2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon

[KGdaBom]

Sochan would have been nice but like Eason I don't see him available at 19.

One thing I can absolutely 100% guarantee you is that somebody you don't see as being available at 19 will be. I can also 100% guarantee you that somebody you expect to be available at 19 won't be.

We can test my theory by you listing the 18 players you don't expect to be available at 19.

I'm messing with you, but hopefully you can see my point.

[KGdaBom]

How far up the draft could we upgrade #19 with a future 1st, Nowell and Naz?

Where would #19 + McDaniels get us?

I don't know, but there's no one in this draft worth trading McDaniels for.

Chet Holmgren is the predicted #1 in this draft. I'm confident we couldn't get him for 19 and McDaniels, but if we could would you see him as worth it?

[Mamba4Goat]

I’m at the point of willing to trade 19+Naz for an early/middle teens pick and hopefully landing Sochan or Eason. I’d also try to move up in the second and land Koloko if at all possible. I think he’s the best bang for your buck/fit center option for the Wolves.

[shangrila]

How far up the draft could we upgrade #19 with a future 1st, Nowell and Naz?

Where would #19 + McDaniels get us?

I don't know, but there's no one in this draft worth trading McDaniels for.

No one? That might be going a bit far.

I think we're in a good spot at 19. There is tiers in this draft for sure.

Banchero - Holmgren - Smith

Ivey - Murray - Sharpe

After that I think there's about ~15 guys who can be interchangeable, then another drop and about 10-15 more who can be good bench-spot starter guys. I'm glad we have so many picks in that range, however I think if we find someone we really love we should use what we can to move up and secure them. For me, I love Sochan and would give up any combo of 19, 40,48,50, Naz, Nowell, Russell, Balmaro, Vando? He could pair with McDaniels as the 3/4's of the future.

Right, so obviously I was being hyperbolic there. Realistically there's a few guys I'd trade McDaniels for. But those few guys won't be available for McDaniels, so I didn't factor them in.

And maybe you're right. I guess I'm viewing this all through my own opinion, which is that Sochan should be a top 10 pick and if he drops, not make it past the lottery. And any team that gets him will and should consider it a steal and be unwilling to trade him. But maybe the NBA will disagree. I keep seeing Agbaji in the lottery and he's a 20-30 guy for me at best so maybe I'm just way off.

[moss_is_1]

Right, so obviously I was being hyperbolic there. Realistically there's a few guys I'd trade McDaniels for. But those few guys won't be available for McDaniels, so I didn't factor them in.

And maybe you're right. I guess I'm viewing this all through my own opinion, which is that Sochan should be a top 10 pick and if he drops, not make it past the lottery. And any team that gets him will and should consider it a steal and be unwilling to trade him. But maybe the NBA will disagree. I keep seeing Agbaji in the lottery and he's a 20-30 guy for me at best so maybe I'm just way off.

I thought that was the case.

Agreed on Agbaji, I think he has a high floor where he can be a 3/D guy, who has a chance to be a bit more because he can create a little bit and he has some nice athleticism. However, I am a jayhawks fan and watched a lot of him and he has that role-player mentality, not a star. He coasts and isn't assertive. That's fine, just some might want to swing for a core piece where he's just going to be a good player, never a great one, IMO.

I need to watch some more of Tari Eason. I never realized how many points he was putting up? Is he that good of a scorer?
Also didn't realize that Liddell averaged that many blocks.
All 3 guys(with Sochan) make a lot of since in different ways for us. That's why I think Vando could be used as trade bait, I love what he brings and he could be more effective playing less minutes, still only 22, but his value is probably the highest it's been while he's signed onto a super cheap deal.

[shangrila]

Right, so obviously I was being hyperbolic there. Realistically there's a few guys I'd trade McDaniels for. But those few guys won't be available for McDaniels, so I didn't factor them in.

And maybe you're right. I guess I'm viewing this all through my own opinion, which is that Sochan should be a top 10 pick and if he drops, not make it past the lottery. And any team that gets him will and should consider it a steal and be unwilling to trade him. But maybe the NBA will disagree. I keep seeing Agbaji in the lottery and he's a 20-30 guy for me at best so maybe I'm just way off.

I thought that was the case.

Agreed on Agbaji, I think he has a high floor where he can be a 3/D guy, who has a chance to be a bit more because he can create a little bit and he has some nice athleticism. However, I am a jayhawks fan and watched a lot of him and he has that role-player mentality, not a star. He coasts and isn't assertive. That's fine, just some might want to swing for a core piece where he's just going to be a good player, never a great one, IMO.

Yeah, personally I don't see him developing beyond that 3&D role. I can see an argument for that, but just can't personally see it.

Although that's still a 10 year career kind of guy.

I need to watch some more of Tari Eason. I never realized how many points he was putting up? Is he that good of a scorer?

He's got decent handles and played a lot of C in college, not to mention his defence led to a lot of transition opportunities.

I really like Eason. Not sure I like some of the Kawhi hype I've seen but if he turns out like a OG Anunoby or healthy DeAndre Hunter I wouldn't be surprised.

Also didn't realize that Liddell averaged that many blocks.

The guy has elite defensive instincts. If he were 2 inches taller he'd probably be a top 6 pick.

I'm not sure he's ever more than a role player but he's a real seamless fit for what we do and need.

All 3 guys(with Sochan) make a lot of since in different ways for us. That's why I think Vando could be used as trade bait, I love what he brings and he could be more effective playing less minutes, still only 22, but his value is probably the highest it's been while he's signed onto a super cheap deal.

I'd keep Vando around, although he's approaching Okogie levels of "just get a freaking average shot already!".

To me, Naz is the guy that needs to be replaced. There's just no point in a poor man's KAT for us.

[KGdaBom]

Now that the draft lottery is done Tankathon has us taking Ty Ty. YUCK!!

[Rookie-Mistake]

We need to trade up

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[Neeva]

Now that the draft lottery is done Tankathon has us taking Ty Ty. YUCK!!

I want no part of him unless he falls to second round picks.

[theGreatRC]

Hardy, Liddell, Kessler are 3 guys I would be happy with.

[NebWolvesFan]

I'm a fan of Jovic. He seems like a Finch player (only scores at rim or behind the arc) plus he can spend his age 19 year in Europe. With 11 guys under contract, I would love to see the Wolves sign a couple free agents (MLE, BAE) and then resign Prince. Maybe the 3-4 million you save by having your FRP play in Europe can be given to Prince to get him to sign a 1-year deal like Pat Bev.

That's 14 players - let the 3 second-round picks battle for the final spot with Nate Knight.

I think Jovic will be a real player down the road.

[jpatrick]

Now that the draft lottery is done Tankathon has us taking Ty Ty. YUCK!!

I want no part of him unless he falls to second round picks.

I’m not sure about TyTy, but I don’t see the hate at pick 19. In the first half of the year, he was the most productive freshman guard in the country. While he doesn’t have the athleticism I’d want in a primary initiator, he can shoot, had a high BBIQ, and has decent size/length. He might be a decent fit next to Ant in the backcourt.

He also may be undervalued because he played through injuries the second half and Kentucky guards are always undervalued. Seems like almost every single one. The system does them no favors.

I saw someone else say, he had a lot of DLo in him. I can see that. And while DLo hate is high. Getting a DLo at 19 would be a steal.

I have a top 18 guys. TyTy is in that group.

[Domejandro]

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Dear Lord, those are some measurements.

[jpatrick]

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Dear Lord, those are some measurements.

That has to be close to the highest standing reach in combine history. If I’m Charlotte, I’m doing everything possible to get this guy for LaMelo as a lob threat.

[wolves_89]

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Dear Lord, those are some measurements.

That has to be close to the highest standing reach in combine history. If I’m Charlotte, I’m doing everything possible to get this guy for LaMelo as a lob threat.

Mark Williams to the Hornets seems like one of the safest bets in draft (unless the Knicks or Thunder pick him before 13).

[Dewey]

Now that the draft lottery is done Tankathon has us taking Ty Ty. YUCK!!

I want no part of him unless he falls to second round picks.

Stat-wise… not impressive at all.

Potential?…. No idea

Currently not a fan

[KGdaBom]

Now that the draft lottery is done Tankathon has us taking Ty Ty. YUCK!!

I want no part of him unless he falls to second round picks.

I’m not sure about TyTy, but I don’t see the hate at pick 19. In the first half of the year, he was the most productive freshman guard in the country. While he doesn’t have the athleticism I’d want in a primary initiator, he can shoot, had a high BBIQ, and has decent size/length. He might be a decent fit next to Ant in the backcourt.

He also may be undervalued because he played through injuries the second half and Kentucky guards are always undervalued. Seems like almost every single one. The system does them no favors.

I saw someone else say, he had a lot of DLo in him. I can see that. And while DLo hate is high. Getting a DLo at 19 would be a steal.

I have a top 18 guys. TyTy is in that group.

Than we have no shot at him. You're top 18 will obviously go in the first 18 picks.

[KGdaBom]

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Dear Lord, those are some measurements.

I thought they eliminated the idiotic measurements in shoes.

[shrink]

ORL winning the lottery may be the thing that makes them trade Jonathan Isaac, if we want to take that risk.

[Klomp]

ORL winning the lottery may be the thing that makes them trade Jonathan Isaac, if we want to take that risk.

If they settle on Smith as the pick.