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[MrDollarBills]

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Man, idk how Kyrie was before the Nets but he just comes across as humble and genuine. Hard not to like.

Lots of good tidbits in there:

1) He tried coming back earlier and had a setback. This prob happened when the nets were still calling him day to day.

2) The cortisone shots were just to help him heal faster and feel better doing the required.

3) When he comes back he might take awhile to get back to elite. He mentioned he'll have to adjust his finishing around the rim and attack left more than he would usually do.

4) He said he will have to keep up the shoulder maintenance for the rest of the season and maybe his career?! So this shoulder thing can def happen again. Not freaked out about it tho

Side note: Moving to Nets has made him closer to the family and that something he has had to handle with, the good and the bad. Not the first time he has mentioned how important being near family was.

Makes you think about KAT down the line

The guy wanted to be here, be in this area. Add that with the fact that the Nets are a player friendly culture that puts their well being over everything else, it's probably hard not to be happy here. KD hasn't played a game for us yet and he's out there repping the team on social media hard.

[DarkXaero]

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Man, idk how Kyrie was before the Nets but he just comes across as humble and genuine. Hard not to like.

Lots of good tidbits in there:

1) He tried coming back earlier and had a setback. This prob happened when the nets were still calling him day to day.

2) The cortisone shots were just to help him heal faster and feel better doing the required.

3) When he comes back he might take awhile to get back to elite. He mentioned he'll have to adjust his finishing around the rim and attack left more than he would usually do.

4) He said he will have to keep up the shoulder maintenance for the rest of the season and maybe his career?! So this shoulder thing can def happen again. Not freaked out about it tho

Side note: Moving to Nets has made him closer to the family and that something he has had to handle with, the good and the bad. Not the first time he has mentioned how important being near family was.

Makes you think about KAT down the line

I agree, that was a great video to watch. He was very positive, came across as very likeable, well spoken dude, it's honestly hard to understand the league wide vitriol for him.

[NyCeEvO]

3) When he comes back he might take awhile to get back to elite. He mentioned he'll have to adjust his finishing around the rim and attack left more than he would usually do.

4) He said he will have to keep up the shoulder maintenance for the rest of the season and maybe his career?! So this shoulder thing can def happen again. Not freaked out about it tho

I’d much rather have a more lower scoring, higher assist version of Kyrie than the 28+ppg/8ast version, especially during the regular season. The former would last longer in the league because he’s not always trying to put on a show and risk his body on his many drives to the basket. His time in Boston already proved to me that he evolved from just being an elite scorer and showman to an actual PG who can consistently create looks for his teammates.

I don’t want Kyrie to look to score all of the time. I’d much rather have him be more judicious with his takeover moments than try to will us to wins whenever we suck without him on the court. The beauty of this is that despite him playing more conservative during the regular season, we all know that he has the ability to turn it up when it truly counts (i.e. the postseason). I’d much rather have him really go to work in April–June rather than October–June.

Before Kyrie went down, I had already made several comments stating that I didn’t like the way he was playing because he was taking too many hits, falling down too much, and trying to do so much to lift us up. Lo and behold, he ended up going down with an injury to his shooting arm/shoulder.

[3pt_chucker]

3) When he comes back he might take awhile to get back to elite. He mentioned he'll have to adjust his finishing around the rim and attack left more than he would usually do.

4) He said he will have to keep up the shoulder maintenance for the rest of the season and maybe his career?! So this shoulder thing can def happen again. Not freaked out about it tho

I’d much rather have a more lower scoring, higher assist version of Kyrie than the 28+ppg/8ast version, especially during the regular season. The former would last longer in the league because he’s not always trying to put on a show and risk his body on his many drives to the basket. His time in Boston already proved to me that he evolved from just being an elite scorer and showman to an actual PG who can consistently create looks for his teammates.

I don’t want Kyrie to look to score all of the time. I’d much rather have him be more judicious with his takeover moments than try to will us to wins whenever we suck without him on the court. The beauty of this is that despite him playing more conservative during the regular season, we all know that he has the ability to turn it up when it truly counts (i.e. the postseason). I’d much rather have him really go to work in April–June rather than October–June.

Before Kyrie went down, I had already made several comments stating that I didn’t like the way he was playing because he was taking too many hits, falling down too much, and trying to do so much to lift us up. Lo and behold, he ended up going down with an injury to his shooting arm/shoulder.

Agreed 100%

Ideally, we get Caris/Dinwidie to do the heavy lifting in the regular season games and have Kyrie be the closer when needed.

Kyrie can def avg 8-10 assists in this team set up.

[Paradise]

3) When he comes back he might take awhile to get back to elite. He mentioned he'll have to adjust his finishing around the rim and attack left more than he would usually do.

4) He said he will have to keep up the shoulder maintenance for the rest of the season and maybe his career?! So this shoulder thing can def happen again. Not freaked out about it tho

I’d much rather have a more lower scoring, higher assist version of Kyrie than the 28+ppg/8ast version, especially during the regular season. The former would last longer in the league because he’s not always trying to put on a show and risk his body on his many drives to the basket. His time in Boston already proved to me that he evolved from just being an elite scorer and showman to an actual PG who can consistently create looks for his teammates.

I don’t want Kyrie to look to score all of the time. I’d much rather have him be more judicious with his takeover moments than try to will us to wins whenever we suck without him on the court. The beauty of this is that despite him playing more conservative during the regular season, we all know that he has the ability to turn it up when it truly counts (i.e. the postseason). I’d much rather have him really go to work in April–June rather than October–June.

Before Kyrie went down, I had already made several comments stating that I didn’t like the way he was playing because he was taking too many hits, falling down too much, and trying to do so much to lift us up. Lo and behold, he ended up going down with an injury to his shooting arm/shoulder.

Agreed.

Also, this is the first time in his career he can preserve energy with other competent elite guard play around him. We’re only essentially missing a backup guard but we are rock solid with Dinwiddie and Caris being able to play 1-3 positions.

Kyrie should have no issue being able to do less because I know he probably wants to light up Barclays and have consistent historical performances like Westbrook did with OKC but his game and health is cut out for him to do that in the playoff and I think being a 35 minute/28 PPG level guard at this point isn’t even smart for his long term longevity. He should be looking to destroy Kidd’s assist records between this year and definitely next season.

There will be plenty of opportunities for him to drop 40, 50 or 60 in a playoff game if necessary but I’d like to see him try to average 12+ assists with a healthy KD.

[MrDollarBills]

Per Woj Kyrie returns tomorrow vs ATL

[Rich Rane]

Per Woj Kyrie returns tomorrow vs ATL

Can't imagine what his minutes restriction will be like.

[MrDollarBills]

Per Woj Kyrie returns tomorrow vs ATL

Can't imagine what his minutes restriction will be like.

Probably the same as LeVert's. His conditioning should still be decent, maybe not game shape though.

[Rich Rane]

Per Woj Kyrie returns tomorrow vs ATL

Can't imagine what his minutes restriction will be like.

Probably the same as LeVert's. His conditioning should still be decent, maybe not game shape though.

Kenny honestly wouldn't surprise me if it was even shorter.

[Paradise]

He’s back!

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ALRIGHT LET'S GO!

I'm OK with a minutes restriction, and I hope Irving doesn't feel the pressure to "be the alpha" immediately. Our system is plugging along, and he just needs to get his sea legs underneath him, get used to game speed again and get his rhythm.

[Shark]

Can't imagine what his minutes restriction will be like.

Probably the same as LeVert's. His conditioning should still be decent, maybe not game shape though.

Kenny honestly wouldn't surprise me if it was even shorter.

Same. Considering the depth we'll have once Kyrie is back I wouldn't think Kenny's going to think its necessary to risk too much running him for a ton of minutes early on. Just hope he staggers his minutes than he did LeVert's before yesterday's game.

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[Prokorov]

I just put to bed the nonsense that teams have been better without Kyrie, feel free to pile on:
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regular season head to head has always been irrelevant. whether its the nets or anyone else. even moreso today where most teams are live or die by the three.

If kyrie was irrelevant he wouldnt have a million threads on the GB, been top 5 in fan voting for the ASG despite barely playing, drastically increased nets attendance, have an enormous twitter/IG following, and be talked above by players, reporters, fans, etc.

you're right i should clarify. irrelevant on the court, specifically to his team''s success

Of course he is relevant on the court. The idea teams are better without Kyrie is such repeated nonsense. in 6 of his 8 seasons coming into this year Kyrie's teams have had better records when he plays vs. when he doesn't. The 2 years the team was worse with him include the year he came back from surgery (they won the title that year and he was a big part of upsetting the warriors) and last year with Boston which is well noted.

We dont know how it will shake out this year. right now they are worse with him but its close (2 - 3 games better without him)

Early Cavs Days:

11-12: Cavs better record with Kyrie than without him
12-13: Cavs better record with Kyrie than without him
13-14: Cavs better record with Kyrie than without him

Lebron Era Cavs:
14-15: Cavs better record with Kyrie than without him
15-16: Cavs WORSE record with Kyrie than without him (Came back from knee injury)
16-17: Cavs better record with Kyrie than without him

Celtics Seasons:
17-18: celtics better record with Kyrie than without him
18-19: celtics WORSE record with Kyrie than without him

Nets Season:
19-20: To this point, WORSE record with Kyrie (.421 with .484 without him)

The idea that Kyrie is irrelevant on the court is simply idiotic. His teams have consistently been better with him on the floor and Lebrons only Cleveand title in 4 years came with Kyrie (25/5/3 on 48/44/88). He hit the biggest shot of that finals and in the 4 finals wins he was: +24, +20, +25, and +10.

So if you want to call Kyrie a weirdo, blame him for last year in boston, and in general hate on him fine. But lets drop this nonsense he is irrelvant or that his teams have been better without him. Dude is a difference maker and a ceiling raiser. I dont know what says that more than being a +35 in an NBA finals vs. a 73 win team, Dropping 90 points in the final 3 wins and hitting the biggest shot in cleveland history.

For reference, coming into this season The hornets were better with Kemba in 3 of the 5 seasons he missed time and so far this season they are better without him.

i guess Kemba is irrelevant on the court

[Paradise]

Kyrie is the new VP of The NBPA.

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[MrDollarBills]

Kyrie is the new VP of The NBPA.

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bUt NoBoDy LiKeS kYriE!!

[gigantes]

What the hell is Kendrick Perkins problem, anyway?

I can't remember a player just relentlessly badmouthing another player publicly every chance he gets like this. Especially when he spent such little time on the same team. I.e., dude only played a single season with Kyrie, '14-15, in which Perkins only played in parts of 17 games and was pretty much a non-factor.

Usually the way an adult handles this stuff is sooner or later to admit you didn't know the other person very well, and that circumstances might not have been the best when you were together. Whatever, you move on and try to let go of hard feelings, even if only for yourself. Noooot Kendrick Perkins.

*Sheesh*

[MrDollarBills]

What the hell is Kendrick Perkins problem, anyway?

I can't remember a player just relentlessly badmouthing another player publicly every chance he gets like this. Especially when he spent such little time on the same team. I.e., dude only played a single season with Kyrie, '14-15, in which Perkins only played in parts of 17 games and was pretty much a non-factor.

Usually the way an adult handles this stuff is sooner or later to admit you didn't know the other person very well, and that circumstances might not have been the best when you were together. Whatever, you move on and try to let go of hard feelings, even if only for yourself. Noooot Kendrick Perkins.

*Sheesh*

Perk is shucking and jiving to keep himself on TV as a hot take artist. Matt Barnes already called him out for his bull **** and even talked to him directly about it and yet Perk continues to act like a fool.

Kyrie is best served not even responding to this. He was voted in as VP by his peers and the list of players who also got voted in as NBAPA VPs, like Garrett Temple and Andre Igoudala, are highly respected guys around the league, so that speaks more about who Kyrie is to the players than it does to Perk who is trying to stay relevant.

It's getting tiresome watching Kyrie get torn down like this. These people are obsessed with him.

[gigantes]

Guess I'll just enjoy their cognitive dissonance, then.

Every little thing that happens with Kyrie must be filtered through their idee fixe that he's a "bad teammate" or a "bad leader." No matter how positive the current event at hand, somehow they must find a way to interpret it cynically. It really is amazing.

[DarkXaero]

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