ImageImageImage

Is it time for a change?

Moderators: Domejandro, Worm Guts, Calinks

Klomp
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 68,782
And1: 22,367
Joined: Jul 08, 2005
Contact:
   

Is it time for a change? 

Post#1 » by Klomp » Wed Feb 9, 2011 9:12 am

When fully healthy and with the team, Luke Ridnour has been our starting point guard. Much of that had to do with Flynn's offseason injury recovery process. But Luke was originally brought here as a backup, not a starter. Combine that with Flynn's continued improvements as a starter, is it time to make Flynn the new starter, even when Ridnour returns to the team?
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Calinks
Forum Mod - Timberwolves
Forum Mod - Timberwolves
Posts: 50,235
And1: 17,158
Joined: Mar 29, 2006
   

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#2 » by Calinks » Wed Feb 9, 2011 9:18 am

Well it kind of sucks for Luke to lose his starting spot because his baby is sick. Flynn has been playing better though. I think I'd give Luke the spot when he comes back but depending on how the team plays I wont be afraid to make the start change. Luke would probably be really well suited off the bench though as instant fire power. Flynn is too hit or miss to be that spark right now.
When luck shuts the door skill comes in through the window.
Tirion
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,752
And1: 290
Joined: Oct 27, 2005

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#3 » by Tirion » Wed Feb 9, 2011 10:46 am

no.
in grander scheme of things it doesn't really matter as they both are below average starters, but Flynn is making too many silly mistakes to start for any team. Let him earn something for a change.
shangrila
RealGM
Posts: 13,511
And1: 6,584
Joined: Dec 21, 2009
Location: Land of Aus
 

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#4 » by shangrila » Wed Feb 9, 2011 11:04 am

Ridnour is still the better player by a fair margin, even with Flynn's recent improvements. So I would give it back to Luke whenever he returns.
User avatar
KAHN_SWITCH
Sophomore
Posts: 203
And1: 0
Joined: Jan 22, 2011

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#5 » by KAHN_SWITCH » Wed Feb 9, 2011 12:50 pm

Klomp wrote:When fully healthy and with the team, Luke Ridnour has been our starting point guard. Much of that had to do with Flynn's offseason injury recovery process. But Luke was originally brought here as a backup, not a starter. Combine that with Flynn's continued improvements as a starter, is it time to make Flynn the new starter, even when Ridnour returns to the team?


Personally, yes promote Flynn to the starting lineup. He is only going to get better with time, and i prefer him to be starting over Ridnour. Will only do his confidence the world of good by playing big minutes, while Luke has to get used to the back up role with the saviour coming next year.

Also it gives him an opportunity to showcase his skills to other nba teams, because to my dismay, realise that he will be traded before Rubio comes over.

Good luck to Jonny, he is a great kid, has the skills to be in the nba, he just needs a system that suits him.
Image
User avatar
CoffeeJanitor
Rookie
Posts: 1,189
And1: 1
Joined: Jan 01, 2011

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#6 » by CoffeeJanitor » Wed Feb 9, 2011 2:29 pm

Nope. Flynn is too inconsistent and still makes dumb plays, and that would be a dick move to Rid.
*Kebo 4 MVP*
User avatar
urinesane
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,012
And1: 2,887
Joined: May 10, 2010
 

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#7 » by urinesane » Wed Feb 9, 2011 3:51 pm

I think Flynn has shown a lot of improvement and brings a lot of energy to the team when he plays well. I think this time has actually been good overall for the team, because Bassy has really shown that he can play and has upped his trade value a lot. Flynn has gotten his confidence and his quickness back (his shot is looking much better, and he can actually beat people off the dribble now).

I think Flynn is the starter when Luke comes back, but I also think that they are a good combo, so we should have good results with either guy starting/backing up. The main reason I think Luke is the backup when he comes back is simple...that's what he was brought here to do until Flynn got back to form.
User avatar
UK-Wolf
Pro Prospect
Posts: 978
And1: 0
Joined: Oct 04, 2010
Location: Burnley, England.

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#8 » by UK-Wolf » Wed Feb 9, 2011 7:40 pm

Rid-Brewer-Beas-Love-Darko would be my starters, think it's already worked pretty well when used.

Flynn-Ellington-Johnson-Tolliver-Pek as reserves too, I think, ain't a bad rotation. I'd probably give Webster back his minutes too when he recovers.
Busch Legion
Rookie
Posts: 1,041
And1: 14
Joined: Oct 08, 2007
Location: North Dakota

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#9 » by Busch Legion » Wed Feb 9, 2011 7:46 pm

I made this suggestion a while ago.... Ridnour would HELP our team by leading the second unit imo.
Gobble
Sophomore
Posts: 175
And1: 1
Joined: Jul 09, 2010
       

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#10 » by Gobble » Wed Feb 9, 2011 7:52 pm

CoffeeJanitor wrote:Nope. Flynn is too inconsistent and still makes dumb plays, and that would be a dick move to Rid.


Flynn should definitely start. I think it's safe to say if you're making basketball decisions based on what's the nicest thing to do for individual players, you won't keep your job for long. The gap between Ridnour and Flynn in terms of overall contribution is very small. But Flynn has turned his season around here since being inserted in the starting lineup, and Ridnour hasn't done anything all season to justify messing with that.
Worm Guts
Forum Mod - Timberwolves
Forum Mod - Timberwolves
Posts: 27,365
And1: 12,224
Joined: Dec 27, 2003
     

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#11 » by Worm Guts » Wed Feb 9, 2011 8:05 pm

Flynn has closed the gap some in the last few games, but over the course of the season Ridnour has been way better. We probably want to see as much Flynn as possible before the season is over though.
User avatar
Foye
Club Captain- German Soccer
Posts: 25,067
And1: 3,618
Joined: Jul 29, 2008
Location: Frankfurt
 

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#12 » by Foye » Wed Feb 9, 2011 10:41 pm

He should start. If he doesn't start til the end of the season and Rubio comes over we have to sell him for a bag of donuts.
User avatar
Breakdown777
Veteran
Posts: 2,759
And1: 47
Joined: Sep 17, 2009
Location: MN

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#13 » by Breakdown777 » Wed Feb 9, 2011 10:56 pm

This team is tricky. I think that Ridnour probably benefits the team more if he's working with the second unit. Once Ridnour gets back, I'm hoping they try out both and see which works best.
"Llevaré mi talento a Minnesota".
User avatar
The J Rocka
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 13,570
And1: 1,732
Joined: Jun 27, 2009
Location: Minneapolis
   

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#14 » by The J Rocka » Thu Feb 10, 2011 2:34 am

You can't go back now. Flynn has been playing better as of late and you want him to stay confident & know that he's earned his starting spot back. Sorry Luke, but you'll be returning to the bench where we originally intended for you to be. It's just the way it goes sometimes.
User avatar
southern wolf
General Manager
Posts: 9,854
And1: 2,163
Joined: Aug 02, 2008
Location: Australia
   

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#15 » by southern wolf » Thu Feb 10, 2011 4:20 am

J_Era_3 wrote:You can't go back now. Flynn has been playing better as of late and you want him to stay confident & know that he's earned his starting spot back. Sorry Luke, but you'll be returning to the bench where we originally intended for you to be. It's just the way it goes sometimes.


I agree, and I think Rambis will stick with Flynn as starter when Luke comes back. Flynn's a more valuable player for us in the long-run and when a young player who's been struggling for a while hits a patch of form in a certain role, you would have to be hesitant to make another change.
Tirion
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,752
And1: 290
Joined: Oct 27, 2005

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#16 » by Tirion » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:12 am

J_Era_3 wrote:You can't go back now. Flynn has been playing better as of late and you want him to stay confident & know that he's earned his starting spot back. Sorry Luke, but you'll be returning to the bench where we originally intended for you to be. It's just the way it goes sometimes.


Flynn hasn't earned ****. He's still the headless clown he was in his first year, trying to showboat with 1 min left in a 4th quarter of a close game, then picking up stupid tech just for the hell of it. He still has the horrible AST/TO ratio. He's still the worst defender among point guards in the league. Please point me to one, just one, aspect of his game that has improved since last year.
Tirion
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,752
And1: 290
Joined: Oct 27, 2005

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#17 » by Tirion » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:17 am

And really people are clamoring for him to start? I think he should be cut on the spot for the way he has been playing this year. He's just not a NBA caliber player right now, mentally as much as skills-wise. Hell, I don't even sure he could play in Europe or NBADL for that matter. All this And-1 stuff he loves to try to do so much doesn't belong on a professional basketball court.
Klomp
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 68,782
And1: 22,367
Joined: Jul 08, 2005
Contact:
   

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#18 » by Klomp » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:19 am

Tirion wrote:And really people are clamoring for him to start? I think he should be cut on the spot for the way he has been playing this year. He's just not a NBA caliber player right now, mentally as much as skills-wise. Hell, I don't even sure he could play in Europe or NBADL for that matter. All this And-1 stuff he loves to try to do so much doesn't belong on a professional basketball court.

Overreact much?
tsherkin wrote:The important thing to take away here is that Klomp is wrong.
Esohny wrote:Why are you asking Klomp? "He's" actually a bot that posts random blurbs from a database.
Klomp wrote:I'm putting the tired in retired mod at the moment
Tirion
Assistant Coach
Posts: 3,752
And1: 290
Joined: Oct 27, 2005

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#19 » by Tirion » Sat Feb 12, 2011 8:26 am

Tirion wrote:Please point me to one, just one, aspect of his game that has improved since last year.
Calinks
Forum Mod - Timberwolves
Forum Mod - Timberwolves
Posts: 50,235
And1: 17,158
Joined: Mar 29, 2006
   

Re: Is it time for a change? 

Post#20 » by Calinks » Sat Feb 12, 2011 10:03 am

How did I know. The minute the kid has a poor game again people were going to lynch him. The predictable absurdity of fans never ceases to amaze me. It get to the point where people literally want that player to fail for the vindication of their own egos.
When luck shuts the door skill comes in through the window.

Return to Minnesota Timberwolves