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Post#121 » by kamaze » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:27 pm

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PJ tucket is 6'5" and has been one of the better defensive PFs/combo forwards the last couple years


Unlike Tucker Zion has a short wingspan so you and whoever +1 your post misjudged him.


tucker is list at 6'5" with a 6'10" wingspan

Zion at 6'6" with a 6'10" wingspan

you can give it + or - one inch based on what site you use but they are basically the same height and reach/wingspan. onyl zion has like 60 pounds and 14" of verticale on him


He's a power forward with shorter wingspan than your average small forward the video highlights that as a weakness.



Take heed to it he'll be a one and done player most likely while PJ spent 3 years at Texas. You're use of the "PJ did it" is off when Zion hasn't proved it against good competition in college yet let alone NBA players.
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Post#122 » by kamaze » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:38 pm

Do you have a link for his supposed 6'10 wingspan? I saw it at 7' not 6'10.

Player – Height in shoes – Wingspan
Bargnani, Andrea – 7’1″ – 7’3″
Bosh, Chris – 6’11.5″ – 7’3.5″
Ford, TJ – 6’0.25″ – 5’11.5″
Graham, Joey – 6’6.5″ – 6’8″
Humphries, Chris – 6’9.5″ – 7’5.5″
Jones, Fred – 6’3.5″ – 6’11”
Peterson, Mo – 6’7.5″ – 6’10”
Sow, Pape – 6’10” – 7’2″
Tucker, PJ – 6’5″ – 7′


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Zion Lateef Williamson is an American college basketball player for the Duke Blue Devils in the Atlantic Coast Conference. He attended Spartanburg Day School in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Wikipedia
Born: July 7, 2000 (age 18 years), Salisbury, NC
Height: 6′ 6″
Listed weight: 285 lbs
Wingspan: 6′ 10″

Education: Spartanburg Day School
Current team: Spartanburg Day School men's basketball (#12 / Forward)
Parents: Sharonda Sampson, Lateef Williamson


So PJ is an inch shorter with longer arms nice try though.
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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#123 » by Prokorov » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:46 pm

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Unlike Tucker Zion has a short wingspan so you and whoever +1 your post misjudged him.


tucker is list at 6'5" with a 6'10" wingspan

Zion at 6'6" with a 6'10" wingspan

you can give it + or - one inch based on what site you use but they are basically the same height and reach/wingspan. onyl zion has like 60 pounds and 14" of verticale on him


He's a power forward with shorter wingspan than your average small forward the video highlights that as a weakness.



Take heed to it he'll be a one and done player most likely while PJ spent 3 years at Texas. You're use of the "PJ did it" is off when Zion hasn't proved it against good competition in college yet let alone NBA players.


You missed the entire point. The entire point was that you dont need to be 6'10" or have a 7'2" wingspan to defend PFs at the NBA level, with PJ tucker being the example of that.

What does playing 3 years in college at texas have to do with defense/using strength/tenacity to make up for length?

OF COURSE zion hasnt proven anything. he has played 0 regular season college games. no one was saying he was proven, just that the length/heigh criticisms were overblown. Zion should be able to transition to the 4 spot on the NBA, similar to tucker or better comparisons would prbably be LJ and barkley since those guys were elite athletes like zion is.
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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#124 » by kamaze » Sat Aug 18, 2018 12:58 pm

Now I'm missing the point after you got called out on your bull **** :lol; keep twisting your words.
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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#125 » by Prokorov » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:30 pm

kamaze wrote:Now I'm missing the point after you got called out on your bull **** :lol; keep twisting your words.


Why do you always need to curse at people when you are exposed for being obtuse?

who is twisting words?

Tucker is a great comparison, since they are near identical in height/wingspan measurements.

LJ/Barkley are great comparisons since they are near identical in measurements and also had elite athleticism for their size and heavy frames.
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Post#126 » by kamaze » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:35 pm

I curse a lot when I type(not only on this site).

It's a good comparison but PJ's arms are longer than Zion's and the difference in wingspan effects his game.
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Post#127 » by shakendfries » Sat Aug 18, 2018 1:54 pm



I want to see the ball movement of a lineup with LeVert playing next to Barrett
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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#128 » by Prokorov » Sat Aug 18, 2018 2:14 pm

kamaze wrote:I curse a lot when I type(not only on this site).

It's a good comparison but PJ's arms are longer than Zion's and the difference in wingspan effects his game.


zion is taller by 1 inch, PJ longer by 2 inches or maybe even the same. PJ didnt measure his wingspan at the 2006 combined. his numbers vary by different resources. but even say his is 7 foot, they are still basically the same height and length. and PJ isnt close t the athlete zion is, with his 40" verticle and also not as big with zion at 275-285.

back to the point. Zion projects to be able to gaurd PFs at the NBA level, even at 6'6" due to his size/strength/athlelticism
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2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#129 » by Paradise » Sat Aug 18, 2018 5:13 pm

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Post#130 » by MrDollarBills » Sat Aug 18, 2018 8:43 pm

kamaze wrote:I curse a lot when I type(not only on this site).

It's a good comparison but PJ's arms are longer than Zion's and the difference in wingspan effects his game.


two inches of wing span means diddly squat when you can jump out of the building and you're a 285 lb tank.
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Post#131 » by shakendfries » Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:40 pm

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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#132 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:26 pm

his body control in mid air is ridiculous.

Thank god that the Nets final slate of games in April are all versus playoff teams. The schedule makers have shined their good graces on us.
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Post#133 » by Duke4life831 » Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:59 pm

kamaze wrote:Do you have a link for his supposed 6'10 wingspan? I saw it at 7' not 6'10.

Player – Height in shoes – Wingspan
Bargnani, Andrea – 7’1″ – 7’3″
Bosh, Chris – 6’11.5″ – 7’3.5″
Ford, TJ – 6’0.25″ – 5’11.5″
Graham, Joey – 6’6.5″ – 6’8″
Humphries, Chris – 6’9.5″ – 7’5.5″
Jones, Fred – 6’3.5″ – 6’11”
Peterson, Mo – 6’7.5″ – 6’10”
Sow, Pape – 6’10” – 7’2″
Tucker, PJ – 6’5″ – 7′


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Zion Lateef Williamson is an American college basketball player for the Duke Blue Devils in the Atlantic Coast Conference. He attended Spartanburg Day School in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Wikipedia
Born: July 7, 2000 (age 18 years), Salisbury, NC
Height: 6′ 6″
Listed weight: 285 lbs
Wingspan: 6′ 10″

Education: Spartanburg Day School
Current team: Spartanburg Day School men's basketball (#12 / Forward)
Parents: Sharonda Sampson, Lateef Williamson


So PJ is an inch shorter with longer arms nice try though.


Im curious on where you saw PJ Tucker's wingspan at 7 feet. Everywhere I saw has it at 6'9. Shane Battier was a really good defender that had a wingspan of only 6'10. Justise Winslow played primarily at the 4 last year and is a really good defender that has a wingspan of only 6'10/
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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#134 » by shakendfries » Thu Aug 23, 2018 3:48 pm

As much as RJ and Zion have impressed, Cam Reddish might be even better





future Nets starting SF? :nod:
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Post#135 » by JiggaMan06 » Thu Aug 23, 2018 6:08 pm

Darious Garland for Vandy is gonna be a top 10 pick next year. Kid can ball
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Post#136 » by MrDollarBills » Thu Aug 23, 2018 7:01 pm

This thread should be changed to the official Duke 18-19 Season thread. All three of these Duke boys would look great in the black and white. This will be the first time I'm excited to watch Duke play since the Grant Hill/Bobby Hurley days
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Post#137 » by NyCeEvO » Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:16 pm

shakendfries wrote:As much as RJ and Zion have impressed, Cam Reddish might be even better.

future Nets starting SF? :nod:

Zion is the most naturally gifted/athletic, RJ combines very good talent with a high motor, and Cam is the most skilled at this moment.

It's very hard to predict who will be the best out of them all, because each has question marks:
— Can Zion keep a manageable (or more importantly, a healthy) weight that will reduce wear and tear on his body? Can he develop enough of a shooting and/or playmaking repertoire to keep the defense honest?
— While RJ is athletic, he's not a super-athlete and will need to rely upon other skills to be a star at the next level. Will he continue to develop those skills at an elite level?
— Will Cam give great effort on a consistent basis, especially on the defensive end? Does he want to be the best or simply good enough to get paid?

Any can be the best if they address these main concerns. I'd be happy with any of them, knowing that Kenny should be able to get the most out of them.
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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#138 » by Prokorov » Thu Aug 23, 2018 10:41 pm

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shakendfries wrote:As much as RJ and Zion have impressed, Cam Reddish might be even better.

future Nets starting SF? :nod:

Zion is the most naturally gifted/athletic, RJ combines very good talent with a high motor, and Cam is the most skilled at this moment.

It's very hard to predict who will be the best out of them all, because each has question marks:
— Can Zion keep a manageable (or more importantly, a healthy) weight that will reduce wear and tear on his body? Can he develop enough of a shooting and/or playmaking repertoire to keep the defense honest?
— While RJ is athletic, he's not a super-athlete and will need to rely upon other skills to be a star at the next level. Will he continue to develop those skills at an elite level?
— Will Cam give great effort on a consistent basis, especially on the defensive end? Does he want to be the best or simply good enough to get paid?

Any can be the best if they address these main concerns. I'd be happy with any of them, knowing that Kenny should be able to get the most out of them.


to be honest, of the three of them, Zion is the only one to me who looks like his shot isnt broken
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Re: 2019 Draft Prospect Watch Thread 

Post#139 » by MrDollarBills » Fri Aug 24, 2018 2:34 am

I don't want to jump the gun but just imagining a prospect like Williamson locked in with the team's training staff and under Kenny's watch...oh god i would cry tears of joy.
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Post#140 » by JoseRizal » Fri Aug 24, 2018 12:52 pm

Zion is “The pick” for me! You can never go wrong with natural physical gifts coupled with an elite developmental coach & staff.

OTOH, it’s so refreshing to finally read discussions on top tier prospects as opposed to end of the round picks we’re left off since 2015...

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