[2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
Moderators: mpharris36, j4remi, HerSports85, NoLayupRule, GONYK, Jeff Van Gully, dakomish23, Deeeez Knicks
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- 
               Thugger HBC
 - Retired Mod

 - Posts: 49,679
 - And1: 18,760
 - Joined: Jan 14, 2011
 - Location: Defense+efficient offense=titles...what do you have?
 - 
                  
                   
                   
                   
                                     
                
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
I do think we can take on Parsons contract to get that 4th pick, but it would be tough to part with the 9th pick to do so. If that was the sweetener, a future pick would to come our way. Not too many teams would do it, that parsons contract is a cap killer.
            
                                    
                                    R. I. P. Mamba 8/23/78 - 1/26/20
Gone, but will never be forgotten
                        Gone, but will never be forgotten
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- nykgeneralmanager
 - Forum Mod

 - Posts: 14,172
 - And1: 306
 - Joined: Apr 10, 2001
 
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
Thugger HBC wrote:I do think we can take on Parsons contract to get that 4th pick, but it would be tough to part with the 9th pick to do so. If that was the sweetener, a future pick would to come our way. Not too many teams would do it, that parsons contract is a cap killer.
The #9 pick is guaranteed to be in any deal, even taking Parsons back. The question then becomes do the Knicks have to give up a 2019 pick (protected) as well?
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- 
               Juco24
 - Head Coach
 - Posts: 6,227
 - And1: 5,812
 - Joined: Feb 12, 2013
 
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
One thing is for certain but I think we can all agree on. Today is going to be an interesting day with a lot of refreshing going on. Lol
            
                                    
                                    
                        Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- stuporman
 - RealGM
 - Posts: 32,028
 - And1: 21,024
 - Joined: Nov 27, 2005
 - Location: optimistic skeptical realist
 
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
nykgeneralmanager wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:I do think we can take on Parsons contract to get that 4th pick, but it would be tough to part with the 9th pick to do so. If that was the sweetener, a future pick would to come our way. Not too many teams would do it, that parsons contract is a cap killer.
The #9 pick is guaranteed to be in any deal, even taking Parsons back. The question then becomes do the Knicks have to give up a 2019 pick (protected) as well?
Who is giving them a top ten pick and taking back that contract? Who? So why bid against yourself?
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right 
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
?
Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
                        ...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
?Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- stuporman
 - RealGM
 - Posts: 32,028
 - And1: 21,024
 - Joined: Nov 27, 2005
 - Location: optimistic skeptical realist
 
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
Thugger HBC wrote:I do think we can take on Parsons contract to get that 4th pick, but it would be tough to part with the 9th pick to do so. If that was the sweetener, a future pick would to come our way. Not too many teams would do it, that parsons contract is a cap killer.
I don't think there is more than one other team who would take that contract and then do they have a top ten pick to swap? The Knicks might be poised to get the pick swap deal because they are 'stupid' enough to take on that money and it's the best offer Griz will get for it.
If you'd rather see your team fail so you can be right 
...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
?
Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
                        ...you are a fan of your opinion not the team.
?Knowledge is just information stuffed into a mental bag
Wisdom is knowing what to pull out of the bag to do the job
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- 
               ChaosHamster
 - Lead Assistant
 - Posts: 5,274
 - And1: 3,864
 - Joined: Oct 07, 2015
 - 
                  
                                                       
                                                     
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
Man, I hope Kings won't pass on Luka. Kings fans are so hyped right now. Would feel bad for them. ;(
            
                                    
                                    
                        Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- Reign23
 - RealGM
 - Posts: 11,729
 - And1: 12,527
 - Joined: Dec 29, 2014
 - Location: Germany.
 - 
                  
                                                                         
                                   
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
the trade ideas for #4 in here are so crazy in favor of ny, half of the board gon be crying if a real trade pops up.
            
                                    
                                    formerly known as knickst4pe
                        Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- DOT
 - Retired Mod

 - Posts: 31,489
 - And1: 61,268
 - Joined: Nov 25, 2016
 - 
                  
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
stuporman wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:I do think we can take on Parsons contract to get that 4th pick, but it would be tough to part with the 9th pick to do so. If that was the sweetener, a future pick would to come our way. Not too many teams would do it, that parsons contract is a cap killer.
I don't think there is more than one other team who would take that contract and then do they have a top ten pick to swap? The Knicks might be poised to get the pick swap deal because they are 'stupid' enough to take on that money and it's the best offer Griz will get for it.
https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/dallas-mavericks/mavericks/2018/06/20/report-mavs-one-seven-teams-talking-grizzlies-trade-no-4-pick-chandler-parsons
Mavs one of seven teams talking to Grizzlies about trade for No. 4 pick, Chandler Parsons
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/23858201/memphis-grizzlies-discuss-trading-no-4-pick-nba-draft
Dallas Mavericks, Orlando Magic, Chicago Bulls, New York Knicks, Denver Nuggets, Boston Celtics and LA Clippers have shown varying degrees of interest in a deal
Memphis might be able to trade back to No. 6 (owned by Orlando) or No. 7 (owned by Chicago) on draft night.
BaF Lakers:
Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
                        Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- 
               ChaosHamster
 - Lead Assistant
 - Posts: 5,274
 - And1: 3,864
 - Joined: Oct 07, 2015
 - 
                  
                                                       
                                                     
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
Reign23 wrote:the trade ideas for #4 in here are so crazy in favor of ny, half of the board gon be crying if a real trade pops up.
Its gonna be KP and Lee for 4th and Parsons.
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- Reign23
 - RealGM
 - Posts: 11,729
 - And1: 12,527
 - Joined: Dec 29, 2014
 - Location: Germany.
 - 
                  
                                                                         
                                   
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
ChaosHamster wrote:Reign23 wrote:the trade ideas for #4 in here are so crazy in favor of ny, half of the board gon be crying if a real trade pops up.
Its gonna be KP and Lee for 4th and Parsons.
nah I don't think so. 4 + parsons
for
#9 + lee + lance + x
or
#9 + timmy + burke + x
is the framework. depends on what the grizz are looking for. either get off as much salary as possible or get as good as possible with the trade. the question mark obv is the asset the knicks have to add.
formerly known as knickst4pe
                        Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- WajaBawl
 - Starter
 - Posts: 2,012
 - And1: 2,250
 - Joined: Jul 05, 2015
 - 
                  
                                                                                                           
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
stuporman wrote:nykgeneralmanager wrote:Thugger HBC wrote:I do think we can take on Parsons contract to get that 4th pick, but it would be tough to part with the 9th pick to do so. If that was the sweetener, a future pick would to come our way. Not too many teams would do it, that parsons contract is a cap killer.
The #9 pick is guaranteed to be in any deal, even taking Parsons back. The question then becomes do the Knicks have to give up a 2019 pick (protected) as well?
Who is giving them a top ten pick and taking back that contract? Who? So why bid against yourself?
They've explicitly stated that they are looking to trade down, not out of the draft. CHI, ORL, DAL all can beat whatever it is we're offering.
I see us staying put at 9 & 36. Y'all just have to accept reality instead of coming up with these ridiculous trade scenarios.
RealGM's Scandinavian Correspondent
                        Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- DOT
 - Retired Mod

 - Posts: 31,489
 - And1: 61,268
 - Joined: Nov 25, 2016
 - 
                  
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36

Hours to go
BaF Lakers:
Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
                        Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- Triple C
 - Knicks Forum The Good News
 - Posts: 7,524
 - And1: 16,885
 - Joined: Feb 28, 2015
 - Location: Sunnydale
 - 
                  
                                     
                   
                                                     
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- 
               semjazy
 - Junior
 - Posts: 312
 - And1: 169
 - Joined: Aug 11, 2014
 - Location: Silesia
 - 
                  
                                                       
                   
                                   
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
Reign23 wrote:ChaosHamster wrote:Reign23 wrote:the trade ideas for #4 in here are so crazy in favor of ny, half of the board gon be crying if a real trade pops up.
Its gonna be KP and Lee for 4th and Parsons.
nah I don't think so. 4 + parsons
for
#9 + lee + lance + x
or
#9 + timmy + burke + x
is the framework. depends on what the grizz are looking for. either get off as much salary as possible or get as good as possible with the trade. the question mark obv is the asset the knicks have to add.
Why Grizzlies would take either Lee + Lance or Timmy if whole point of them trading that pick is to open up cap space? I think that we're looking to unload them, so we can absorb Parsons straight away.
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- spree8
 - RealGM
 - Posts: 16,435
 - And1: 9,099
 - Joined: Jun 05, 2001
 - 
                  
                   
                   
                                                                       
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
ChaosHamster wrote:Its gonna be KP and Lee for 4th and Parsons.
ChaosHamster wrote:Man, I hope Kings won't pass on Luka. Kings fans are so hyped right now. Would feel bad for them. ;(
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- 
               ChaosHamster
 - Lead Assistant
 - Posts: 5,274
 - And1: 3,864
 - Joined: Oct 07, 2015
 - 
                  
                                                       
                                                     
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
semjazy wrote:Reign23 wrote:ChaosHamster wrote:
Its gonna be KP and Lee for 4th and Parsons.
nah I don't think so. 4 + parsons
for
#9 + lee + lance + x
or
#9 + timmy + burke + x
is the framework. depends on what the grizz are looking for. either get off as much salary as possible or get as good as possible with the trade. the question mark obv is the asset the knicks have to add.
Why Grizzlies would take either Lee + Lance or Timmy if whole point of them trading that pick is to open up cap space? I think that we're looking to unload them, so we can absorb Parsons straight away.
Em, if the plan is to free capspace to sign some one like Lee, then its plausible.
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- DOT
 - Retired Mod

 - Posts: 31,489
 - And1: 61,268
 - Joined: Nov 25, 2016
 - 
                  
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
I was talking to my dad (who doesn't really understand basketball) yesterday, and I brought up the point that it's kinda weird that staying in school is seen as a negative for basketball players
I kinda get it if it's a situation like Miles Bridges, who came back for another year but didn't really improve that much, but in the case of Mikal, a guy who has markedly improved every single year, I don't understand
Like, I get the whole "potential" argument, I'm on team Frank after all, but we shouldn't dismiss a player that's proven to grow like Mikal. It's like having someone else develop Frank for 3 years before we draft him, just cause he's older doesn't mean his potential has gone down, it means we have less work to do developing him
I don't know, I just really like Mikal at 9 and I think he has a higher ceiling on offense than some of y'all give him credit for, and is an excellent defender to boot
            
                                    
                                    I kinda get it if it's a situation like Miles Bridges, who came back for another year but didn't really improve that much, but in the case of Mikal, a guy who has markedly improved every single year, I don't understand
Like, I get the whole "potential" argument, I'm on team Frank after all, but we shouldn't dismiss a player that's proven to grow like Mikal. It's like having someone else develop Frank for 3 years before we draft him, just cause he's older doesn't mean his potential has gone down, it means we have less work to do developing him
I don't know, I just really like Mikal at 9 and I think he has a higher ceiling on offense than some of y'all give him credit for, and is an excellent defender to boot
BaF Lakers:
Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
                        Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- DOT
 - Retired Mod

 - Posts: 31,489
 - And1: 61,268
 - Joined: Nov 25, 2016
 - 
                  
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
ChaosHamster wrote:semjazy wrote:Reign23 wrote:
nah I don't think so. 4 + parsons
for
#9 + lee + lance + x
or
#9 + timmy + burke + x
is the framework. depends on what the grizz are looking for. either get off as much salary as possible or get as good as possible with the trade. the question mark obv is the asset the knicks have to add.
Why Grizzlies would take either Lee + Lance or Timmy if whole point of them trading that pick is to open up cap space? I think that we're looking to unload them, so we can absorb Parsons straight away.
Em, if the plan is to free capspace to sign some one like Lee, then its plausible.
I'd say the goal for Memphis isn't really to free up cap space to sign players, I think they want to convert Parson's salary into players that can actually play on the court (even if they're not really that good), and get low enough below the cap so that they don't get into the tax re-signing Tyreke Evans
BaF Lakers:
Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
                        Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- King of Canada
 - Retired Mod

 - Posts: 17,265
 - And1: 13,011
 - Joined: Nov 03, 2005
 - Location: Halifax, Nova Scotia
 - 
                  
                                                                                                           
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
ChaosHamster wrote:Man, I hope Kings won't pass on Luka. Kings fans are so hyped right now. Would feel bad for them. ;(
I feel bad for Luka
BAF Pacers
F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
                        F. Campazzo/ J. Clarkson/ K. Lewis Jr
D. Mitchell/ J. Richardson/S. Merrill
Luka/Melo
Zion/Gay/Gabriel
KAT/Kabengele
F. Mason, Jontay, J. Harris
RIP mags
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
- DOT
 - Retired Mod

 - Posts: 31,489
 - And1: 61,268
 - Joined: Nov 25, 2016
 - 
                  
                   
                   
                   
                   
                   
                
Re: [2018] - DRAFT NIGHT THREAD! Currently #9, #36
King of Canada wrote:ChaosHamster wrote:Man, I hope Kings won't pass on Luka. Kings fans are so hyped right now. Would feel bad for them. ;(
I feel bad for Luka
He'll always have your BAF team
BaF Lakers:
Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.
                        Nikola Topic/Kasparas Jakucionis
VJ Edgecombe/Jrue Holiday
Shaedon Sharpe/Cedric Coward
Kyle Filipowski/Collin Murray-Boyles
Alex Sarr/Clint Capela
Bench: Malcolm Brogdon/Hansen Yang/Rocco Zikarsky/RJ Luis Jr.














