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Post#121 » by Swav718 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:17 am

NyCeEvO wrote:ATL just locked up the 1 seed so they may rest a few against us.

hopefully they do us that favor, since were already gifting them a mid-round pick
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Post#122 » by Zachbretton » Sat Mar 28, 2015 12:03 pm

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NyCeEvO wrote:ATL just locked up the 1 seed so they may rest a few against us.

hopefully they do us that favor, since were already gifting them a mid-round pick


I dunno, in their mind... Our game is probably one they want to lock up because a loss for us is a gain for them


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Post#123 » by Prokorov » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:07 pm

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NyCeEvO wrote:ATL just locked up the 1 seed so they may rest a few against us.

hopefully they do us that favor, since were already gifting them a mid-round pick


There is ZERO chance they rest against us. them beating us could be the difference between them getting the 15th pick and the #1 pick.

they will come out guns blazing
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Post#124 » by Prokorov » Sat Mar 28, 2015 1:17 pm

MGrand15 wrote:Why 9-3? We're .5 back from Boston and they have the tie breaker right?


I had thought boston was a good bet to win 38 games. but looking at their schedule remaining it is actually kind of brutal, i thought it was easier.

7-4 the rest of the way probably gets it done. (38-44)

6-5 might as well looking at it (37-44) although that really depends on tie breaker. we get a better picture after the indy/boston/pacers games against themselves coming up.

i think 38 is the number we need to hit. probably wont need 39.

that said, 38 is alot of work to get to still.

7 more wins needed. even if you chalk up NY, Orl, LA(which i think would be insane to do since all can easily beat us and the knicks and orlando have played us tough) we still need to go 4-4 against:

Atlanta
Atlanta
Pacers
Toronto
Portland
Washington
Milwaukee
Chicago'

hopefully charlotte loses tonight. making this a 3 horse race instead of a 4 horse one would help
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Post#125 » by Prokorov » Sat Mar 28, 2015 2:05 pm

EXCLUSDING games against eachother.... If the Nets, Heat, Celts, Pacers, Hornets ONLY beat teams with worse records to finish out the season it would end up like this:

Miami 37-43 (+2 games vs. pacers, Hornets)
Boston 33-47 (+2 games vs. Pacers, Hornets)
Pacers 33-45 (+4 Games vs. Miami, Nets, Boston, Charlotte)
Nets 34-47 (+1 game vs. indy)
Hornets 33-46 (+3 games vs. heat, pacers, boston)

So I think miami is basically a lock. too many cupcakes left. From the next 4:

Pacers pretty much control their own destiny. how they do vs the other 4 will determine their fate. i think they have the best shot based on this.

Charlotte is on life support. they also kinda control their fate but are behind everyone currently and lose tiebreakers to us who have 1 more cupcake win.

Boston is out front, but they have the toughest schedule left. win% wise they dont but cupcakes vs. good teams its the hardest.

We NEEEEEEEED to beat the pacers. thats the big one left. hopefully the hornets can beat them also
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Re: 2nd Half Season Thread 

Post#126 » by Lamak » Sat Mar 28, 2015 5:50 pm

This season has so many storylines. Our team is fighting the Celtics who we gave all our picks for the 8th seed to play the #1 seed Atlanta who has our pick this year, also Joe Johnson's former team. More interesting than the start of the season to say the least. I hope we pull through and scoop the spot up, I think we could steal some games against ATL in the playoffs. :)
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Post#127 » by Swav718 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 8:49 pm

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Swav718 wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:ATL just locked up the 1 seed so they may rest a few against us.

hopefully they do us that favor, since were already gifting them a mid-round pick


There is ZERO chance they rest against us. them beating us could be the difference between them getting the 15th pick and the #1 pick.

they will come out guns blazing

Good point. Teague has been out so maybe he still sits when we play them, I dont think their bench is as good as ours which is where we need to take advantage, our bench is probably our biggest advantage. We need to try our best to atleast take 1 game and play as hard as we played the cavs and warriors. Hopefully thad is healthy and can keep up with millsap in those games
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Post#128 » by Swav718 » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:00 pm

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MGrand15 wrote:Why 9-3? We're .5 back from Boston and they have the tie breaker right?


I had thought boston was a good bet to win 38 games. but looking at their schedule remaining it is actually kind of brutal, i thought it was easier.

7-4 the rest of the way probably gets it done. (38-44)

6-5 might as well looking at it (37-44) although that really depends on tie breaker. we get a better picture after the indy/boston/pacers games against themselves coming up.

i think 38 is the number we need to hit. probably wont need 39.

that said, 38 is alot of work to get to still.

7 more wins needed. even if you chalk up NY, Orl, LA(which i think would be insane to do since all can easily beat us and the knicks and orlando have played us tough) we still need to go 4-4 against:

Atlanta
Atlanta
Pacers
Toronto
Portland
Washington
Milwaukee
Chicago'

hopefully charlotte loses tonight. making this a 3 horse race instead of a 4 horse one would help

Games we NEED/SHOULD win: NY, Orl, LA

Games we COULD win if play the right way:
Mil (playing bad since allstar and we beat them in a tough 3OT game),
WSH (not that good of a team,beat them before,some might rest because its the end of the season and looks like they're a lock for 5th seed,
TOR (Lowry is out indefinitely,not that good, beat them before),
Chi (Rest,beat them before, injuries)
IND (I think this is the game that will make or break us)
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Post#129 » by Prokorov » Sat Mar 28, 2015 9:22 pm

Swav718 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Swav718 wrote:hopefully they do us that favor, since were already gifting them a mid-round pick


There is ZERO chance they rest against us. them beating us could be the difference between them getting the 15th pick and the #1 pick.

they will come out guns blazing

Good point. Teague has been out so maybe he still sits when we play them, I dont think their bench is as good as ours which is where we need to take advantage, our bench is probably our biggest advantage. We need to try our best to atleast take 1 game and play as hard as we played the cavs and warriors. Hopefully thad is healthy and can keep up with millsap in those games


their starts are alot better. like we arent even near the same class as them. and there bench isnt too far off. they have some good players there too.

i cant see either atlanta game not being a blowout loss
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Post#130 » by Trader_Joe » Sat Mar 28, 2015 11:13 pm

Interesting...

Brooklyn is 14-14 when Bogdanovic scores 10 points or more. Just being .500 doesn't sound like much, but when you take into account the fact that the Nets are 16-26 when he doesn't, you begin to see the value he has.

With the playoff chase in full bloom, Bogdanovic has been at his best. Maybe it was having the game played at his home court, but since the All-Star break, Bogdanovic has averaged 10.8 points on 50.4 percent shooting from the field and 39.2 percent from behind the arc. His 59.2 true shooting percentage is the highest among all rookies on this list since the All-Star break.
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Post#131 » by MGrand15 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:32 am

Prokorov wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:Why 9-3? We're .5 back from Boston and they have the tie breaker right?


I had thought boston was a good bet to win 38 games. but looking at their schedule remaining it is actually kind of brutal, i thought it was easier.

7-4 the rest of the way probably gets it done. (38-44)

6-5 might as well looking at it (37-44) although that really depends on tie breaker. we get a better picture after the indy/boston/pacers games against themselves coming up.

i think 38 is the number we need to hit. probably wont need 39.

that said, 38 is alot of work to get to still.

7 more wins needed. even if you chalk up NY, Orl, LA(which i think would be insane to do since all can easily beat us and the knicks and orlando have played us tough) we still need to go 4-4 against:

Atlanta
Atlanta
Pacers
Toronto
Portland
Washington
Milwaukee
Chicago'

hopefully charlotte loses tonight. making this a 3 horse race instead of a 4 horse one would help


That makes sense. 9-3 just seemed excessive with how awful and inconsistent the bottom of the east has been.

The "good' thing is that we still control our own destiny. It's not like we need the other teams to collapse. If we can't go 6-5 - regardless of schedule - we don't deserve the playoffs. ATL is resting guys, Indiana/Toronto/Wash/Mil are declining.

You're right though. Chalking up ANY games as Ws is insane at this point. We got blown out vs. Charlotte and Boston at home. Crucial games too. This team can't be trusted for anything. Our best bet is that we hit a 'stride', ATL + some of the other playoff teams start resting their guys, and we do what we're supposed to do. Can't hope that Boston or any other team is gonna start losing. As bad as the other teams in the race are, they bring it every night. We're not going to walk into the playoffs by hitting .500 during this stretch.
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Post#132 » by MGrand15 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 6:34 am

Prokorov wrote:
Swav718 wrote:
NyCeEvO wrote:ATL just locked up the 1 seed so they may rest a few against us.

hopefully they do us that favor, since were already gifting them a mid-round pick


There is ZERO chance they rest against us. them beating us could be the difference between them getting the 15th pick and the #1 pick.

they will come out guns blazing


IDK I don't completely disagree but they're probably more worried about the playoffs and being 100% healthy. Not our ridiculous pick swap. Smart teams think long term. Long term means the difference between 10 and 15 isn't huge.
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Post#133 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:57 pm

Trader_Joe wrote:Interesting...

Brooklyn is 14-14 when Bogdanovic scores 10 points or more. Just being .500 doesn't sound like much, but when you take into account the fact that the Nets are 16-26 when he doesn't, you begin to see the value he has.

With the playoff chase in full bloom, Bogdanovic has been at his best. Maybe it was having the game played at his home court, but since the All-Star break, Bogdanovic has averaged 10.8 points on 50.4 percent shooting from the field and 39.2 percent from behind the arc. His 59.2 true shooting percentage is the highest among all rookies on this list since the All-Star break.


That's because "Bo-yan" is giving the Nets the offensive umph that is missing since D-Will and Joe decided to stop giving a **** about their jobs. Problem is he isnt consistent. I definitely like what he brings though when he gets into a groove.
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Post#134 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:58 pm

MGrand15 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Swav718 wrote:hopefully they do us that favor, since were already gifting them a mid-round pick


There is ZERO chance they rest against us. them beating us could be the difference between them getting the 15th pick and the #1 pick.

they will come out guns blazing


IDK I don't completely disagree but they're probably more worried about the playoffs and being 100% healthy. Not our ridiculous pick swap. Smart teams think long term. Long term means the difference between 10 and 15 isn't huge.


I highly doubt when we play the Hawks the players will give two squats about the pick swap.
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Re: 2nd Half Season Thread 

Post#135 » by Prokorov » Sun Mar 29, 2015 3:31 pm

MGrand15 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
MGrand15 wrote:Why 9-3? We're .5 back from Boston and they have the tie breaker right?


I had thought boston was a good bet to win 38 games. but looking at their schedule remaining it is actually kind of brutal, i thought it was easier.

7-4 the rest of the way probably gets it done. (38-44)

6-5 might as well looking at it (37-44) although that really depends on tie breaker. we get a better picture after the indy/boston/pacers games against themselves coming up.

i think 38 is the number we need to hit. probably wont need 39.

that said, 38 is alot of work to get to still.

7 more wins needed. even if you chalk up NY, Orl, LA(which i think would be insane to do since all can easily beat us and the knicks and orlando have played us tough) we still need to go 4-4 against:

Atlanta
Atlanta
Pacers
Toronto
Portland
Washington
Milwaukee
Chicago'

hopefully charlotte loses tonight. making this a 3 horse race instead of a 4 horse one would help


That makes sense. 9-3 just seemed excessive with how awful and inconsistent the bottom of the east has been.

The "good' thing is that we still control our own destiny. It's not like we need the other teams to collapse. If we can't go 6-5 - regardless of schedule - we don't deserve the playoffs. ATL is resting guys, Indiana/Toronto/Wash/Mil are declining.

You're right though. Chalking up ANY games as Ws is insane at this point. We got blown out vs. Charlotte and Boston at home. Crucial games too. This team can't be trusted for anything. Our best bet is that we hit a 'stride', ATL + some of the other playoff teams start resting their guys, and we do what we're supposed to do. Can't hope that Boston or any other team is gonna start losing. As bad as the other teams in the race are, they bring it every night. We're not going to walk into the playoffs by hitting .500 during this stretch.


what worries me is atlanta is gonna do whatever they can to keep us out. they just rested their starters vs charlotte despite coming off an off night and having off the next day. they will go balls to the wall vs us im sure.
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Post#136 » by Swav718 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 4:26 pm

Prokorov wrote:
Swav718 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
There is ZERO chance they rest against us. them beating us could be the difference between them getting the 15th pick and the #1 pick.

they will come out guns blazing

Good point. Teague has been out so maybe he still sits when we play them, I dont think their bench is as good as ours which is where we need to take advantage, our bench is probably our biggest advantage. We need to try our best to atleast take 1 game and play as hard as we played the cavs and warriors. Hopefully thad is healthy and can keep up with millsap in those games


their starts are alot better. like we arent even near the same class as them. and there bench isnt too far off. they have some good players there too.

i cant see either atlanta game not being a blowout loss

Well the hornets just blew the hawks out so u still dont think we could steal a game? It would be smart for the hawks coach to start resting players since they already locked up the 1 seed and he shouldnt want to take any risk with late season injuries
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Post#137 » by Hawk Eye » Sun Mar 29, 2015 5:28 pm

^

The hornets blew out our reserves. Our starting lineup was

Schröder/Jenkins/Bazemore/Brand/Muscala

We rested our ENTIRE starting 5.

To be honest I don't really know whether Bud will rest our starters against the two games we play against yall or not. Personally I think the only games we should play our starters from here on out is our two remaining games against you. If we rest the whole starting 5 against yall then you guys will definitely win.
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Post#138 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Mar 29, 2015 7:21 pm

PMOTT3 wrote:^

The hornets blew out our reserves. Our starting lineup was

Schröder/Jenkins/Bazemore/Brand/Muscala

We rested our ENTIRE starting 5.

To be honest I don't really know whether Bud will rest our starters against the two games we play against yall or not. Personally I think the only games we should play our starters from here on out is our two remaining games against you. If we rest the whole starting 5 against yall then you guys will definitely win.


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Post#139 » by Prokorov » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:24 am

Swav718 wrote:
Prokorov wrote:
Swav718 wrote:Good point. Teague has been out so maybe he still sits when we play them, I dont think their bench is as good as ours which is where we need to take advantage, our bench is probably our biggest advantage. We need to try our best to atleast take 1 game and play as hard as we played the cavs and warriors. Hopefully thad is healthy and can keep up with millsap in those games


their starts are alot better. like we arent even near the same class as them. and there bench isnt too far off. they have some good players there too.

i cant see either atlanta game not being a blowout loss

Well the hornets just blew the hawks out so u still dont think we could steal a game? It would be smart for the hawks coach to start resting players since they already locked up the 1 seed and he shouldnt want to take any risk with late season injuries


charlotte didnt beat the hawks, they beat the hawks d-league affiliate. hawks will play their starters in both games against us. thats a certainty
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Re: 2nd Half Season Thread 

Post#140 » by Prokorov » Wed Apr 1, 2015 2:24 am

Enormous win tonite. .5 up on boston with boston playing the pacers tomorrow. we either get the pacers buried deeper or get more ground on boston.... thats all assuming we dont have a massive kick in the nuts loss to the knicks(which im half expecting)

Miami loses tonite and we are tied with them in the loss column. them going into a massive tailspin would be fantastic for us as well.

tommorow:

nets/knicks

pacers/boston

piston/hornets

gotta take care of business though. we need that win, and its going to be a dogfight like tonght was

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