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GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23

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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#81 » by bwgood77 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 4:45 am

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Eatgreenz wrote:The craziest part we dont even have to make any major trades. If we can get Philly ben, ben with his elite athleticism back. We can compete with any team in the east next year.


I'm not ready to give up on Simmons either.

Everyone is acting like he just didn't have a back injury. Lets give him more time to recover before we decide hes cooked.


I agree and it's not like there are many options with him. I think confidence is a big thing with him. I think that impacted Bridges a bit too. I think being around guys like you have now, it will help. Bridges makes everything fun and the team will come to love to play together. Probably been a while since you've had that.

Seems like Bridges started a lot of this pregame type stuff...had a lot of handshakes with everyone. KD doesn't look too excited.

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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#82 » by CalamityX12 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 4:46 am

I cant even bet on thd nets to lose! Lol
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#83 » by Eatgreenz » Sat Mar 4, 2023 4:58 am

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Eatgreenz wrote:The craziest part we dont even have to make any major trades. If we can get Philly ben, ben with his elite athleticism back. We can compete with any team in the east next year.


I'm not ready to give up on Simmons either.

Everyone is acting like he just didn't have a back injury. Lets give him more time to recover before we decide hes cooked.

100% Bro when you read up on the injury its a 12-18 month recovery for 100%. He would be like 10-11 months right now. Brook lopez looked cooked coming back from a back injury untill a yr later he looked like himself. Now If by pre season game 1 his not running the floor like cheetah and 1,2 step punching dunks threw the rim. Then we officially know his washed and its time to get him outta here
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#84 » by MGrand15 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 4:58 am

This might be our first Friday night win :lol:

I tuned back in after half time. They played really really hard. Just out hustled the Celtics who clearly relaxed after the big lead.

Bridges is really good man. His midrange game separates him from a regular role player. His release point is so high and so smooth off the dribble. It's a legit weapon. I think today was one of the first times I saw him confidently pull up for 3 instead of catch and shoot. Thats a big step.

I hate to be negative after a win like this but man, i hate the spirit of the team right now. You come back to win after being down 28 and the team was so chill. It looked like we lost by 8 or something. No one was hype. It's so weird to watch. The team played hard though so i cant knock that.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#85 » by NetsJets » Sat Mar 4, 2023 5:07 am

Best win of the season
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#86 » by Marvin Martian » Sat Mar 4, 2023 5:10 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:There is no reason to fast forward the timeline on this team.

26 is still young. In 4 years Bridges will be 30. Keep developing the youth. See if Simmons can come back and be himself next year.

No need to panic and trade all our picks. Please!

What youth? Aside from Clax who is worth developing? Thomas is a B- level prospect. I would be shocked if he is a rotation player in 4 years.

Simmons is cooked. I don't know what more proof you guys need. His numbers have dropped every single year since his rookie season. There is nothing wrong with him. This is who he is. The longer he stays here, the worse the contract will get.

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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#87 » by NetsJets » Sat Mar 4, 2023 5:15 am

That blitzing didn’t work on the Nets this time. Unlike KD, Bridges and Dinwiddie can pass out of the double team without turning the ball over.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#88 » by Eatgreenz » Sat Mar 4, 2023 5:44 am

NetsJets wrote:That blitzing didn’t work on the Nets this time. Unlike KD, Bridges and Dinwiddie can pass out of the double team without turning the ball over.

Crazy difference. Those traps didnt effect us at all the ball was getting moved with the quickness and easy shot attempt were made
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#89 » by Papi_swav » Sat Mar 4, 2023 7:30 am

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Hello Brooklyn wrote:There is no reason to fast forward the timeline on this team.

26 is still young. In 4 years Bridges will be 30. Keep developing the youth. See if Simmons can come back and be himself next year.

No need to panic and trade all our picks. Please!

What youth? Aside from Clax who is worth developing? Thomas is a B- level prospect. I would be shocked if he is a rotation player in 4 years.

Simmons is cooked. I don't know what more proof you guys need. His numbers have dropped every single year since his rookie season. There is nothing wrong with him. This is who he is. The longer he stays here, the worse the contract will get.

The worse move the Nets can make is no moves due to PTSD.

We'll have 2 picks in this draft and our core of Cam J, Bridges and Claxton can still get better. Bro we are not getting rid of Simmons, what don't u understand that NO team out there wants him? We can't just shove him down anybody throat, it's not going to happen. And It won't be smart to use 2 draft picks just to get rid of him and his contract. Just play him next year while he's here and hope he can up his value then we trade him at the trade deadline or next year IF a team is interested and that's a big if. He still has a skill set that we can use right now, we need a ball handler, passer and we can always use another defender.

The team is still young, 26 years old is still young, when Bridges turn 32 or even 30 then you start to wonder. But until now we need to have patience, we cannot rush the process. I like our little core we have now, if we get a star guard then we'll be in great shape but we need the RIGHT star guard. Not Lavine, not Dame or Beal, older guys that's already injury prone and is ready to fall off the cliff at any moment and not to mention they'll definitely miss 20 plus games for injury or load management. That is not the smart thing to do. The game is getting younger and faster. Look at how the league caught up with KD and Lebron already. Just draft well and develop until a real YOUNG star player in their primes asks out.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#90 » by Minnamaker » Sat Mar 4, 2023 10:06 am

What a great win. Please keep that momentum and keep playing defense on sunday. After the first quarter we looked much better. It helped though that Boston obviously thought it was over when we started to play.

Bridges looks really good. It's to early to tell, but that midrange game is what he needs to be a first or second option. He looks really comfortable taking them so far.

And please give dinwiddie some love for this game. I think he played a great game, especially in the 4th. He was much quicker to start plays. He was the only guy really attacking the basket, but this time he almost always made the right play. He pressured the defense, but he also kicked the ball out and found the open man. I don't remember a fourth quarter TO, too. He got constantly double teamed, but always found the open guy. He even played some defense. Hopefully he can build on this performance. If he stays unselfish I think he deserves those big minutes.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#91 » by sashaturiaf » Sat Mar 4, 2023 11:53 am

I still hate the trades but Mikal Bridges has been extremely impressive.

I don't think he's the right fit for us since we're too far away from a title but he's certainly doing his trade value no harm at all. The 4 touted first rounders as a price for Mikal is not all hot air after all, a team with a superstar that needs a good enough #2 to get over the hump could do worse than to pay that ala the Holiday trade to Milwaukee. Is he a better #2 in Dallas than Kyrie? I think so given his 2 way play, the durability and the intangibles. If Kyrie flakes out in Dallas again, would they pay 4 unprotected firsts to keep Luka onboard? Think they would
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#92 » by TheNetsFan » Sat Mar 4, 2023 1:59 pm

sashaturiaf wrote:I still hate the trades but Mikal Bridges has been extremely impressive.

I don't think he's the right fit for us since we're too far away from a title but he's certainly doing his trade value no harm at all. The 4 touted first rounders as a price for Mikal is not all hot air after all, a team with a superstar that needs a good enough #2 to get over the hump could do worse than to pay that ala the Holiday trade to Milwaukee. Is he a better #2 in Dallas than Kyrie? I think so given his 2 way play, the durability and the intangibles. If Kyrie flakes out in Dallas again, would they pay 4 unprotected firsts to keep Luka onboard? Think they would

Or you retain your really good #2 on a value contract, and you take a couple stabs at bringing a number 1 in '24 and '25 free agency.

I think Bridges has the potential to be a high level Robin in the mold of healthy Middleton. Jrue has obviously surpassed Middleton now, but Middleton was the clear #2, and at times the offensive alpha, when the Bucks won the title.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#93 » by Tha King » Sat Mar 4, 2023 2:16 pm

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Eatgreenz wrote:The craziest part we dont even have to make any major trades. If we can get Philly ben, ben with his elite athleticism back. We can compete with any team in the east next year.

More continuity, 'solid starter' Ben Simmons, and further growth from Claxton is far better than using draft picks and more for empty calories stars like LaVine and Beal.


:lol: If Lavine and Beal are empty calories then Simmons is poison. Dude is garbage. PHI specifically built their team around him
and he was still terrible. You are overestimating this team. In order for this team to be taken seriously Simmons needs to be better than he ever was

Also Bridges is not a prospect. He is 26 entering his prime. He needs help now. Those draft picks will not fit the timeline. And as long he is here, the Nets cannot fully tank.

I know the Simmons trade has been an absolute disaster so far but he was never terrible in Philly and was always a better player than LaVine and mostly Beal.

I am not overestimating this the team, I just think the Celtics, Bucks, and soon Cavs will be well clear of any realistic team you could put together. So would prefer not rushing and using draft picks (and more) on players like Beal and LaVine that are not making this team all that much better imo

With LaVine though I'd say it would depend on if there is a 'buy low' situation. Like if you can get him for something around Din, Cam Thomas, and the Suns 2023 pick I'd do that.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#94 » by TheNetsFan » Sat Mar 4, 2023 2:17 pm

Amazing that we break the losing streak vs the Celtics in the first game post KD/Kyrie trade.
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Post#95 » by Sharcm1 » Sat Mar 4, 2023 2:36 pm

JV needs to change up the starting five. It’s just not working. I know they came back in this game but they were down in the game because they started the game shooting 11 percent from the field and not being able to stop the Celtics. It’s happening over and over again. I’m sorry it’s time for a change. I would out O’Neal in the lineup over Finney-smith.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#96 » by Eatgreenz » Sat Mar 4, 2023 2:39 pm

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Eatgreenz wrote:The craziest part we dont even have to make any major trades. If we can get Philly ben, ben with his elite athleticism back. We can compete with any team in the east next year.

More continuity, 'solid starter' Ben Simmons, and further growth from Claxton is far better than using draft picks and more for empty calories stars like LaVine and Beal.


:lol: If Lavine and Beal are empty calories then Simmons is poison. Dude is garbage. PHI specifically built their team around him
and he was still terrible. You are overestimating this team. In order for this team to be taken seriously Simmons needs to be better than he ever was

Also Bridges is not a prospect. He is 26 entering his prime. He needs help now. Those draft picks will not fit the timeline. And as long he is here, the Nets cannot fully tank.

Philly never built a team around Ben, it was always a weird fit for his skill set. The team we have now is perfect for philly Ben he would excell here. Ben has been a winning player for his whole NBA career unlike lavine n Beal. Those 2 arent floor raisers like a healthy Ben
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#97 » by NetsJets » Sat Mar 4, 2023 2:50 pm

That Ben is gone forever. Time to move on. He’s a sunk cost at this point. All he wants to do is wear nice clothes on the sideline, and enjoy the lifestyle basketball provides him, without actually wanting to play basketball.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#98 » by Karate Diop » Sat Mar 4, 2023 2:50 pm

Sharcm1 wrote:JV needs to change up the starting five. It’s just not working. I know they came back in this game but they were down in the game because they started the game shooting 11 percent from the field and not being able to stop the Celtics. It’s happening over and over again. I’m sorry it’s time for a change. I would out O’Neal in the lineup over Finney-smith.


I was thinking the same thing, if you want to play to win now, then one way or another Royce needs to start. These slow starts can't continue...
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#99 » by Tha King » Sat Mar 4, 2023 3:38 pm

Karate Diop wrote:
Sharcm1 wrote:JV needs to change up the starting five. It’s just not working. I know they came back in this game but they were down in the game because they started the game shooting 11 percent from the field and not being able to stop the Celtics. It’s happening over and over again. I’m sorry it’s time for a change. I would out O’Neal in the lineup over Finney-smith.


I was thinking the same thing, if you want to play to win now, then one way or another Royce needs to start. These slow starts can't continue...

the slow starts have all been on the road so maybe it's a continuity thing.

one reason I like Royce off the bench is he can handle and playmake a little which the bench needs w/o Simmons. He's still playing starter minutes as well.
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Re: GT: Nets @ Boston Celtics- 7:30- 3-3-23 

Post#100 » by Hello Brooklyn » Sat Mar 4, 2023 4:06 pm

NetsJets wrote:That Ben is gone forever. Time to move on. He’s a sunk cost at this point. All he wants to do is wear nice clothes on the sideline, and enjoy the lifestyle basketball provides him, without actually wanting to play basketball.


You guys act like there has never been a player who struggled to come back from injury in the history of the NBA.

It has been less than a year. Give him a little time.

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