MIN - LAC

[shrink]

Just a stray thought:

Mike Miller + Craig Smith for Chris Kaman

Chris Kaman
2008-09: $9,500,000
2009-10: $10,400,000
2010-11: $11,300,000
2011-12: $12,200,000

PG Baron Davis Jason Hart Mike Taylor Dontell Jefferson
SG Cuttino Mobley Eric Gordon Mike Taylor David Noel
SF Mike Miller Ricky Davis Al Thornton Tim Thomas Curtis Sumpter
PF Craig Smith Marcus Camby Tim Thomas Paul Davis Steve Novak
C Marcus Camby Brian Skinner DeAndre Jordan

[Mattya]

Minnesota Does this in a heartbeat, Clippers decline just as fast.

They already have a guy in Thorton that they like, and its not enough talent coming back to the Clippers.

Im not sure if it would work but maybe a Package of Love, Collins, McCants, and Mia's future 1st, that to me seems a lot closer.

Baron/Gordon
Cuttino/McCants or Brewer
Thorton
Love
Camby/Collins

Wolves look like

Foye/Telfaire
Miller/Carney
Gomes
Jefferson/Smith
Kaman

I still don't think Clippers accept, but I wouldn't want the Wolves to to that trade either

[B Calrissian]

I like almost all deals that involve Kaman coming to the Wolves (expect the unrealistic Miller/Love package). I would much rather see the Wolves do a deal like this rather than getting more cap space (Wally deal). Another guy I wouldn't mind seeing Miller being traded for is Hinrich. Hinrich is not quite the shooter that Miller is but he is an excellent defender.

[B Calrissian]

Minnesota Does this in a heartbeat, Clippers decline just as fast.

[size=150]They already have a guy in Thorton that they like[/size], and its not enough talent coming back to the Clippers.

Im not sure if it would work but maybe a Package of Love, Collins, McCants, and Mia's future 1st, that to me seems a lot closer.

Baron/Gordon
Cuttino/McCants or Brewer
Thorton
Love
Camby/Collins

Wolves look like

Foye/Telfaire
Miller/Carney
Gomes
Jefferson/Smith
Kaman

I still don't think Clippers accept, but I wouldn't want the Wolves to to that trade either

So if they wouldn't want Miller because they have Thornton why would they want Brewer? Or McCants? They just drafted a sg(Gordon).

[Mattya]

I believe they are going to try to make Gordon a Point Guard for the future, like we are doing to Foye.

He will see time at Shooting Guard too, plus if they get Brewer in this deal then Brewer could back up Thorton

so no worries

[Mattya]

and it was just hypothetical, i made it up in 3 seconds

[deeney0]

Of course, but I don't think LAC considers it. I'd add to Miller to get Kaman, I'm not exactly sure where I draw the line. Brewer, Love, or Foye? No. Craigers, Shaddy, Gomes? Yes. Miami pick? Maybe. Utah pick? Yes. Protection off Wolves pick? Maybe.

[C.lupus]

I'm having trouble figuring out what the Clippers are trying to do. They seem well stocked in the backcourt with B. Davis, Gordon, Mobley, R. Davis, and Thornton. I guess Camby is going to play PF, otherwise they have Kaman, Camby, and D. Jordan at C.

I just don't see how Miller or McCants would swing a deal with them. The only player besides Jefferson that looks like a good fit for them is Love and he would be next to untouchable in my book.

[deeney0]

I'd trade Love for Kaman, I just wouldn't add much. Love and Collins/Cardinal? Sure. Miller, no way.

[C.lupus]

My initial reaction to using Love was "no way!". I think this was mainly because I've spent considerable effort talking myself into him. The more I think about it, though, Love/Collins for Kaman makes good sense. Probably needs a sweetener, though - maybe Smith?

I think LAC would have the same initial reaction about trading Kaman. A Kaman for Love trade does a couple things for them, though. First, it balances their roster. They can play Camby at C with Collins as his backup and Jordan as his pupil. Love slides into the vacant PF position. Second, it gives the franchise more of a sense of direction. Right now, they seem to be stuck in limbo between win now (with B. Davis and Camby acquisitions) and rebuild. This would leave them with enough vets (Davis, Mobley, and Camby) to win some games and gives them a nice, intriguing core to build the future around (Gordon, Thornton, Love, and Jordan).

PG: Davis/Gordon
SG: Mobley/Davis/Gordon
SF: Thornton/ Thomas
PF: Love/Smith/Skinner
C: Camby/Collins/Jordan

For MN

PG: Foye/Telfair
SG: Miller/McCants/Brewer
SF: Gomes/Brewer/Miller/Carney
PF: Jefferson/Gomes/Madsen
C: Kaman/Jefferson

[Foye]

Sorry, but Love and Collins/Cardinal for Kaman?

Not even McHale, if LAC GM would do this trade.

Kaman is a real good player while Love is a Rookie who hasn't proven anything.

[Mattya]

m not trying to argue but, even if he is an unproven rookie he is the 5th pick in this years Draft

plus they get a lot of expiring money for next couple of years, to maybe go after a big name player.

Im not saying if they would or wouldn't do this but in my opinion, a Kaman for Love, Collins, and Brewer is a lot closer in value then Miller and Smith


I agree with C.lupus with how confused I am about what the Clips are trying to do. They really did get screwed by Brand leaving. Im pretty sure Baron would not have been signed if they would have known Brand was leaving for sure.

They really would have been a tough team to stop with Brand on that team.

[the_bruce]

If it was based around love I'd say yes, but an offer for miller would need to astound me. Mostly because he is the natural compliment to Jefferson.