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[Camelo Thread]**UPDATE MELO PUSHING FOR KNICKS**- Part 4

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Re: Melo's Comments Speaks Volumes 

Post#101 » by GONYK » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:16 pm

Melo to NOH is the new Lebron to LAC
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Post#102 » by towelie » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:17 pm

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Pharmcat wrote:im getting a feeling Melo is going to be going to NOH to be playing with his buddy C Paul at the deadline

they have a large expiring, young players in thornton and bayless to give up

and a defensive minded coach

things look nothing short but bleak for NY at the current time

So he wants out of small market Denver to go to even smaller market NOH, the team that CP3 most recently tried to cut loose from when they can both be in NY?

Someone help me, because I am not seeing it


Maybe because he'd get to play with another superstar in Paul?

I think Melo wants NY too, but just as we had no idea what was in LeBron's head, we really don't know what Melo's primary motivations are, or his wife's. We're all just projecting here. A year ago, I thought LeBron was the kind of guy who would never go to Miami to be a sidekick to Wade/Bosh, and would only leave Cleveland for the spotlight. I thought he was a shrewd businessman who understood the value of his name brand. Now, I realize I didn't know jack about LeBron's inner thought processes, and I'm not going to do the same for Melo. He may want NY, the city, but he may also really like the idea of playing with a superstar PG like Paul. None of us can say for sure.
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Re: Melo's Comments Speaks Volumes 

Post#103 » by Punk » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:18 pm

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-Illmatic- wrote:I think Melo ultimately ends up with the Hornets.


I see him playing with Cp3. < NO and NO.


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Re: Melo's Comments Speaks Volumes 

Post#104 » by -Illmatic- » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:19 pm

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ToHoleWithSoul wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:im getting a feeling Melo is going to be going to NOH to be playing with his buddy C Paul at the deadline

they have a large expiring, young players in thornton and bayless to give up

and a defensive minded coach

things look nothing short but bleak for NY at the current time


:roll: Yeah because his wife really wants to be in New Orleans---her career will really blow up there.

Right. Im sure her whole family that mostly lives within new york, her friends who live within new york and his parents would just love to know they are in New Orleans. :lol:

That is like saying Lebron had a good chance at going to the Clippers because they have Baron Davis, Blake Giffin and Eric Gordon.


Cmon guys. I think one thing that we can all learn from this previous summer is that city appeal and family issues don't have much to do with these players decisions. All of these arguments were used for why LeBron would never go to Miami, and obviously that didn't work out.
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Post#105 » by seren » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:19 pm

towelie wrote:
GONYK wrote:So he wants out of small market Denver to go to even smaller market NOH, the team that CP3 most recently tried to cut loose from when they can both be in NY?

Someone help me, because I am not seeing it


Maybe because he'd get to play with another superstar in Paul?

I think Melo wants NY too, but just as we had no idea what was in LeBron's head, we really don't know what Melo's primary motivations are, or his wife's. We're all just projecting here. A year ago, I thought LeBron was the kind of guy who would never go to Miami to be a sidekick to Wade/Bosh, and would only leave Cleveland for the spotlight. I thought he was a shrewd businessman who understood the value of his name brand. Now, I realize I didn't know jack about LeBron's inner thought processes, and I'm not going to do the same for Melo. He may want NY, the city, but he may also really like the idea of playing with a superstar PG like Paul. None of us can say for sure.


Actually we do. She made it clear in the summer.
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Re: Melo's Comments Speaks Volumes 

Post#106 » by GONYK » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:20 pm

towelie wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:im getting a feeling Melo is going to be going to NOH to be playing with his buddy C Paul at the deadline

they have a large expiring, young players in thornton and bayless to give up

and a defensive minded coach

things look nothing short but bleak for NY at the current time

So he wants out of small market Denver to go to even smaller market NOH, the team that CP3 most recently tried to cut loose from when they can both be in NY?

Someone help me, because I am not seeing it


Maybe because he'd get to play with another superstar in Paul?

I think Melo wants NY too, but just as we had no idea what was in LeBron's head, we really don't know what Melo's primary motivations are, or his wife's. We're all just projecting here. A year ago, I thought LeBron was the kind of guy who would never go to Miami to be a sidekick to Wade/Bosh, and would only leave Cleveland for the spotlight. I thought he was a shrewd businessman who understood the value of his name brand. Now, I realize I didn't know jack about LeBron's inner thought processes, and I'm not going to do the same for Melo. He may want NY, the city, but he may also really like the idea of playing with a superstar PG like Paul. None of us can say for sure.

True, but even Paul wanted out of NOH and when his contract expires we will have the space to pursue him. So why the pressure for Melo to join an even smaller market than the one he is in?
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Re: Melo's Comments Speaks Volumes 

Post#107 » by K_ick_God » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:20 pm

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dancing dervish wrote:Yeah thinking he likes Chicago because they have a great foundation in Rose,Boozer and Noah is stupid. Why play with Rose,Boozer and Noah when you can play with just Stoudemire---if you are Melo you have to be completely stupid to think that way.

Why play with a top 5 PG, a top 10 PF and a top 10 Center when you can play with Stoudemire.

This is the same type of stuff I've read on knick forums prior to the Lberon free agency. He is given hidden signs, he wants NY but just wants it to be dramatic----blablabla---maybe hmm no. Maybe he just wants a team he is sure he can beat the Heat with?And maybe he'd think "Hey playing with Rose,Boozer,Noah and a defensive genius in Thibodeau is better than getting my ass handed to me every year in the second round of the playoffs with a coach that couldn't spell the word defense if his life depended on it."



I'm not saying that the Bulls do not have a chance. I think they do. But this was not an attempt to say he won't play for D'Antoni or that he doesn't like D'Antoni's system, or to put the Knicks on notice, etc. All of that is false.

I think he would say yes to the Bulls and they are in the hunt. But he did call them the third best basketball city. Hmmmmmm.


One point to correct - he said Chicago was 'top 3'. It could have meant third - but thats not what he said.




Which is probably a nice way of saying "Chicago is third behind New York and LA."
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Re: Melo's Comments Speaks Volumes 

Post#108 » by Punk » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:20 pm

towelie wrote:
GONYK wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:im getting a feeling Melo is going to be going to NOH to be playing with his buddy C Paul at the deadline

they have a large expiring, young players in thornton and bayless to give up

and a defensive minded coach

things look nothing short but bleak for NY at the current time

So he wants out of small market Denver to go to even smaller market NOH, the team that CP3 most recently tried to cut loose from when they can both be in NY?

Someone help me, because I am not seeing it


Maybe because he'd get to play with another superstar in Paul?


Yeah, because he can't do that in NY too?

What's the point in playing with another superstar when your going to gut your ENTIRE roster that made the Hornets a top 3 team in the league today?

He comes here, he plays with Fields, Felton, Amare, Walker. Next year, we sign a bunch of need fillers like what Miami did with Mike Miller, Eddie House, etc.
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Re: Melo's Comments Speaks Volumes 

Post#109 » by luvher_501 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:20 pm

Melo wants to win and as long as the knicks look this bad it hurts their chances..People need to stop reading so much into comments.....
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Post#110 » by Pharmcat » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:20 pm

people still using that appeal line?

please, lebron turned down a billion dollars from NY "marketing" market

its the most overrated line to be played

CC sabathia came to NY, won a ring, i dont see him much on other than marketing subway sandwiches....this NY marketing angle is so overplayed
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Re: Melo's Comments Speaks Volumes 

Post#111 » by Magilla_Gorilla » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:20 pm

seren wrote:As of now, Chicago offers nothing. Neither New Orleans. None of the two has the max space. All these deals have to be S&Ts. If we start talking about S&T's, there are 28 other teams that can be potential destinations including Lakers.



NOH and Chicago are only being mentioned under the assumption that Melo is traded by the deadline. In a trade they can both offer a max extension.

But if Melo waits until the summer - I got it at 99% he signs in NY.
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Re: [Camelo Thread] - Part 4 

Post#112 » by NYman15 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:20 pm

I still believe melo is coming to the knicks and cp3 will be here to melo will come through trade or free agent I hope free agent but I still believe he will be here at the end of the day
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Post#113 » by -Illmatic- » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:21 pm

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seren wrote:If this is true, that means it is not about winning. Chicago, with all due respect, won zilch.


No, it just means that it's not 100% winning. Obviously he doesn't want to cut his salary in half to play with the Lakers, that **** up his lifetime earnings potential way to much to be realistic. This next contract is where Melo is going to make most of his money, and he knows that. Melo's interest right now is probably a mix between money and winning. Chicago offers great team talent and a max contract. I still think he ends up in New Orleans though.


As of now, Chicago offers nothing. Neither New Orleans. None of the two has the max space. All these deals have to be S&Ts. If we start talking about S&T's, there are 28 other teams that can be potential destinations including Lakers.


Actually the Hornets have the potential to have max cap space this summer.
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Post#114 » by dancing dervish » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:21 pm

Punk wrote:Yeah, because miami was a defensive minded team right? LOL

You guys do realize Lebron went there to play teamup with Wade, Bosh right? It had nothing to do with the system.



And you probably do realize that with Spoelstra and Riley he knew he had guys that emphasize defense?You do know that Miami was a very good defensive team last season?LOL
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Post#115 » by K_ick_God » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:21 pm

luvher_501 wrote:Melo wants to win and as long as the knicks look this bad it hurts their chances..People need to stop reading so much into comments.....




You also said that as long as the Cavs looked as good as they looked, lebron would stay.
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Post#116 » by Punk » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:22 pm

Pharmcat wrote:people still using that appeal line?

please, lebron turned down a billion dollars from NY "marketing" market

its the most overrated line to be played

:lol:

He didn't choose new york because he was a bitchass and wanted to play third fiddle with his friends. Nike even wanted him to sign here.

how overrated is that?
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Re: [Camelo Thread] - Part 4 

Post#117 » by Marty McFly » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:23 pm

GONYK wrote:Christ...are the "Melo to Chicago" people back again? Them and "JVG will be our new coach" people should start a club. Make sure to invite unicorns too.


:-? stop trying to ball us up with those people. one has **** to do with the other.
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Post#118 » by luvher_501 » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:25 pm

KnicksGod wrote:
luvher_501 wrote:Melo wants to win and as long as the knicks look this bad it hurts their chances..People need to stop reading so much into comments.....




You also said that as long as the Cavs looked as good as they looked, lebron would stay.



I never thought Lebron would go to New York...I didnt think the team was fit to win ..their pieces looked bad and the same thing applies here...If I am Melo and I say I want to win..THe knicks wouldnt be my top choice. The bulls would be...They have better pieces in place and a good young coach...the worst the knicks play the more it hurts their chances...
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Post#119 » by Punk » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:26 pm

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Punk wrote:Yeah, because miami was a defensive minded team right? LOL

You guys do realize Lebron went there to play teamup with Wade, Bosh right? It had nothing to do with the system.



And you probably do realize that with Spoelstra and Riley he knew he had guys that emphasize defense?You do know that Miami was a very good defensive team last season?LOL

Yeah, so good defensively that they got their ass kicked by boston.
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Post#120 » by -Illmatic- » Tue Nov 16, 2010 7:26 pm

Punk wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:people still using that appeal line?

please, lebron turned down a billion dollars from NY "marketing" market

its the most overrated line to be played

:lol:

He didn't choose new york because he was a bitchass and wanted to play third fiddle with his friends. Nike even wanted him to sign here.

how overrated is that?


Jesus some people are just in denial. This is not the 1920's! You don't have to play in a big market to be recognized.

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