2021 Draft thread

[SO_MONEY]

I think it's nuts Luka Garza went at 52. He was a monster in the Big Ten, the NBA really hates bigs. I wish we had a second-rounder to snatch him he can play, Detroit may have hit big getting him and the top pick.

He shouldn't have been drafted, it was a wasted pick, he is unplayable.

Last year you said Haliburton would suck. Your scouting record isn’t good.

Yawn.

[jpatrick]

He shouldn't have been drafted, it was a wasted pick, he is unplayable.

Last year you said Haliburton would suck. Your scouting record isn’t good.

Yawn.

I think Garza will have a long career in Europe. This NBA just isn’t designed for him. He’d stuck in the league for ten years if he’d been born twenty years earlier, just not now.

[moonpie]

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[Klomp]

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So essentially....summer league, training camp, Iowa Wolves is the most likely path for him.

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[KGdaBom]

Now that all the dust has settled it turned out to be the worst case scenario. The pick ended up being Kuminga and he would have been a great addition to our team. I've been a proponent of the Wiggins for DLo trade, but this was ouch.

[Klomp]

Now that all the dust has settled it turned out to be the worst case scenario. The pick ended up being Kuminga and he would have been a great addition to our team. I've been a proponent of the Wiggins for DLo trade, but this was ouch.

Kuminga is hardly worst case scenario.

[KGdaBom]

Now that all the dust has settled it turned out to be the worst case scenario. The pick ended up being Kuminga and he would have been a great addition to our team. I've been a proponent of the Wiggins for DLo trade, but this was ouch.

Kuminga is hardly worst case scenario.

Who do you think that could have realistically slid to 7 that would have been better?

[Neeva]

Lets hope Kuminga is a huge bust so I am not bitter about the Dumb dlo trade for the rest of my life.

[KGdaBom]

Lets hope Kuminga is a huge bust so I am not bitter about the Dumb dlo trade for the rest of my life.

Neeva believe it or not, but I have been strongly agreeing with most of what you've had to say. If Kuminga is a star that one is going to feel like a sucker punch to the gut.

[m2002brian]

Lets hope Kuminga is a huge bust so I am not bitter about the Dumb dlo trade for the rest of my life.

How long until it finally dawns on the majority that trading KAT away will be more productive than trading for KAT’s buddies.

[KGdaBom]

Lets hope Kuminga is a huge bust so I am not bitter about the Dumb dlo trade for the rest of my life.

How long until it finally dawns on the majority that trading KAT away will be more productive than trading for KAT’s buddies.

It might never dawn on any of us, because trading KAT away would be flat out stupid unless we got a ridiculously huge return.

[m2002brian]

Lets hope Kuminga is a huge bust so I am not bitter about the Dumb dlo trade for the rest of my life.

How long until it finally dawns on the majority that trading KAT away will be more productive than trading for KAT’s buddies.

It might never dawn on any of us, because trading KAT away would be flat out stupid unless we got a ridiculously huge return.

That exactly the point. To execute a trade before he asks out. But it’s a very tricky thing to do without upsetting the player if the trade never happens.
But a large return would be necessary and an all star + multiple firsts would be worth it if it makes us more stout defensively while not giving up much offensively and gives us more trade capital to use to bolster the roster around ant.
It’s very hard to take a team that was player A’s team (KAT)
And then suddenly say, nope, now it’s player B’s team (Ant) when player A is still on the team.

Sometimes cutting the past out to making way for the future is necessary in the long term for the betterment of the team. If you can get an excellent return, that shores up the present and gives future flexibility (assets for trades/picks) that allows the team to transform its identity. Go for it.

Because right now the culture follows player A.
That culture from afar looks soft and and inept defensively. It’s why a defensive coach can come in and still have a team that struggles defensively. The team follows player A. That’s why that same coach can go to another team and it plays well defensively. Because that teams player A isn’t soft and inept defensively.

It’s easy to deny and make up reasons why defense has been an issue. But it’s been an issue because from Love to Towns , Player A had been a one sided player who can’t lead what they can’t do.

[KGdaBom]

How long until it finally dawns on the majority that trading KAT away will be more productive than trading for KAT’s buddies.

It might never dawn on any of us, because trading KAT away would be flat out stupid unless we got a ridiculously huge return.

That exactly the point. To execute a trade before he asks out. But it’s a very tricky thing to do without upsetting the player if the trade never happens.
But a large return would be necessary and an all star + multiple firsts would be worth it if it makes us more stout defensively while not giving up much offensively and gives us more trade capital to use to bolster the roster around ant.
It’s very hard to take a team that was player A’s team (KAT)
And then suddenly say, nope, now it’s player B’s team (Ant) when player A is still on the team.

Sometimes cutting the past out to making way for the future is necessary in the long term for the betterment of the team. If you can get an excellent return, that shores up the present and gives future flexibility (assets for trades/picks) that allows the team to transform its identity. Go for it.

Because right now the culture follows player A.
That culture from afar looks soft and and inept defensively. It’s why a defensive coach can come in and still have a team that struggles defensively. The team follows player A. That’s why that same coach can go to another team and it plays well defensively. Because that teams player A isn’t soft and inept defensively.

It’s easy to deny and make up reasons why defense has been an issue. But it’s been an issue because from Love to Towns , Player A had been a one sided player who can’t lead what they can’t do.

Odds are we get worse by trading KAT instead of better. Put me in the camp that thinks trading him would be an extremely bad idea.

[Foye]

It might never dawn on any of us, because trading KAT away would be flat out stupid unless we got a ridiculously huge return.

That exactly the point. To execute a trade before he asks out. But it’s a very tricky thing to do without upsetting the player if the trade never happens.
But a large return would be necessary and an all star + multiple firsts would be worth it if it makes us more stout defensively while not giving up much offensively and gives us more trade capital to use to bolster the roster around ant.
It’s very hard to take a team that was player A’s team (KAT)
And then suddenly say, nope, now it’s player B’s team (Ant) when player A is still on the team.

Sometimes cutting the past out to making way for the future is necessary in the long term for the betterment of the team. If you can get an excellent return, that shores up the present and gives future flexibility (assets for trades/picks) that allows the team to transform its identity. Go for it.

Because right now the culture follows player A.
That culture from afar looks soft and and inept defensively. It’s why a defensive coach can come in and still have a team that struggles defensively. The team follows player A. That’s why that same coach can go to another team and it plays well defensively. Because that teams player A isn’t soft and inept defensively.

It’s easy to deny and make up reasons why defense has been an issue. But it’s been an issue because from Love to Towns , Player A had been a one sided player who can’t lead what they can’t do.

Odds are we get worse by trading KAT instead of better. Put me in the camp that thinks trading him would be an extremely bad idea.

The point to sell KAT was at least 1.5 years ago when he was still valued highly around the league. That's when selling high was still possible. Pretty sure I even posted this on here back then. Since that point, basically everything in the organization has gone down the toilet as predicted and no progress whatsoever with regards to becoming a winning organization.
At this point what is left is the decision is between selling low on KAT and acquiring a couple assets for the future OR being a mediocre team for years to come.

The decision that needs to be made is pretty clear IMO clear off the roster whatever you can and acquire assets for the future to build around Edwards and McDaniels. Towns is gone in 2024 at latest. More likely even earlier.

[m2002brian]

That exactly the point. To execute a trade before he asks out. But it’s a very tricky thing to do without upsetting the player if the trade never happens.
But a large return would be necessary and an all star + multiple firsts would be worth it if it makes us more stout defensively while not giving up much offensively and gives us more trade capital to use to bolster the roster around ant.
It’s very hard to take a team that was player A’s team (KAT)
And then suddenly say, nope, now it’s player B’s team (Ant) when player A is still on the team.

Sometimes cutting the past out to making way for the future is necessary in the long term for the betterment of the team. If you can get an excellent return, that shores up the present and gives future flexibility (assets for trades/picks) that allows the team to transform its identity. Go for it.

Because right now the culture follows player A.
That culture from afar looks soft and and inept defensively. It’s why a defensive coach can come in and still have a team that struggles defensively. The team follows player A. That’s why that same coach can go to another team and it plays well defensively. Because that teams player A isn’t soft and inept defensively.

It’s easy to deny and make up reasons why defense has been an issue. But it’s been an issue because from Love to Towns , Player A had been a one sided player who can’t lead what they can’t do.

Odds are we get worse by trading KAT instead of better. Put me in the camp that thinks trading him would be an extremely bad idea.

The point to sell KAT was at least 1.5 years ago when he was still valued highly around the league. That's when selling high was still possible. Pretty sure I even posted this on here back then. Since that point, basically everything in the organization has gone down the toilet as predicted and no progress whatsoever with regards to becoming a winning organization.
At this point what is left is the decision is between selling low on KAT and acquiring a couple assets for the future OR being a mediocre team for years to come.

The decision that needs to be made is pretty clear IMO clear off the roster whatever you can and acquire assets for the future to build around Edwards and McDaniels. Towns is gone in 2024 at latest. More likely even earlier.

I had thought that maybe he’d even be traded when we didn’t get our pick this year. That maybe we were just waiting to see if we’d luck out and keep it or lose it and trade KAT.

The only saving Grace may be if he plays well and stays healthy he builds up value by deadline or next draft.

[Klomp]

Teams don't just trade their best players unless the offer is way too good to be true or they feel there's no other option. We're not at either point and never have been there with Towns.

[Battletrigger]

How long until it finally dawns on the majority that trading KAT away will be more productive than trading for KAT’s buddies.

It might never dawn on any of us, because trading KAT away would be flat out stupid unless we got a ridiculously huge return.

That exactly the point. To execute a trade before he asks out. But it’s a very tricky thing to do without upsetting the player if the trade never happens.
But a large return would be necessary and an all star + multiple firsts would be worth it if it makes us more stout defensively while not giving up much offensively and gives us more trade capital to use to bolster the roster around ant.
It’s very hard to take a team that was player A’s team (KAT)
And then suddenly say, nope, now it’s player B’s team (Ant) when player A is still on the team.

Sometimes cutting the past out to making way for the future is necessary in the long term for the betterment of the team. If you can get an excellent return, that shores up the present and gives future flexibility (assets for trades/picks) that allows the team to transform its identity. Go for it.

Because right now the culture follows player A.
That culture from afar looks soft and and inept defensively. It’s why a defensive coach can come in and still have a team that struggles defensively. The team follows player A. That’s why that same coach can go to another team and it plays well defensively. Because that teams player A isn’t soft and inept defensively.

It’s easy to deny and make up reasons why defense has been an issue. But it’s been an issue because from Love to Towns , Player A had been a one sided player who can’t lead what they can’t do.

I've been saying that since all the Butler problems and nobody here agreed with me.

[Battletrigger]

Teams don't just trade their best players unless the offer is way too good to be true or they feel there's no other option. We're not at either point and never have been there with Towns.

And we keep sucking with that softass.