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A bit of Timberwolves PG history since 1994

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A bit of Timberwolves PG history since 1994 

Post#1 » by GopherIt! » Sun Jan 4, 2009 12:01 pm

I compiled this for my own purpose but thought you all could get a good laugh (or cry)
out of it as well.


A bit of Timberwolves PG history since 1994. I made the list to highlight the absurdity of the point guard woes this team has undergone since that time. 1994 was the year Kevin McHale entered the Wolves front office. God bless him. For the most part it is broken down by year, player & games played.


YR--- Player------ GP
94-95 M. Williams 1g
95-96 M. Williams 9g
96-97 M. Williams DNP
97-98 M. Williams 25g
98-99 M. Williams 2g
98-99 S. Marbury 18g (forced trade)
01-02 T. Brandon 32g
02-03 T. Brandon DNP
03-04 T. Brandon DNP
03-04 S. Cassell injured multiple playoff games
04-05 S. Cassell 59g
03-04 T. Hudson 29g
05-06 T. Hudson 36g (other bad PG contracts M, Jaric)
06-07 T. Hudson 44g (other bad PG contracts M, Jaric, M. James)
07-08 R. Foye 39g
07-08 T. Hudson DNP (other bad PG contracts M, Jaric, M. James (via J. Howard))
08-09 T. Hudson DNP (other bad PG contracts M. Jaric, M. James (via B. Cardinal, J. Howard))
09-10 TBD (other bad PG contracts M. Jaric, (via B. Cardinal))

Except for two seasons the Wolves have had at least one significant PG injury or bad PG contract on the books every year since 1994. If that wasn't enough the team has managed to have had a combined 12 players fall into one of these categories just over the past four seasons.

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Re: A bit of Timberwolves PG history since 1994 

Post#2 » by shrink » Sun Jan 4, 2009 4:28 pm

Nice breakdown. I never really added it up like that.

Remember when everyone complained because MIN "only" got to the play-offs every year, but then couldn't get past the first round? I had noticed that KG's #2 guy was almost always injured by the time the play-offs rolled around. In fact, the time we got past the first round, we did it with Troy Hudson as our PG. Its a tribute to KG, and the complimentary pieces, that we did so well with our #2 guy (generally a PG) out of action.

Looking at your numbers, it shows that not only were the PG's impossibly injured, but injured at the wrong time as well.
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Re: A bit of Timberwolves PG history since 1994 

Post#3 » by 4ho5ive » Sun Jan 4, 2009 6:24 pm

Yep, our everyone always complains that we have never had a true/good Center, we have never really had much at PG either though.
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Re: A bit of Timberwolves PG history since 1994 

Post#4 » by casey » Sun Jan 4, 2009 7:50 pm

GopherIt! wrote:05-06 T. Hudson 36g (other bad PG contracts M, Jaric, M. James, M. Banks)

Banks? Seriously? He was hardly getting paid anything, he was in the last year of his rookie contract paying him $1.7Mil. And he went from being a throw-in to playing (relatively) great and earning the starting job. Or do you know that I loved Marcus and you're just trying to get me mad? What next, a SG history thread where you call Trenton Hassell overpaid and overrated?

shrink wrote:In fact, the time we got past the first round, we did it with Troy Hudson as our PG.

Hudson didn't play at all in the playoffs that year.

4ho5ive wrote:Yep, our everyone always complains that we have never had a true/good Center, we have never really had much at PG either though.

I wouldn't say that we didn't have much. Marbury, Brandon, and Cassell are some of the best players we've ever had. Probably the 3 most talented players other than Garnett. But a combination of bitchiness, injuries, and old age hurt us.
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Post#5 » by GopherIt! » Sun Jan 4, 2009 9:46 pm

Casey sayeth: Banks? Seriously? He was hardly getting paid anything, he was in the last year of his rookie contract paying him $1.7Mil. And he went from being a throw-in to playing (relatively) great and earning the starting job. Or do you know that I loved Marcus and you're just trying to get me mad? What next, a SG history thread where you call Trenton Hassell overpaid and overrated?


My chart was focused on injuries and bad contracts but overall I tried to cover all of the PG calamities we have endured since 1994, including Marcus, who essentially cost the team a #1 pick.
No ill will meant and had no idea which old players anyone (including yourself) likes/hates.
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Post#6 » by casey » Sun Jan 4, 2009 10:05 pm

I was just messin with ya. Banks was one of my favorite players, and you don't here his name mentioned much any more.

But it doesn't really add up when you look at how Banks played here and how he played elsewhere. Wolves fans generally have nothing but bad things to say about him, yet he played by far his best basketball here.
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Post#7 » by B Calrissian » Sun Jan 4, 2009 10:12 pm

casey wrote:Wolves fans generally have nothing but bad things to say about him.


Really? I thought he was decent while here. I was hoping the Wolves could resign him for cheap but then the Suns signed him for too much.
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Re: A bit of Timberwolves PG history since 1994 

Post#8 » by GopherIt! » Mon Jan 5, 2009 2:41 am

casey wrote:Casey sayeth: I was just messin with ya. Banks was one of my favorite players, and you don't here his name mentioned much any more.

But it doesn't really add up when you look at how Banks played here and how he played elsewhere. Wolves fans generally have nothing but bad things to say about him, yet he played by far his best basketball here.


Yeah, I guess he did alright for us, I just wish he would have cost less to try out. A pick for Jaric, a pick for Banks, at the time it was starting to feel like the Hershel Walker deal in super slow-mo.

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