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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#581 » by DarkXaero » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:27 pm

therealbig3 wrote:Maybe Joe Harris needs to be part of the deal now? God that would suck.
I would be alright with that. Obviously, it's not ideal, but we're talking about James Harden here. I'm not gonna let Joe Harris stop me from getting Harden.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#582 » by therealbig3 » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:28 pm

DarkXaero wrote:
therealbig3 wrote:Maybe Joe Harris needs to be part of the deal now? God that would suck.
I would be alright with that. Obviously, it's not ideal, but we're talking about James Harden here. I'm not gonna let Joe Harris stop me from getting Harden.


Obvi. I love Joe Harris though.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#583 » by FlipFlopShot » Mon Dec 28, 2020 10:55 pm

Joe Harris can't be traded, right?

If we need to include more than 1 first round pick, I'm out. I'm willing to trade anyone and everyone (other than KD and Kyrie of course) if it means we don't lose any picks.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#584 » by DarkXaero » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:18 pm

FlipFlopShot wrote:Joe Harris can't be traded, right?

If we need to include more than 1 first round pick, I'm out. I'm willing to trade anyone and everyone (other than KD and Kyrie of course) if it means we don't lose any picks.
Of course we need to include more than 1 1st round pick. It's like some of y'all don't realize who the player in question is, and what it takes to get a superstar in this league.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#585 » by FlipFlopShot » Mon Dec 28, 2020 11:48 pm

DarkXaero wrote:
FlipFlopShot wrote:Joe Harris can't be traded, right?

If we need to include more than 1 first round pick, I'm out. I'm willing to trade anyone and everyone (other than KD and Kyrie of course) if it means we don't lose any picks.
Of course we need to include more than 1 1st round pick. It's like some of y'all don't realize who the player in question is, and what it takes to get a superstar in this league.


O, nope. I'm not saying that we don't need a 3rd star nor is this a diss on Harden, but I'm not playing this game again.

If Houston want picks, they can trade for Tyler Hero and 3 picks or Ben Simmons and 3 picks. Houston can finesse our guys for picks if they want, we're just offering something different. They can have a pick if they make this quick.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#586 » by FlipFlopShot » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:58 am

FlipFlopShot wrote:
DarkXaero wrote:
FlipFlopShot wrote:Joe Harris can't be traded, right?

If we need to include more than 1 first round pick, I'm out. I'm willing to trade anyone and everyone (other than KD and Kyrie of course) if it means we don't lose any picks.
Of course we need to include more than 1 1st round pick. It's like some of y'all don't realize who the player in question is, and what it takes to get a superstar in this league.


O, nope. I'm not saying that we don't need a 3rd star nor is this a diss on Harden, but I'm not playing this game again.

If Houston want picks, they can trade for Tyler Hero and 3 picks or Ben Simmons and 3 picks. Houston can finesse our guys for picks if they want, we're just offering something different. They can have a pick if they make this quick.


Nevermind, we got nothing to offer. I'm letting this trade go.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#587 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:16 am

I support a trade now. Not very confident right now after Spencer getting hurt. He was this team's rock, the guy who we could always rely on.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#588 » by CalamityX12 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:19 am

Truth about Spencer being a rock for us...
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#589 » by Hello Brooklyn » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:37 am

The Harden trade will never happen now. Even with Dinwiddie it wasn't happening.

Boston/Philly even Portland have way better offers.

Time to move on.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#590 » by DarkXaero » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:52 am

Harden going off again...
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#591 » by Shark » Tue Dec 29, 2020 3:59 am

Hello Brooklyn wrote:The Harden trade will never happen now. Even with Dinwiddie it wasn't happening.

Boston/Philly even Portland have way better offers.

Time to move on.

Yeah. Not worth it for us if what we'd have to give up is Kyrie or KD as the rumors stated.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#592 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:25 pm

Shark wrote:
Hello Brooklyn wrote:The Harden trade will never happen now. Even with Dinwiddie it wasn't happening.

Boston/Philly even Portland have way better offers.

Time to move on.

Yeah. Not worth it for us if what we'd have to give up is Kyrie or KD as the rumors stated.


I think that's garbage. No one is remotely giving up fair value for Harden.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#593 » by MrDollarBills » Tue Dec 29, 2020 12:25 pm

Hello Brooklyn wrote:The Harden trade will never happen now. Even with Dinwiddie it wasn't happening.

Boston/Philly even Portland have way better offers.

Time to move on.


I think we still need a trade to replace what we lost in Spencer

This is frustrating. Nothing ever goes right
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#594 » by fox2jk » Sat Jan 2, 2021 8:43 pm

Shift your focus from Harden to Beal. Cheaper and a better fit.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#595 » by gigantes » Sun Jan 3, 2021 3:02 am

MrDollarBills wrote:I think we still need a trade to replace what we lost in Spencer

This is frustrating. Nothing ever goes right

Spencer seemed to be doing yeoman's work filling in the blanks on the first unit, but IMO we weren't remotely getting full value from him. I still think his value was moreso insurance upon one of our primaries possibly (or inevitably?) going down.

So now what?

Houston wasn't interested in a package of a Caris, Spencer & ACapela (anyone get that?) plus picks, and now they have more suitors, even as the sand slowly dribbles out of the clock. I think a Harden trade is totally washed away at this point.

Not to mention that it never made much sense for us in the first place, assuming we kept K&K, and tried to awkwardly fit him in around that.

At this point, I'd like to see what Jeff Green's (Dudley-esque?) rant does for the team. I mean we still have some ball-handlers outside of K&K and Caris, and maybe things could work better if we improved our passing mindset?
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#596 » by MrDollarBills » Sun Jan 3, 2021 3:10 am

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MrDollarBills wrote:I think we still need a trade to replace what we lost in Spencer

This is frustrating. Nothing ever goes right

Spencer seemed to be doing yeoman's work filling in the blanks on the first unit, but IMO we weren't remotely getting full value from him. I still think his value was moreso insurance upon one of our primaries possibly (or inevitably?) going down.

So now what?

Houston wasn't interested in a package of a Caris, Spencer & ACapela (anyone get that?) plus picks, and now they have more suitors, even as the sand slowly dribbles out of the clock. I think a Harden trade is totally washed away at this point.

Not to mention that it never made much sense for us in the first place, assuming we kept K&K, and tried to awkwardly fit him in around that.

At this point, I'd like to see what Jeff Green's (Dudley-esque?) rant does for the team. I mean we still have some ball-handlers outside of K&K and Caris, and maybe things could work better if we improved our passing mindset?


Aside from the bricked threes, I think we are seeing too much isolation and not enough offense generated from movement.

Also, the defense needs to be much better. Guys are getting lost. Nash and Co need to clean this up, I'm not amused by what I saw last night.

And yeah I dunno we have next to nothing of value to trade.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#597 » by Brooklyn91 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:38 am

Should we be putting Kyrie on the block? Yay or nay? It’s a bit early but Kyrie has an extensive history of these shenanigans. If he keeps it up I’d be willing to see who bites. Kyrie gonna have to play eventually once pay starts getting docked. Let him get his 28/4/7 on 48/41/100 shooting, build his trade value and move him by mid February
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#598 » by Prokorov » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:44 am

Brooklyn91 wrote:Should we be putting Kyrie on the block? Yay or nay? It’s a bit early but Kyrie has an extensive history of these shenanigans. If he keeps it up I’d be willing to see who bites. Kyrie gonna have to play eventually once pay starts getting docked. Let him get his 28/4/7 on 48/41/100 shooting, build his trade value and move him by mid February


why in the world would kyrie be on the block? he has been elite so far this year, on both ends, and has been a great teammate and great in the community.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#599 » by Brooklyn91 » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:47 am

Prokorov wrote:
Brooklyn91 wrote:Should we be putting Kyrie on the block? Yay or nay? It’s a bit early but Kyrie has an extensive history of these shenanigans. If he keeps it up I’d be willing to see who bites. Kyrie gonna have to play eventually once pay starts getting docked. Let him get his 28/4/7 on 48/41/100 shooting, build his trade value and move him by mid February


why in the world would kyrie be on the block? he has been elite so far this year, on both ends, and has been a great teammate and great in the community.


You can’t just randomly be taking breaks, diddy bopping at parties and on zoom calls in the middle of a season. I’ve always defended Kyrie and he is one of my favorite players, but his shenanigans, in a year where we are expected to compete for a total, is not healthy for us. If he keeps up the problems I would not be against him being on the trade block at all, then he can randomly take off games whenever he feels like.
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Re: Harden-watch 2020 

Post#600 » by Prokorov » Wed Jan 13, 2021 4:53 am

Brooklyn91 wrote:You can’t just randomly be taking breaks


It's not random. we just had terrorist attack on our nations capital. Kenosha police were just let off the hook in another failure of the justice system and affirmation of systemic racism. There has maybe NEVER been a series of events as bad as this in Kyrie's lifetime. I think, it is beyond reasonable for him to take absences due to personal reasons.

diddy bopping at parties


Party. Singular. For his sister. being with family in a time like this is what everyone needs. especially black men and women.

and on zoom calls in the middle of a season.


Zoom calls. really? we are worried about zoom calls? Like why in the world would that even remotely be a problem? like what is he supposed to be doing? laying alone in the dark under his bed?

I’ve always defended Kyrie and he is one of my favorite players, but his shenanigans, in a year where we are expected to compete for a total, is not healthy for us. If he keeps up the problems I would not be against him being on the trade block at all, then he can randomly take off games whenever he feels like.



Nothing random about it. Kyrie has done 1 and exactly 1 thing that justifies criticism. not wearing a mask.

a zoom call? i cant possibly shake my head enough at this. people are worried about a zoom call? jesus effing christ

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