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Around the NBA (Part Two)

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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1701 » by KGdaBom » Sun May 18, 2025 4:34 pm

life_saver wrote:Nuggets still have Jokic, Murray...in a single game situation, anything happen. Best case scenario for Wolves would Nuggets pulling off upset today

Without question. Not saying we can't beat the Thunder, but anybody thinking reasonably knows that the Thunder are the harder matchup.
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Post#1702 » by cmoss84 » Sun May 18, 2025 7:13 pm

Gordon playing. Maybe ARoid helped him?
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Post#1703 » by BlacJacMac » Sun May 18, 2025 7:15 pm

cmoss84 wrote:Gordon playing. Maybe ARoid helped him?


Didn't OG try that last year and made it like 3 minutes?
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Post#1704 » by minimus » Sun May 18, 2025 7:31 pm

Am I reading it right, that DAL traded Luka despite going into WCF last year. Does it mean that additional profit from playoffs game is not nearly enough to compensate luxury tax? I remember GSW were able to cover some costs of expensive roster by going deep in playoffs, but that was before new CBA
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Post#1705 » by BlacJacMac » Sun May 18, 2025 7:40 pm

minimus wrote:Am I reading it right, that DAL traded Luka despite going into WCF last year. Does it mean that additional profit from playoffs game is not nearly enough to compensate luxury tax? I remember GSW were able to cover some costs of expensive roster by going deep in playoffs, but that was before new CBA


You also have to figure in the contract they would've had to sign Luka to, vs the ones that the Lakers can offer.

I believe Luka was eligible for 5/345 with Dallas, but only 5/229 with LA. That's a massive difference — a 23M/year difference.
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Post#1706 » by KGdaBom » Sun May 18, 2025 7:57 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
minimus wrote:Am I reading it right, that DAL traded Luka despite going into WCF last year. Does it mean that additional profit from playoffs game is not nearly enough to compensate luxury tax? I remember GSW were able to cover some costs of expensive roster by going deep in playoffs, but that was before new CBA


You also have to figure in the contract they would've had to sign Luka to, vs the ones that the Lakers can offer.

I believe Luka was eligible for 5/345 with Dallas, but only 5/229 with LA. That's a massive difference — a 23M/year difference.

I know this disparity was designed to help a team keep their own player, but something is wrong with the system. I don't know how to fix it though.
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Post#1707 » by KGdaBom » Sun May 18, 2025 8:02 pm

Denver up 11 early and at the line to build it larger. Still don't give them much chance.
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Post#1708 » by KGdaBom » Sun May 18, 2025 8:07 pm

Denver lead down to 5 at the end of the first. The beginning of the end.
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Post#1709 » by KGdaBom » Sun May 18, 2025 8:14 pm

Thunder on 13-0 run up 3.
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Post#1710 » by BlacJacMac » Sun May 18, 2025 8:19 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
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minimus wrote:Am I reading it right, that DAL traded Luka despite going into WCF last year. Does it mean that additional profit from playoffs game is not nearly enough to compensate luxury tax? I remember GSW were able to cover some costs of expensive roster by going deep in playoffs, but that was before new CBA


You also have to figure in the contract they would've had to sign Luka to, vs the ones that the Lakers can offer.

I believe Luka was eligible for 5/345 with Dallas, but only 5/229 with LA. That's a massive difference — a 23M/year difference.

I know this disparity was designed to help a team keep their own player, but something is wrong with the system. I don't know how to fix it though.


It was not well thought out. Or at least it didn't consider the upcoming aprons.

The only way I see it working like its intended is to make any "extra money" not count towards the cap or the tax.

So if the most another team can offer your player is 229, then you can still pay them 345, but it only counts as 229 towards the cap/tax. You're still going to pay the extra 116M to the player, but you won't get penalized because you're player qualified for more money only from you.

Its a mess how it is now. A team gets penalized because a player won an individual award.

If there is no change, I bet we start seeing upcoming Supermax players traded for each other to save teams money. Like a Banchero for Holmgren trade.
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Post#1711 » by winforlose » Sun May 18, 2025 8:34 pm

Aaron Gordon is outplaying half the guys on the floor with half the number of healthy hamstrings. One of the craziest things I have seen on a basketball court.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1712 » by Worm Guts » Sun May 18, 2025 8:42 pm

Jokic looks exhausted already. It seems unlikely Denver has enough in the tank to make a real push.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1713 » by KGdaBom » Sun May 18, 2025 8:58 pm

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You also have to figure in the contract they would've had to sign Luka to, vs the ones that the Lakers can offer.

I believe Luka was eligible for 5/345 with Dallas, but only 5/229 with LA. That's a massive difference — a 23M/year difference.

I know this disparity was designed to help a team keep their own player, but something is wrong with the system. I don't know how to fix it though.


It was not well thought out. Or at least it didn't consider the upcoming aprons.

The only way I see it working like its intended is to make any "extra money" not count towards the cap or the tax.

So if the most another team can offer your player is 229, then you can still pay them 345, but it only counts as 229 towards the cap/tax. You're still going to pay the extra 116M to the player, but you won't get penalized because you're player qualified for more money only from you.

Its a mess how it is now. A team gets penalized because a player won an individual award.

If there is no change, I bet we start seeing upcoming Supermax players traded for each other to save teams money. Like a Banchero for Holmgren trade.

Pretty good solutions to the problem. Thanks.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1714 » by KGdaBom » Sun May 18, 2025 9:03 pm

I'm calling game. Wolves vs Thunder. Go Wolves. ARRROOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post#1715 » by jpatrick » Sun May 18, 2025 9:27 pm

This reminds me of Wolves v Nuggets game 2 last year when Rudy was out for the birth of his child. We went a little smaller and swarmed the Nuggets, the refs letting us play really physical and a bit handsy. I’m not sure what benefits us more against the Thunder, a tight whistle or letting us play.
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Post#1716 » by KGdaBom » Sun May 18, 2025 9:45 pm

jpatrick wrote:This reminds me of Wolves v Nuggets game 2 last year when Rudy was out for the birth of his child. We went a little smaller and swarmed the Nuggets, the refs letting us play really physical and a bit handsy. I’m not sure what benefits us more against the Thunder, a tight whistle or letting us play.

I like us being the more aggressive team so I would favor letting us play and calling all the ticky tacky stuff on them. :D :bowdown: :rockon:
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Post#1717 » by winforlose » Sun May 18, 2025 9:51 pm

The pushovers got pushed over. This means WAR!!!
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1718 » by KGdaBom » Sun May 18, 2025 9:54 pm

winforlose wrote:The pushovers got pushed over. This means WAR!!!

They got pushed over in 7 games, but man did they get demolished in 2 of them IIRC.
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Re: Around the NBA (Part Two) 

Post#1719 » by shrink » Sun May 18, 2025 10:03 pm

To be the best, you want to beat the best.

At least we won’t see Ant taking OKC too lightly, like he might have with an injured DEN.
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Post#1720 » by KGdaBom » Sun May 18, 2025 10:09 pm

shrink wrote:To be the best, you want to beat the best.

At least we won’t see Ant taking OKC too lightly, like he might have with an injured DEN.

Honestly they are scary. We can win, but they are scary.

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