Nets @ Heat 2-12-22 8:00 PM

[ajones9219]

How about we just agree kyrie and harden are both clowns?

The issue is that some Nets fans and possibly those within the organization, believed that the problems with the team started and ended with Harden, which is complete BS.

The reality is that Kyrie is the problem, and it won't end until Kyrie is gone. Throwing Harden under the bus then trading him, lifting vaccine mandates are just band aids to cover up the real issue which is that Kyrie is a lunatic and the Nets cannot stand up to him because of injuries and his ties to KD.

Dude I remember his last year with us. It was my birthday in January and I heard the first rumblings that he wanted out and wanted to go to New York and I felt sick. By the time the playoffs were done I would have driven him to the airport myself. Everyone has a point where they are just done with the Kyrie BS. Some people can handle more than others but the dude wears down everyone eventually.

[Jay555]

If you have Durant then Kyrie is irrelevent.

Imagine quitting because you have 2 superstars instead of 3.

Stop pretending like its ok to just openly quit in the middle of the season because of Kyrie being an idiot when have **** Kevin Durant.

This mentality is why Harden has never won ****.

Harden owes you nothing, just how you think that Kyrie doesn't owe you to get vaccinated.

Durant is out with a knee ligament injury. There is no definite date for his return. We don't know what shape he will be in when he comes back.

Our season is over.

But go on.

Stop using Kyrie as an excuse. Just cause hes being an idiot doesn't mean Harden can be too.

Harden owes us nothing? We gave up a ton of assets for him! He demanded to be here. And then he quit on us.

KD is a few weeks away and has said so on multiple occasions.

If Harden is an MVP he would take the challenge. Instead of running away like a **** coward.

What did KD do when Harden kept hurting his hamstring cause hes a fat piece of ****. He played without him with no complaints.

If you really cared about the Nets you wouldn't excuse someone **** on this franchise like this.

Hes worse than Deron Williams.

Take the challenge? Nah, exactly why he wanted out. He did this in Houston and last year here and got SICK of it. I Like how D Wade put it "He has a different level of urgency than Kyrie & KD." I am sure he would be more motivated if Kyrie can play full time or Marks could pull some trades like Eric Gordan for Joe before the trade deadline etc. That way, at least he can see some hope.

Honestly, I would be running away if I have a lunatic teammate or coworker. Harden should not have done it this way or could have been more patient, but I applaud him for standing up and say "**** it, I am out of here" while the rest including KD continue to baby Kyrie. No joke. Kyrie has completely gone INSANE since Kobe passed away. Some of the **** that he said these days are just SMH.

[MrDollarBills]

If you have Durant then Kyrie is irrelevent.

Imagine quitting because you have 2 superstars instead of 3.

Stop pretending like its ok to just openly quit in the middle of the season because of Kyrie being an idiot when have **** Kevin Durant.

This mentality is why Harden has never won ****.

Harden owes you nothing, just how you think that Kyrie doesn't owe you to get vaccinated.

Durant is out with a knee ligament injury. There is no definite date for his return. We don't know what shape he will be in when he comes back.

Our season is over.

But go on.

Stop using Kyrie as an excuse. Just cause hes being an idiot doesn't mean Harden can be too.

Harden owes us nothing? We gave up a ton of assets for him! He demanded to be here. And then he quit on us.

KD is a few weeks away and has said so on multiple occasions.

If Harden is an MVP he would take the challenge. Instead of running away like a **** coward.

What did KD do when Harden kept hurting his hamstring cause hes a fat piece of ****. He played without him with no complaints.

If you really cared about the Nets you wouldn't excuse someone **** on this franchise like this.

Hes worse than Deron Williams.

James Harden gave more to the Nets in half a season then Deron Williams did for several years.

And to that end, Kyrie makes Deron Williams look like a saint. Deron fell off, but at least he made himself available for work. He didnt just randomly disappear on game nights, or take games off to attend parties. If he was healthy, he played. Kyrie isn't even willing to do the bare minimum to make himself available, and he has said in public he feels no remorse about it, because he's a narcissistic, deluded sociopath.

KD has given no time table for his return. We don't even know if he will be ready to play in the first game after ASB. I'm not excusing the way Harden just flat out quit, but I do not blame him for wanting to get away from here and Kyrie. The guy wanted to win without having to play 40 minutes a night and play with guys that are all in. You know who is all in on winning right now? Joel Embiid. If I had a choice to play with an MVP level player like Embiid on a good team with excellent roleplayers and an experienced head coach or play with a hobbled Kevin Durant and an absolute moron like Kyrie Irving who isn't even available for most of the team's games, I would run, not walk, over to the 76ers.

Also, don't think that KD's role in protecting Kyrie hasn't played a part into why Harden bailed.

Again...I don't agree with how he just flat out quit in the Kings game, but I do not find anything wrong with him wanting out.

You are utterly delusional thinking that a player of Harden's caliber should choose to stick it out in a clearly losing situation. Kyrie threw this team into chaos from September onward, and Joe being out for the season made things even worse. KD's injury was probably what made Harden realize its not worth it. And he's right. I wouldn't want to go to war with a clown like Kyrie. He sabotaged our season.

Don't question my fandom. If I didn't love the Nets I would have given up on this franchise years ago, and yet I still am in it despite knowing that they are going to disappoint me again and again.

[MrDollarBills]

Harden owes you nothing, just how you think that Kyrie doesn't owe you to get vaccinated.

Durant is out with a knee ligament injury. There is no definite date for his return. We don't know what shape he will be in when he comes back.

Our season is over.

But go on.

Stop using Kyrie as an excuse. Just cause hes being an idiot doesn't mean Harden can be too.

Harden owes us nothing? We gave up a ton of assets for him! He demanded to be here. And then he quit on us.

KD is a few weeks away and has said so on multiple occasions.

If Harden is an MVP he would take the challenge. Instead of running away like a **** coward.

What did KD do when Harden kept hurting his hamstring cause hes a fat piece of ****. He played without him with no complaints.

If you really cared about the Nets you wouldn't excuse someone **** on this franchise like this.

Hes worse than Deron Williams.

Take the challenge? Nah, exactly why he wanted out. He did this in Houston and last year here and got SICK of it. I Like how D Wade put it "He has a different level of urgency than Kyrie & KD." I am sure he would be more motivated if Kyrie can play full time or Marks could pull some trades like Eric Gordan for Joe before the trade deadline etc. That way, at least he can see some hope.

Honestly, I would be running away if I have a lunatic teammate or coworker. Harden should not have done it this way or could have been more patient, but I applaud him for standing up and say "**** it, I am out of here" while the rest including KD continue to baby Kyrie. No joke. Kyrie has completely gone INSANE since Kobe passed away. Some of the **** that he said these days are just SMH.

Exactly. This should have been a wake up call for Durant. Kyrie is going to be the downfall of this team.

[NetsWorld]

Stop using Kyrie as an excuse. Just cause hes being an idiot doesn't mean Harden can be too.

Harden owes us nothing? We gave up a ton of assets for him! He demanded to be here. And then he quit on us.

KD is a few weeks away and has said so on multiple occasions.

If Harden is an MVP he would take the challenge. Instead of running away like a **** coward.

What did KD do when Harden kept hurting his hamstring cause hes a fat piece of ****. He played without him with no complaints.

If you really cared about the Nets you wouldn't excuse someone **** on this franchise like this.

Hes worse than Deron Williams.

Take the challenge? Nah, exactly why he wanted out. He did this in Houston and last year here and got SICK of it. I Like how D Wade put it "He has a different level of urgency than Kyrie & KD." I am sure he would be more motivated if Kyrie can play full time or Marks could pull some trades like Eric Gordan for Joe before the trade deadline etc. That way, at least he can see some hope.

Honestly, I would be running away if I have a lunatic teammate or coworker. Harden should not have done it this way or could have been more patient, but I applaud him for standing up and say "**** it, I am out of here" while the rest including KD continue to baby Kyrie. No joke. Kyrie has completely gone INSANE since Kobe passed away. Some of the **** that he said these days are just SMH.

Exactly. This should have been a wake up call for Durant. Kyrie is going to be the downfall of this team.

If the Nets were smart, they would cut him or trade him forcefully and not care what KD says. If Kyrie is the reason they lose the PO, you best believe Kyrie is gone in the off season. If you heard Kyrie in the PG after the Heat game, he said this problem doesn’t exist anywhere else. He may actually be open to leaving eventually and I wouldn’t mind it. I’m tired of everything hinging on a mandate. It’s pathetic. Kyrie constantly lies and contradicts himself, he told Marks he was getting the jab and backed out making the team look like fools and now we are all on pins and needles in hopes that the mandate gets lifted. If the mandate gets lifted, I think to further prove his point, he will voluntarily get vaccinated. Yes, after the mandate is gone. That will only further his drama Queen stance.

[Hello Brooklyn]

I'm done arguing with you guys about this BS.

Its beyond stupid that you guys think Kyrie being stupid justifies Harden openly quitting on us when we have Kevin Durant on the roster.

After demanding to be here, forcing us to give up our assets, and being out of shape all season.

Hes is a bum straight and simple. The worst thing that ever happened to the Nets. And its not close.

I hope he never wins anything again in his life.

If this guy was on the Knicks or Lakers they would be tearing him to shreds.

Yet you guys are just ok with him disrespecting our franchise cause he had a few weeks without the best player in the world carrying him.
LMAO

[Prokorov]

Man this thread escalated quickly.

Forget Harden, he is gone and we are probably better off for it. Our chances of a title were best with the big 3 but luck hasnt been on our side. Like KD said, we now have guys who want to be here. Lets move forward with that.

This game gave me the optimism that the wizards game sucked out. they were home, full strength and playing well. We had Kyrie and the JV squad and erased a 20 point lead to make it a 1 possesion game with the ball at the end. Team "battled". It was the fight i expected to see vs. the wiz. And full on display of what Kyrie is capable of vs. good teams/defenses.

Nash forcing it to kyrie with lowry blanketed on him and help ready to blitz him is such a moron move it hurts. Not even getting a shot off their is pathetic. this on the heels of forcing it to kyrie triple teams vs. washington.

you just saw them blitz kyrie like 100 times in a row. yeah he beat one triple team and was on fire but use the attention on him to get someone else a wide open look if they want to over commit.

[MrDollarBills]

Forget Harden, he is gone and we are probably better off for it. Our chances of a title were best with the big 3 but luck hasnt been on our side. Like KD said, we now have guys who want to be here. Lets move forward with that.

Exactly. We are better off now and at full strength we are still a team no one will want to play. ESPECIALLY if we get Joe back.

Nash's coaching blunder aside, that Miami game was probably the best we've played in weeks. If it took Miami a dog fight to beat us with half our team missing, they won't want any parts of us when KD, Ben, Seth, AD, LMA are in the line up.

[MrDollarBills]

Listen, if you told me two years ago we can turn LeVert, Allen, + picks into Simmons, Seth and two first rounders I would be pretty happy.

It may have taken a slight detour, but you can't really say that we haven't made good on the assets used in between trading those pieces and where we are now. If Ben is in a good head space this team can be pretty dangerous.

[TheNetsFan]

You ever had an ex that tried to mess with you even after y’all broke up? That’s kinda what happened to the Nets after James Harden didn’t show up to Philadelphia to get his physical until mid Saturday afternoon. By the time it was done, the Nets vs. Heat game had already started so Andre Drummond and Seth Curry were ineligible to play.

https://www.netsdaily.com/2022/2/14/22930898/brooklyn-nets-sacramento-kings-nba-preview-valentine-day-domantas-sabonis-andre-drummond-fox

[Prokorov]

Listen, if you told me two years ago we can turn LeVert, Allen, + picks into Simmons, Seth and two first rounders I would be pretty happy.

It may have taken a slight detour, but you can't really say that we haven't made good on the assets used in between trading those pieces and where we are now. If Ben is in a good head space this team can be pretty dangerous.

I said this to my sister (lives in MD, a sixers fan).... when you boil it down it is the equivolent to

Ben, Curry, Drummond

for

Levert, Allen (3 month rental), 2 1sts, 3 swaps

thats a great trade. We got Ben for the pick package that Milwaukee paid for Jrue and swapped Curry/drummond for Levert/Allen rental.

Thats an outstanding trade. Even better when you factor the swaps are with houston not philly.

[Prokorov]

How about we just agree kyrie and harden are both clowns?

The issue is that some Nets fans and possibly those within the organization, believed that the problems with the team started and ended with Harden, which is complete BS.

The reality is that Kyrie is the problem, and it won't end until Kyrie is gone. Throwing Harden under the bus then trading him, lifting vaccine mandates are just band aids to cover up the real issue which is that Kyrie is a lunatic and the Nets cannot stand up to him because of injuries and his ties to KD.

Dude I remember his last year with us. It was my birthday in January and I heard the first rumblings that he wanted out and wanted to go to New York and I felt sick. By the time the playoffs were done I would have driven him to the airport myself. Everyone has a point where they are just done with the Kyrie BS. Some people can handle more than others but the dude wears down everyone eventually.

Pre-pamdemic kyrie was a non issue. please dont compare him to the trash-hole in boston that has imploded since he left. Last year he had an elite season, curb stomped boston (literally and figuratively) and was on his way to helping lead us to a title.

Kyrie's big issue is durability. period.

The pandemic is not some normal circumstance. you can knock him on the vaccine stuff but it took a once in 100 years pandemic for him to become an issue here. and even then, he has handled everything with the team extremely well, and players his heart out in games he has been available.

[MrDollarBills]

Listen, if you told me two years ago we can turn LeVert, Allen, + picks into Simmons, Seth and two first rounders I would be pretty happy.

It may have taken a slight detour, but you can't really say that we haven't made good on the assets used in between trading those pieces and where we are now. If Ben is in a good head space this team can be pretty dangerous.

I said this to my sister (lives in MD, a sixers fan).... when you boil it down it is the equivolent to

Ben, Curry, Drummond

for

Levert, Allen (3 month rental), 2 1sts, 3 swaps

thats a great trade. We got Ben for the pick package that Milwaukee paid for Jrue and swapped Curry/drummond for Levert/Allen rental.

Thats an outstanding trade. Even better when you factor the swaps are with houston not philly.

And with our window to compete now open wider, those pick swaps most likely will never convey.

Marks did a great job of making a bad situation work to our favor.

[Prokorov]

Listen, if you told me two years ago we can turn LeVert, Allen, + picks into Simmons, Seth and two first rounders I would be pretty happy.

It may have taken a slight detour, but you can't really say that we haven't made good on the assets used in between trading those pieces and where we are now. If Ben is in a good head space this team can be pretty dangerous.

I said this to my sister (lives in MD, a sixers fan).... when you boil it down it is the equivolent to

Ben, Curry, Drummond

for

Levert, Allen (3 month rental), 2 1sts, 3 swaps

thats a great trade. We got Ben for the pick package that Milwaukee paid for Jrue and swapped Curry/drummond for Levert/Allen rental.

Thats an outstanding trade. Even better when you factor the swaps are with houston not philly.

And with our window to compete now open wider, those pick swaps most likely will never convey.

Marks did a great job of making a bad situation work to our favor.

And if they do convery, the swap will be minor. like swapping #18 for #22. it wont be a boston thing handing over top 3 picks for picks in the 20s

[3pt_chucker]

I'm done arguing with you guys about this BS.

Its beyond stupid that you guys think Kyrie being stupid justifies Harden openly quitting on us when we have Kevin Durant on the roster.

After demanding to be here, forcing us to give up our assets, and being out of shape all season.

Hes is a bum straight and simple. The worst thing that ever happened to the Nets. And its not close.

I hope he never wins anything again in his life.

If this guy was on the Knicks or Lakers they would be tearing him to shreds.

Yet you guys are just ok with him disrespecting our franchise cause he had a few weeks without the best player in the world carrying him.
LMAO

I agree with this 100%

I blame Kyrie for starting all this mess with his vaccine stance but at the same time Harden is trash for wanting out as soon as things truly get hard. Says all you need to know about his character. I don't want someone with a quitter/soft mentality as a leader on the team. Those people tend to shrink in big moments.

Now we have a clear hierarchy on the team which revolves around KD. One clear voice in the locker room with a bunch of vets following his lead. Much better than James who was clearly only willing to lead when things are good/new &f fresh but had ulterior feelings from jump.

I don't wish bad on people but I'm not gonna feel any sympathy if things go south in Philly.

[Hello Brooklyn]

Man this thread escalated quickly.

Forget Harden, he is gone and we are probably better off for it. Our chances of a title were best with the big 3 but luck hasnt been on our side. Like KD said, we now have guys who want to be here. Lets move forward with that.

This game gave me the optimism that the wizards game sucked out. they were home, full strength and playing well. We had Kyrie and the JV squad and erased a 20 point lead to make it a 1 possesion game with the ball at the end. Team "battled". It was the fight i expected to see vs. the wiz. And full on display of what Kyrie is capable of vs. good teams/defenses.

Nash forcing it to kyrie with lowry blanketed on him and help ready to blitz him is such a moron move it hurts. Not even getting a shot off their is pathetic. this on the heels of forcing it to kyrie triple teams vs. washington.

you just saw them blitz kyrie like 100 times in a row. yeah he beat one triple team and was on fire but use the attention on him to get someone else a wide open look if they want to over commit.

Spolestra is a very good coach. Feels like when we play a good coach there is almost no chance to win.

Heat knew they simply had to get the ball out of Kyries hands. So they sent 3 defenders his way.

Nash never had any alternative plan that could be executed to generate any form of offense.

I mean we literally had Kyrie dribbling through the whole **** team to get points.

[ajones9219]

The issue is that some Nets fans and possibly those within the organization, believed that the problems with the team started and ended with Harden, which is complete BS.

The reality is that Kyrie is the problem, and it won't end until Kyrie is gone. Throwing Harden under the bus then trading him, lifting vaccine mandates are just band aids to cover up the real issue which is that Kyrie is a lunatic and the Nets cannot stand up to him because of injuries and his ties to KD.

Dude I remember his last year with us. It was my birthday in January and I heard the first rumblings that he wanted out and wanted to go to New York and I felt sick. By the time the playoffs were done I would have driven him to the airport myself. Everyone has a point where they are just done with the Kyrie BS. Some people can handle more than others but the dude wears down everyone eventually.

Pre-pamdemic kyrie was a non issue. please dont compare him to the trash-hole in boston that has imploded since he left. Last year he had an elite season, curb stomped boston (literally and figuratively) and was on his way to helping lead us to a title.

Kyrie's big issue is durability. period.

The pandemic is not some normal circumstance. you can knock him on the vaccine stuff but it took a once in 100 years pandemic for him to become an issue here. and even then, he has handled everything with the team extremely well, and players his heart out in games he has been available.

Trash-hole? lol ok. Stay classy Prok. Kyrie has been an issue since he was in Cleveland and if you don't want to believe that then that is your choice. Also congrats to Kyrie for stomping the Celtics last year without 3 of their top 4 players playing.

[Prokorov]

Dude I remember his last year with us. It was my birthday in January and I heard the first rumblings that he wanted out and wanted to go to New York and I felt sick. By the time the playoffs were done I would have driven him to the airport myself. Everyone has a point where they are just done with the Kyrie BS. Some people can handle more than others but the dude wears down everyone eventually.

Pre-pamdemic kyrie was a non issue. please dont compare him to the trash-hole in boston that has imploded since he left. Last year he had an elite season, curb stomped boston (literally and figuratively) and was on his way to helping lead us to a title.

Kyrie's big issue is durability. period.

The pandemic is not some normal circumstance. you can knock him on the vaccine stuff but it took a once in 100 years pandemic for him to become an issue here. and even then, he has handled everything with the team extremely well, and players his heart out in games he has been available.

Trash-hole? lol ok. Stay classy Prok. Kyrie has been an issue since he was in Cleveland and if you don't want to believe that then that is your choice. Also congrats to Kyrie for stomping the Celtics last year without 3 of their top 4 players playing.

I want the problem Kyrie was for cleveland... the Kyrie that willed cleveland to a win over a 73 win GSW team. Boston presdient/GM/coach/former players/current players have all said kyrie wasnt the problem in boston.

only racist boston fans thing that. well maybe some of the non-racist ones too.

[ajones9219]

Pre-pamdemic kyrie was a non issue. please dont compare him to the trash-hole in boston that has imploded since he left. Last year he had an elite season, curb stomped boston (literally and figuratively) and was on his way to helping lead us to a title.

Kyrie's big issue is durability. period.

The pandemic is not some normal circumstance. you can knock him on the vaccine stuff but it took a once in 100 years pandemic for him to become an issue here. and even then, he has handled everything with the team extremely well, and players his heart out in games he has been available.

Trash-hole? lol ok. Stay classy Prok. Kyrie has been an issue since he was in Cleveland and if you don't want to believe that then that is your choice. Also congrats to Kyrie for stomping the Celtics last year without 3 of their top 4 players playing.

I want the problem Kyrie was for cleveland... the Kyrie that willed cleveland to a win over a 73 win GSW team. Boston presdient/GM/coach/former players/current players have all said kyrie wasnt the problem in boston.

only racist boston fans thing that. well maybe some of the non-racist ones too.

The Celtics guys were just top classy to talk **** on a former teammate.

Dude if you want to be the only person who still believes kyrie hasn't been a problem for every team he has been on then at this point i can't help you. Believe whatever you want but you're just deluding yourself.

[Prokorov]

Trash-hole? lol ok. Stay classy Prok. Kyrie has been an issue since he was in Cleveland and if you don't want to believe that then that is your choice. Also congrats to Kyrie for stomping the Celtics last year without 3 of their top 4 players playing.

I want the problem Kyrie was for cleveland... the Kyrie that willed cleveland to a win over a 73 win GSW team. Boston presdient/GM/coach/former players/current players have all said kyrie wasnt the problem in boston.

only racist boston fans thing that. well maybe some of the non-racist ones too.

The Celtics guys were just top classy to talk **** on a former teammate.

Dude if you want to be the only person who still believes kyrie hasn't been a problem for every team he has been on then at this point i can't help you. Believe whatever you want but you're just deluding yourself.

Right. super classy... so classy they felt the need to carry the charade by vacationing with him (Tatum, smart), working out with him in the offseason (Tatum, yubaselle), having a joint business venture with him (wnnamaker, smart) and making apoint to give him PDA and dapp before and after every game.

Also, these guys didnt just give some canned cliche awsner, they bent over backwards to say good things about him. and its not just celtics, its the NBA fraternity. they love the guy. mostly because of his generosity but also because he takes bullets for the players in the media and fights fights alot of them want to but cant afford. its why he was voted VP of the players union. He also looks for opportunities. Gordon talked about Kyrie helping him get into Hollwyood and getting him a big role on uncle drew.

Look you can hate him and call him a cancer all you want but he was a huge part of one of the biggest championship wins of our lifetime, has been in the playoffs everywhere he has been, and its either the biggest cover up ever or is universally liked by players.

I mean, players even backed him when he called out boston for being racist... including current celtics. Publically backing a guy when he just called your fans racists goes beyond "being classy"

you guys are the ones in denial