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Grading Hornacek

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Grading Hornacek

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Re: Grading Hornacek 

Post#101 » by KnIcKsYaNkSmEtS1127 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:00 pm

WesleyExChiFan wrote:I'd give him a A so far. Takes a lot to get 15 folks working as a team. Especially when most of them haven't worked together before, and several are in their rookie year. .500 and trending up is a good place to be at this point.

I guess you completely ignored his defensive coaching ability? Up until the Atlanta game we were giving up the most points in the league? Now we're down to 27th? I mean defense is half of the game and he was down right last for the first 12 games! How is that an A? C is correct for a 7-7 team. His substitutions, rotations and in game adjustments are an A but you can't ignore what he isn't doing right.
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Re: Grading Hornacek 

Post#102 » by KP6 » Fri Nov 25, 2016 4:41 pm

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WesleyExChiFan wrote:I'd give him a A so far. Takes a lot to get 15 folks working as a team. Especially when most of them haven't worked together before, and several are in their rookie year. .500 and trending up is a good place to be at this point.

I guess you completely ignored his defensive coaching ability? Up until the Atlanta game we were giving up the most points in the league? Now we're down to 27th? I mean defense is half of the game and he was down right last for the first 12 games! How is that an A? C is correct for a 7-7 team. His substitutions, rotations and in game adjustments are an A but you can't ignore what he isn't doing right.


They can ignore it and they have. If the Knicks going on a 3-5 game losing streak? Some of this same posters saying A grade, will switch and say we should start the tank.
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Re: Grading Hornacek 

Post#103 » by stuporman » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:17 pm

What? No incomplete option? Too early to tell.
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Re: Grading Hornacek 

Post#104 » by WesleyExChiFan » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:18 pm

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KnIcKsYaNkSmEtS1127 wrote:
WesleyExChiFan wrote:I'd give him a A so far. Takes a lot to get 15 folks working as a team. Especially when most of them haven't worked together before, and several are in their rookie year. .500 and trending up is a good place to be at this point.

I guess you completely ignored his defensive coaching ability? Up until the Atlanta game we were giving up the most points in the league? Now we're down to 27th? I mean defense is half of the game and he was down right last for the first 12 games! How is that an A? C is correct for a 7-7 team. His substitutions, rotations and in game adjustments are an A but you can't ignore what he isn't doing right.


They can ignore it and they have. If the Knicks going on a 3-5 game losing streak? Some of this same posters saying A grade, will switch and say we should start the tank.

Cmon y'all. Think this team is supposed to be undefeated right now? They're trending up and the players are all bringing it defensively right now.

There's also a million moving parts on this squad. New people, new schemes, distractions since training camp, rookies in the rotation, etc.

They're .500 at thanksgiving with all these issues. That's an A, to me.

Christmas is when the NBA takes center stage in the sports world. They need to be a top 4 seed by then to keep the A rating from me.

And for the record, I've never once advocated for a tank job, ever. Take a look at the 99-04 Bulls to see where that road can easily take you.
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Re: Grading Hornacek 

Post#105 » by NoLayupRule » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:22 pm

This team has made certain major leaps already.

Specifically on the bench unit. Very impressive.

Rotations have been on point and chemistry is clicking for both units.

Time out plays have been great

And overall the defense and ball movement have gotten really solid compared to where they were.


We have a long way to go on both ends but we've come a long way already
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Post#106 » by thebuzzardman » Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:31 pm

All I can say is, minus the defense the first 10 games, it has been refreshing to see what is, at the least, a normal level of NBA coaching competence.
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Post#107 » by Iron Mantis » Fri Nov 25, 2016 6:52 pm

Didn't we do one of these "time to give ______ some actual credit" threads last year, hovering around .500 early in the season shortly before completely imploding?

Jeff gets a "progress report" at the moment, and the assessment shows that his performance as a coach is definitely on the upswing.
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Post#108 » by cayuck » Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:37 pm

The defense has looked much better the last few games. I want to see Hornacek incorporate Noah in a positive way and hopefully the team can take another step forward.
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Post#109 » by KP6 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:31 am

little defense so far tonight Vs the Hornets...... come on knicks
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Post#110 » by thebuzzardman » Sat Nov 26, 2016 1:39 am

Lowered my grade from A to B after Sasha subbed in against the Hornets
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Re: Grading Hornacek 

Post#111 » by evevale » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:16 am

I can't give Horny anything lower than a "B" because he's giving Kuz big minutes + playing him late in games. He sees potential, he knows basketball.
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Post#112 » by BodyCount » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:33 am

evevale wrote:I can't give Horny anything lower than a "B" because he's giving Kuz big minutes + playing him late in games. He sees potential, he knows basketball.


He was stuck on the bech from the start of the season! Thomas had to get hurt for him to get a chance. What if he didn't get hurt?
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Re: Grading Hornacek 

Post#113 » by K_ick_God » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:41 am

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Re: Grading Hornacek 

Post#114 » by KP6 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 3:49 am

who where the two clowns that gave a F?
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Post#115 » by 3toheadmelo » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:30 am

Changing my grade from an B to a A if we manage to win tommorow night
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Post#116 » by Knicks_Fan2 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:59 am

Dude is smart. He knows what the best lineup is but still gives guys like Noah minutes because you can't freeze them out but he also doesn't hurt the team by not playing his best lineup down the stretch.
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Post#117 » by HEZI » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:06 am

I give him a G for Genius
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Post#118 » by dreamer3kx » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:08 am

Horny has ajusted, kind of figured things out a bit, which lineups to go with and such, hes also been much more vocal on sidelines, hes a quiet dude but looks like he can get a little hot which you just have to here in NY.
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Re: Grading Hornacek 

Post#119 » by NYKMentality85 » Sat Nov 26, 2016 5:43 am

3toheadmelo wrote:Changing my grade from an B to a A if we manage to win tommorow night


Likewise.

It's still early but record wise we're only 2.0 games from an NBA top 5 record. The Kicker: There isn't a single head coach around the NBA in who's currently coaching under as much roster turnover as Hornacek himself. As a 1st year head coach (in N.Y) that alone is a difficult task.

As a 1st year coach he's got a young developing 2nd year Porzingis along with Anthony who's being surrounded by a whopping 10 separate teammates in which weren't on our roster last year. 5 rookies as well. Just think about that for a moment.

But yet we're trending upwards having won 5 of our previous 6 games (5-1). He's done one heck of a job. Just his mannerisms alone. He's poised. He's focused. He's intune. Following both the flow and momentum of the game; all while experimenting with his rotations (multiple lineups). Players are coming out of timeouts and striking from designed set plays.

There's just a certain type of fire in him. The fire he he played with as a 3rd option to not one, but two HOF legends appears to be the same type of burning desire in which we're seeing him display on the sideline as head coach. It's not about "him". This man is a players coach and most of these younger players have already either flourished or responded. Great sign.
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Re: Grading Hornacek 

Post#120 » by FreeSpiritNY » Sat Nov 26, 2016 6:56 am

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3toheadmelo wrote:Changing my grade from an B to a A if we manage to win tommorow night


Likewise.

It's still early but record wise we're only 2.0 games from an NBA top 5 record. The Kicker: There isn't a single head coach around the NBA in who's currently coaching under as much roster turnover as Hornacek himself. As a 1st year head coach (in N.Y) that alone is a difficult task.

As a 1st year coach he's got a young developing 2nd year Porzingis along with Anthony who's being surrounded by a whopping 10 separate teammates in which weren't on our roster last year. 5 rookies as well. Just think about that for a moment.

But yet we're trending upwards having won 5 of our previous 6 games (5-1). He's done one heck of a job. Just his mannerisms alone. He's poised. He's focused. He's intune. Following both the flow and momentum of the game; all while experimenting with his rotations (multiple lineups). Players are coming out of timeouts and striking from designed set plays.

There's just a certain type of fire in him. The fire he he played with as a 3rd option to not one, but two HOF legends appears to be the same type of burning desire in which we're seeing him display on the sideline as head coach. It's not about "him". This man is a players coach and most of these younger players have already either flourished or responded. Great sign.


Amen to that, this man is a real coach. You see how passionate he is. He also doesn't play players based on there salaries which omg is a reliever. Every coach we had played players based on their salaries and not on matches.

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