a better choice. I am also wondering can we get Schröder if he is released?


Yes and No. I believe we could sign him, but only be waiving someone else (15 spots,) and we badly need spot 15 to go to a C. Which means we must decide between paying even more dead cap and dumping someone who we probably could have traded for something, or running without DS.
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1639 » by TimberKat » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:06 am

winforlose wrote:
TimberKat wrote:
winforlose wrote:
Well maybe the FO will agree. My #1 is Theis. I think he would be a great fit in that he can play with Naz and in a pinch with Rudy.

Agree Theis is a better choice. I am also wondering can we get Schröder if he is released?


Yes and No. I believe we could sign him, but only be waiving someone else (15 spots,) and we badly need spot 15 to go to a C. Which means we must decide between paying even more dead cap and dumping someone who we probably could have traded for something, or running without DS.

So we can't release Minott to free up another spot or that spot is extremely expensive? To get both Theis and Schroder
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Re: Trade Talk (Part 16): Early Season Anxiety Edition 

Post#1640 » by winforlose » Fri Feb 7, 2025 1:08 am

TimberKat wrote:
winforlose wrote:
TimberKat wrote:Agree Theis is a better choice. I am also wondering can we get Schröder if he is released?


Yes and No. I believe we could sign him, but only be waiving someone else (15 spots,) and we badly need spot 15 to go to a C. Which means we must decide between paying even more dead cap and dumping someone who we probably could have traded for something, or running without DS.

So we can't release Minott to free up another spot or that spot is extremely expensive?


Could we yes, but that means paying Minott his entire guaranteed fee (this years money,) and then since he is non guaranteed next year that money disappears. But then we need to pay DS at the tax rate, I don’t see ownership paying to make that happen when we could have traded Josh.

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