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Pick 36: Knicks Draft Mitchell Robinson - Pg 97-8 - Block Ness Monster catching on

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Post#101 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:43 am

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robillionaire wrote:the next question was even better
"what have the guys here told you about your role for the team what do they wanna see you do"
"uh see me like offensively and defensively"


Not trying to hate on the kid but sometimes the difference is between the ears. I mean he was a top recruit in the conversation with Bamba, Ayton, Carter, Bagley but he made poor decisions


John Starks was saying "Paper or Plastic" at the end of a grocery checkout line the year before he played for the Knicks
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Post#102 » by robillionaire » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:45 am

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knickstape4ever wrote:
robillionaire wrote:the next question was even better
"what have the guys here told you about your role for the team what do they wanna see you do"
"uh see me like offensively and defensively"


Not trying to hate on the kid but sometimes the difference is between the ears. I mean he was a top recruit in the conversation with Bamba, Ayton, Carter, Bagley but he made poor decisions


John Starks was saying "Paper or Plastic" at the end of a grocery checkout line the year before he played for the Knicks


I didn't want to be the one to make that comparison but it's out there now

So we can expect this guy to be a knicks legend
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Post#103 » by stuporman » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:47 am

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robillionaire wrote:he's kinda weird lol



I could care less about him being socially awkward as long as his priorities are right.

The key takeaway is when asked what he needed to work on he didn't have to think about it since he had already sorted that out: strength and footwork


I noticed that, too. Usually young players respond with some generic things or about a more flashy 'glory' skill but he's talking about real foundational improvements.Good to hear that, sounds like a hard worker if he is focused on that type of detail on such an exciting night getting drafted.
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Post#104 » by knickstape4ever » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:47 am

I hope he balls cuz he's really f'n talented
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Clyde_Style wrote:
knickstape4ever wrote:
Not trying to hate on the kid but sometimes the difference is between the ears. I mean he was a top recruit in the conversation with Bamba, Ayton, Carter, Bagley but he made poor decisions


John Starks was saying "Paper or Plastic" at the end of a grocery checkout line the year before he played for the Knicks


I didn't want to be the one to make that comparison but it's out there now

So we can expect this guy to be a knicks legend


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Post#106 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:50 am

Kid is a late bloomer, so he absolutely needed to go to a rebuilding team with a good development program. Could be a five year trajectory if he pans out because of the potential talent and late start.
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Post#107 » by knickstape4ever » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:52 am

Clyde_Style wrote:Kid is a late bloomer, so he absolutely needed to go to a rebuilding team with a good development program. Could be a five year trajectory if he pans out because of the potential talent and late start.


I hope for his own sake that NY is a good place for him because the media here is tough and he doesn't seem to be too comfortable with the media. You wonder if he may be better off in a smaller market
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Post#108 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:57 am

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robillionaire wrote:he's kinda weird lol



I could care less about him being socially awkward as long as his priorities are right.

The key takeaway is when asked what he needed to work on he didn't have to think about it since he had already sorted that out: strength and footwork

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Post#109 » by fatalogic » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:58 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Kid is a late bloomer, so he absolutely needed to go to a rebuilding team with a good development program. Could be a five year trajectory if he pans out because of the potential talent and late start.


I hope for his own sake that NY is a good place for him because the media here is tough and he doesn't seem to be too comfortable with the media. You wonder if he may be better off in a smaller market

He a 2nd rounder the media won't be coming for him unless he really balls out. If he doesn't right away then he can just chill and grow in the background. Frank and Knox will be taking most of the heat.
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Post#110 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:58 am

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robillionaire wrote:he's kinda weird lol



I could care less about him being socially awkward as long as his priorities are right.

The key takeaway is when asked what he needed to work on he didn't have to think about it since he had already sorted that out: strength and footwork


I noticed that, too. Usually young players respond with some generic things or about a more flashy 'glory' skill but he's talking about real foundational improvements.Good to hear that, sounds like a hard worker if he is focused on that type of detail on such an exciting night getting drafted.


That was encouraging. The video I watched tonight shows he has a very natural stroke for his size so that probably speaks to his talent more than the cool dunks. But he seems to already understand he will need better footwork and more strength to create space for his shots or board well in traffic. A project with talent is good if they understand they have to assemble the parts of the game over time to achieve the proper alchemy. So he's probably not slow like some are so quick to declare, just a socially awkward kid. He's still very much a kid so patience is key.

It's also important to consider how much catch-up a guy like this has to do if he didn't take ball seriously until the 10th grade. As raw as some think Knox may be, that kid was groomed for this. Mitchell is more like the mutt rescued from the pound with no pedigree. He's lucky to have made it to the NBA at all considering how few advantages he probably had. People need to have a little more compassion sometimes. He might turn out to be something.
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Post#111 » by BLACKFEET 2010 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 5:59 am

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Clyde_Style wrote:Kid is a late bloomer, so he absolutely needed to go to a rebuilding team with a good development program. Could be a five year trajectory if he pans out because of the potential talent and late start.


I hope for his own sake that NY is a good place for him because the media here is tough and he doesn't seem to be too comfortable with the media. You wonder if he may be better off in a smaller market

GOTTA keep a good locker room around him and Knox. KP and Frank were a different kinda mature for their ages, we're spoiled by that.
This kid, like all kids, needs guidance. Badly.
We hired a gajillion coaches this spring so hopefully development on and off the court is the priority.
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Post#112 » by Clyde_Style » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:02 am

knickstape4ever wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:Kid is a late bloomer, so he absolutely needed to go to a rebuilding team with a good development program. Could be a five year trajectory if he pans out because of the potential talent and late start.


I hope for his own sake that NY is a good place for him because the media here is tough and he doesn't seem to be too comfortable with the media. You wonder if he may be better off in a smaller market


Fans tend to overrate the media's influence on players anyway. The dominant influence on these guy's lives, especially the first few years, is the culture of the franchise they are drafted into, the relationships they have with their teammates and the coaching staff, the vibe in the locker room. Kahwi Leonard grew as a player in SA not because it was out of the limelight compared to NY or LA, but because it was a program that nurtured talent. It really matters far less than you think unless the player is a diva in which case they'll always be worried about what the gossip columnists masquerading as sports writers say about them.
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Post#113 » by 2010 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:10 am

He is everything Willy was not.
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Post#114 » by 2010 » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:12 am

Socially he is gonna need to come out of his she'll tho. Especially in NYC with our media. They will be looking to eat him alive with how shy he is. It's no wonder either. His family seemed very nonexpressive or affectionate. Not even on his draft night.
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Post#115 » by earthmansurfer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:16 am

robillionaire wrote:he's kinda weird lol



He comes across as a little aloof maybe, shy, kind of innocent, not high IQ, but not a dummy. More like a simple cat with loads of talent. I like having a weirdish guy on the team. :wink:
We have the right coach. This kid can actually be a VERY special player.
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Post#116 » by BBALLER4FR » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:19 am

Gotta hope the "Bright Lights Big City" doesn't interfere as well. Be a shame if poor influences and temptations derail him from what appears to be a tremendous skillset.
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Post#117 » by earthmansurfer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:27 am

knickstape4ever wrote:;t=94s

at the 1:23 mark; his response to when asked what type of player he is :lol:


Wow, he started playing in the 10th grade!!!
The kid is a kid. Long way to go mentally, and I don‘t mean that negatively. He has a nice naievity or innocense about him.
I can see why people might think he is not an IQ guy, but he really seems like a kid inside. But he mentions commitment and hard work, coming from a large and poor family.
We are swinging for the fences here. Great great pick with lotto upside.
I don‘t think he has had problems with the law. I just hope the press is easy on him. Excited about his kid.

Best of luck to you Mitchell!!!
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Post#118 » by earthmansurfer » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:33 am

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stuporman wrote:
Clyde_Style wrote:
I could care less about him being socially awkward as long as his priorities are right.

The key takeaway is when asked what he needed to work on he didn't have to think about it since he had already sorted that out: strength and footwork


I noticed that, too. Usually young players respond with some generic things or about a more flashy 'glory' skill but he's talking about real foundational improvements.Good to hear that, sounds like a hard worker if he is focused on that type of detail on such an exciting night getting drafted.


That was encouraging. The video I watched tonight shows he has a very natural stroke for his size so that probably speaks to his talent more than the cool dunks. But he seems to already understand he will need better footwork and more strength to create space for his shots or board well in traffic. A project with talent is good if they understand they have to assemble the parts of the game over time to achieve the proper alchemy. So he's probably not slow like some are so quick to declare, just a socially awkward kid. He's still very much a kid so patience is key.

It's also important to consider how much catch-up a guy like this has to do if he didn't take ball seriously until the 10th grade. As raw as some think Knox may be, that kid was groomed for this. Mitchell is more like the mutt rescued from the pound with no pedigree. He's lucky to have made it to the NBA at all considering how few advantages he probably had. People need to have a little more compassion sometimes. He might turn out to be something.


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Post#119 » by KnicksGadfly » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:36 am

I think we gotta get a vet this summer. Someone who can teach defense and how to be a pro but also get these kids' backs.
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Post#120 » by stuporman » Fri Jun 22, 2018 6:51 am

knicksh20b wrote:I think we gotta get a vet this summer. Someone who can teach defense and how to be a pro but also get these kids' backs.


The Knicks have one and now with a coach who isn't a tool he will be in the mix again so be the type of guy who can mentor on the defensive side of the ball.
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