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2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#901 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:58 pm

minimus wrote:Okay, wish list for today draft night:

TyTy, Jovic, Dieng, Jalen Williams or Danel Terry at 19
Kessler at 40
Jabari Walker and Justin Lewis at 48, 50

Lets freaking do it!!!

I don't think the league will be stupid enough for Kessler to be available at 40. If they are sure.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#902 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:02 pm

karch34 wrote:
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karch34 wrote:19 I feel like Liddell is likely. Kessler I see us trading down since 19 for a backup C is not good use of resources.


First time that the name Paul Grant has come to mind in about 20 years


Lol. That made me laugh…and then cry.

Kessler isn’t terrible and would be useful. The key to it all is what’s the other moves we’re looking at. If Hartenstein or similar is our MLE then no. We’re going to have strong reactions regardless tomorrow night but that’s one piece of the off-season picture.

Regardless, hope everyone has a great draft night. We’re heading to San Diego so probably won’t get a chance to post during but will be following.

Paul Grant was Big10 honorable mention. Bobby Jackson from right here in Minnesota was the Big10 player of the year. That was one of the most frustrating drafts of all time for me watching us pass on the Big10 PotY to draft the honorable mention.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#903 » by Baseline81 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:09 pm

Thoughts on Jaden Hardy?

Shot 35-86 (40.7%) on catch-and-shoot looks.

Any chance he could be a combo guard next to Edwards?
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Post#904 » by Nick K » Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:29 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Thoughts on Jaden Hardy?

Shot 35-86 (40.7%) on catch-and-shoot looks.

Any chance he could be a combo guard next to Edwards?


He could be very, very good but has maturity issues, decision making needs work. Not a super athlete getting to the basket. Struggled a bit in the G league which surprised me. I wouldn't take him at 19.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#905 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 23, 2022 5:48 pm

Walker Kessler holding strong as the Wolves pick on Tankathon.
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Post#906 » by Isegrim » Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:33 pm

KGdaBom wrote:Walker Kessler holding strong as the Wolves pick on Tankathon.


Kessler is your 2022 Okongwu?
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Post#907 » by MN7725 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:05 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Thoughts on Jaden Hardy?

Shot 35-86 (40.7%) on catch-and-shoot looks.

Any chance he could be a combo guard next to Edwards?


I'm probably the biggest Nowell fan on here, so I would say we potentially have that

But I've been of the mindset that always take a wing or combo forward unless you have a no-doubter at the other positions, but there aren't any no-doubters at #19 of any draft

Hardy was top 5 HS recruit of his class, the talent is there for sure

He seems to be getting knocked down for going pro rather than playing 35 games/5 months in NCAA instead
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Post#908 » by Neeva » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:08 pm

Baseline81 wrote:Thoughts on Jaden Hardy?

Shot 35-86 (40.7%) on catch-and-shoot looks.

Any chance he could be a combo guard next to Edwards?


I think he will easily go top ten in a redraft years from now.
I hope The wolves end up with Sochan and Hardy somehow and Kessler in the second would be nice.
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Post#909 » by theGreatRC » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:14 pm

I’m team Hardy, hopefully Conelly is too.

Just gotta take BPA at this point
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#910 » by minimus » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:23 pm

Isegrim wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Walker Kessler holding strong as the Wolves pick on Tankathon.


Kessler is your 2022 Okongwu?

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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#911 » by thinktank » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:28 pm

theGreatRC wrote:I’m team Hardy, hopefully Conelly is too.

Just gotta take BPA at this point


Holy crap. He looks awesome!
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Post#912 » by Norseman79 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:34 pm

It has been so quiet....
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#913 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:37 pm

Isegrim wrote:
KGdaBom wrote:Walker Kessler holding strong as the Wolves pick on Tankathon.


Kessler is your 2022 Okongwu?

No I liked Okongwu way way more. If you want to say I was wrong about him it seems I was. I've paid no attention to him since we didn't get him. I never proposed drafting him at #1. I did propose trading #1 to Atlanta for Hunter and #6. Atlanta fans laughed me off, but it seems the Wolves get the last laugh. I'd always rather me be wrong and the Wolves be right, but more often I'm right and the Wolves are wrong. I would have stood pat at 11 and Drafted Brandon Clarke for example.

As for Kessler I would be happy if we draft him, but there are 18 other players I like just as much or more. So I'm good if we draft him and I'm good if we don't.

Edit: You inspired me to look up what Okongwu has done so far and he's looking pretty good. He just hasn't had much opportunity with Collins and Capela ahead of him. That's why Atlanta is looking hard at moving Capela or Collins. I'd obviously rather have Ant, but I'd love to add Okongwu to our team.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#914 » by bluethunder0005 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:14 pm

Kessler seems like a very late first or early 2nd guy and I don't think he's any better than Kamagate or Koloko to be honest. From the research I've done, there seems to be very little separation from picks like 16-45 which is pretty weird. I'd rather take high ceiling pick with #19 and settle in with high floor picks in the 2nd round. Guys like David Roddy, Aldones Williams, Kendall Brown, Ryan Rollins, and Keon Ellis are guys I like a fair amount plus the above mentioned Kamagate and Koloko.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#915 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:19 pm

bluethunder0005 wrote:Kessler seems like a very late first or early 2nd guy and I don't think he's any better than Kamagate or Koloko to be honest. From the research I've done, there seems to be very little separation from picks like 16-45 which is pretty weird. I'd rather take high ceiling pick with #19 and settle in with high floor picks in the 2nd round. Guys like David Roddy, Aldones Williams, Kendall Brown, Ryan Rollins, and Keon Ellis are guys I like a fair amount plus the above mentioned Kamagate and Koloko.

IMO he's head and shoulders over those guys. It will be fun to look back at them after a year or two. I hope your 16-45 all being equal is right. All we would need is 5 mistakes to be made and we end up with 4 darn good players.
Since you see them all pretty equal I'm just curious why you would rather be more risky with our first pick and play it safe with our last three?
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#916 » by BlacJacMac » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:23 pm

bluethunder0005 wrote:Kessler seems like a very late first or early 2nd guy and I don't think he's any better than Kamagate or Koloko to be honest. From the research I've done, there seems to be very little separation from picks like 16-45 which is pretty weird. I'd rather take high ceiling pick with #19 and settle in with high floor picks in the 2nd round. Guys like David Roddy, Aldones Williams, Kendall Brown, Ryan Rollins, and Keon Ellis are guys I like a fair amount plus the above mentioned Kamagate and Koloko.


I'd rather have Koloko than Kessler. Riskier, but way more upside.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#917 » by bluethunder0005 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:38 pm

KGdaBom wrote:
bluethunder0005 wrote:Kessler seems like a very late first or early 2nd guy and I don't think he's any better than Kamagate or Koloko to be honest. From the research I've done, there seems to be very little separation from picks like 16-45 which is pretty weird. I'd rather take high ceiling pick with #19 and settle in with high floor picks in the 2nd round. Guys like David Roddy, Aldones Williams, Kendall Brown, Ryan Rollins, and Keon Ellis are guys I like a fair amount plus the above mentioned Kamagate and Koloko.

IMO he's head and shoulders over those guys. It will be fun to look back at them after a year or two. I hope your 16-45 all being equal is right. All we would need is 5 mistakes to be made and we end up with 4 darn good players.
Since you see them all pretty equal I'm just curious why you would rather be more risky with our first pick and play it safe with our last three?


I think teams try to get too cute and go for the big upside plays in the 2nd round where as I like the idea of drafting those guys that played 3+ years of college and somewhat know their identity. For example take Ellis who I mentioned above, he may not even get drafted tonight but outside of a smaller frame he compares pretty well to his former teammate Herbert Jones who has turned out to be a steal in the 2nd round. So if we're going to get a couple high floor guys then I like the idea of taking a home run swing early. Guys like Jovic, Hardy, or Wesley are some guys I think have pretty high upside. But I'll probably be happy either way we attack the draft, thats just my personal view on the draft.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#918 » by SO_MONEY » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:46 pm

BlacJacMac wrote:
bluethunder0005 wrote:Kessler seems like a very late first or early 2nd guy and I don't think he's any better than Kamagate or Koloko to be honest. From the research I've done, there seems to be very little separation from picks like 16-45 which is pretty weird. I'd rather take high ceiling pick with #19 and settle in with high floor picks in the 2nd round. Guys like David Roddy, Aldones Williams, Kendall Brown, Ryan Rollins, and Keon Ellis are guys I like a fair amount plus the above mentioned Kamagate and Koloko.


I'd rather have Koloko than Kessler. Riskier, but way more upside.


Yup.
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#919 » by KGdaBom » Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:14 pm

I've barely seen Johnny Davis mentioned and it might be because there's no chance we get him, but he intrigues me like crazy. A SG who gets 9 rebounds per 36 and goes to the line a ton. Is he too redundant with Ant? His NBADraft.net profile is very reminiscent of Ant. https://www.nbadraft.net/players/johnny-davis/ Anybody feel qualified to comment on him? If we move up to 14 and he's there would we take him?
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Re: 2022 NBA Draft Talk: Never too soon 

Post#920 » by horaceworthy » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:26 pm

Top 2 at #19 for me:

Jalen Williams- everybody who’s anybody’s favorite riser. A lot of footage of him getting cooked off the bounce by future plumbers and firemen in the WCC, should benefit from fewer PoA responsibilities in the NBA. The combination of PF length with his shooting and legitimate PG skills is just so rare, and despite a mediocre first step on both ends of the floor, seems to have the tools to eventually not get hunted.

Dalen Terry- again, absurd length combined with legitimate PG skills. The shot needs to keep improving, but I think there’s enough touch to build on. Love his energy, court vision, activity level, competitive fire, and demonstrated willingness to put winning ahead of stats. When I read/hear about the qualities Connelly looks for in prospects, it seems like he’s describing Terry. I don’t typically put much stock into prospect interviews, but watching his, the kid just seems to have the eye of the tiger.
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